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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 07:12 AM
Part of the new law designating marrige to be between a man and a woman passed the other day, through one of the barriers to make it a constitutional amendment... Please all begin screaming in rage now....

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 07:48 AM
AAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!! Was that loud enough?

I'm sorry that the right wing christians seem to be getting their way. I thought the reason they wanted to get married were the benifits anyway? Maybe those benifits could be added to the "partnership" thing. One thing I know is that I've seen homosexuals in more healthier relationships than hetero's.....well this sucks......but look on the bright side....their are bad things that come with marriage too, like devorce, alimony, monogomy, figuring out which one of you gets the kids, monogomy, spliting up the property, monogomy, finding new freinds because ur old ones took her/his side.

Just kidding about monogomy.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 09:24 AM
Yeah, you ought to know by now that marriage does not necessarily include monogamy...

*screaming in rage*

It's unfair every way you look at it. If it goes through, it will also make it that much harder to lobby for group marriages, so it screws the poly people too.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 09:37 AM
Yeah, I haven't heard one single, rational explanation why marriage should be limited to hetero only...

It seems like of all issues, this attacts closed-minded people the most...

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 12:13 PM
I wanna stab someone with a brick

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 01:52 PM
And he'll do it too....I'm not kidding....no one will escape his wrath!!!

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 03:14 PM
I'm all in favor of polygamy myself.

I guess if this gay marriage ban is passed, all isn't lost yet. If enough people can push for polygamous marriages, there'd be room for all sorts of combos within the unions.

Meanwhile, a double upraised middle finger, plus a few other obscene gestures towards Washington D.C. Fuckers.

What does it matter who you love, as long as you aren't raping little kids or farm animals?

I wish the politicians would let the people decide, instead of trying to fuck everyone over. They are not the voice of the people. The people who did vote voted for the least crooked person they could find...and even then, it probably didn't make a damned bit of difference anyway.

Is anyone actually lobbying against this moronic advance in limiting civil rights?

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 03:18 PM
I don't think the state should be getting involved.

I don't think there is any reason why Christians should object to gay marriage.

I don't think that you can force a group (ie; Christians) to accept something they don't want to, though.

Even if it was made legal, it wouldn't change people's opinions. They'd call it "wrong", when what's actually at fault is their own view of things.

Making gay marriage illegal is adding to this problem, sending the message that the hate and prejudice is acceptable... even "right".

My thoughts on the issue are complicated I guess.

I find it offensive that people can be so bigotted. I think gay marriage should be legal. I just think that there would always be people who refused to accept it, or acknowledge it as marriage.

Passing a law doesn't make something morally right or wrong, it just shows what the people in power think about it.

I wish the people in power were not such arseholes.

The UK, and Swansea (where I live) in particular are doing quite well on the gay marriage front. Gay couples can have civil unions, where they get the full benefits that a married couple would. The only thing different is the name of the ceremony.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 03:49 PM
This makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY.

Their "LOGIC" *scream* is that it's unnatural for a relationship to exist where children CAN NOT BE PRODUCED. OKAY THEN ASSWIPES THEN WHY DO YOU ALLOW THE ELDERLY POST MENOPAUSAL WOMEN TO MARRY?! WHY DO YOU ALLOW SERILE COUPLES OR A PERSON WHO IS STERILE TO MARRY A FERTILE PERSON?! HOW ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE *NO INTENTION* OF EVER HAVING KIDS?! THEN OUTLAW BIRTH CONTROL, TUBALIGATIONS, VASECTOMIES, ALL THAT SHIT TOO. Or HOW ABOUT every time a woman gets pregnant and miscarries during the first month or so before she even KNOWS she's pregnant (which happens to about 90% of women when either not careful or TRYING to have kids) WE THROW HER IN JAIL FOR BREAKING THE LAW BY NOT PRODUCING A BABY? Oh, I"m sorry, a miscarriage is GOD"S MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT "I can't control my life someone do it for me because I'm a FUCKING PUSSY" FUCKING WILL.

*gasp*

Sooooo in other words, they're telling us, these old, asinine, religious text masterbating REEETARDS, that EVERY TIME THEY FUCK THEIR WIFE THEY"RE INTENDING TO MAKE A FUCKING BABY?! OOOOOHHHHH....I'm sorry, that's called "family planning".

I know that not only in portland, or, but most recently in Seattle, Wa, the courthouse is "breaking the law" and issuing same sex marriage certificates for washington state.

If a city near you is doing this, and if you're in a good, stable, happy same sex relationship, GO STOMP YOUR FOOT AND MAKE A FUCKING STAND. CLAIM YOUR RIGHT WHILE SOMEONE'S WILLING TO STAND UP FOR YOU. MAKE A FUCKING MOVEMENT AND BLOW THESE IDIOT "FAMILY VALUES" MOTHERFUCKERS OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER.

And you know what, all those wailing and lamenting motherfuckers can complain about how wrong it is ALL THEY WANT, till they're blue in the face, till their eternal hippie makes his final grand appearance and all that shit, but they can fucking DEAL WITH THE FACT THEY CAN"T RUN ANYONE"S LIFE ANY LONGER.
YOUR RULES DON"T APPLY TO ANYONE BUT YOU.

*gasp* beejees I feel so much better now....*gasp*

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 06:38 PM
I do not like what was getting done with gay marriage...and I know damn well why Bush did it. He did it as a political move to get people to like him again. People are not happy with him, he's trying really damn hard to get re-elected. If you want to go to the extreme conspiracy theories, he did it to take people's mind off the issues. Unfortunately, people are biting it too.

I think they should legalize Gay Marriages...if they can't do that, then they need to just leave it alone. We have better things to worry about than what one's genitals are when they love someone. Geez...

Granted, if people want to scream and not like gays, they have that right...as long as they don't take away gay rights over it. I think it's wrong to call them close-minded for the fact that they do not share our views (not saying people are doing it, just pointing it out). We're [supposedly] entitled to our opinions.

Churches shouldn't be forced to marry people that they find disgusting, but I think that courts should at least be able to...does separation of Church and State mean anything anymore? Oh, let me rephrase that in the language that my theocratic brothers understand: "Render, therefore, to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. (Luke, 20:25)"



[Edited on 3/9/2004 by Anya]

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 06:55 PM
That makes alot of sense to me...marriage is a religious ritual....and I do think the church has a right to turn a way any groups of people who don't meat certain critiria...but when it comes to state and government I believe the state should give equal rights to gays....they could do what they always do.....call it by a different name (instead of marriage) and give them the same benefits..that sounds like a fair compromise....and if the church won't partnership them then the state should.

You're absolutely right about the prez trying to get back into the peoples good graces (by picking on a minority no less).....has anyone noticed that polititions have been on the fence when it comes to this issue.....why now has this become a black and white decision? Where's the grey area gone all of a sudden? Seems to me like he's saying, "hey don't look over there, where 2 soldiors (american) die every day. Instead look at this, same sex marriages must be stopped". Yes we're buying into it. Then again we bought into a week dedicated to Miss Jacksons' exposed breast.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 07:14 PM
I'm wondering if the next step is for divorce to be made illegal. Then the way would be paved for religious freedom to get struck down. The "wise" *choking sound* ones have already made it clear that they don't like abortion or gay marriage, so the train ride is already set in motion. I just hope enough liberals end up in congress to derail it in time to prevent all our freedoms from disappearing.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 09:01 PM
Poly marriages would present a lot of interesting legal questions, especially in the areas of property ownership and child custody.

That may well fit into the “articles I’d like to see” category. If not from personal experience, just how one in theory would handle the legal aspects of such an arrangement.

And then, since even poly relationships do fail, how would you deal with a poly divorce? That would be a nasty one for the courts, just judging by how messy divorce between 2 people can get.

Not that I’m not all for it, because I am. But for poly marriage to become legal would almost require the complete restructuring of society in many ways.

"Geniuses and supergeniuses always make their own rules on sex as on everything else; they do not accept the monkey customs of their lessers." -Heinlein

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 11:57 PM
4 words: Canada here I come. (well hopefuly soon)

Fine so be it! My (so called elected) leaders, and fellow citizens think same sex marrige is wrong; then I have little recourse but to move on. My country turns it back on me (and others) then I will give the same to them. GAHHH!!! What the HELL is going on in side there heads!

 

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  posted on 9/3/2004 at 05:30 AM
I'm all for outlawing homosexual marriage as long as heterosexual marriage gets equal treatment. I think the idea of state-sanctioned relationships is a little mediaeval, anyway. It's hard for me to imagine anyone in this day and age that would still need that kind of validation if they hadn't wrapped up people's taxes and insurance benefits into the snare.

~M.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2004 at 09:25 AM
Mono: Leave it to you to come up with a solution nobody ever thought of before (or at least nobody I know).

DC: Don't leave! That'd be one less even-tempered good person in this country! We're already swimming in nuts right now, don't tip the balance in their favor!

Bettie: I love it when you're angry...

 

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  posted on 9/3/2004 at 12:15 PM
Those DC fuckers are such faggits!

 

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  posted on 9/3/2004 at 02:50 PM
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It is my opinion that the government is against gay or poly marriages because they would mean less tax revenues due to all the people who are legally single no matter how stable or meaningful their current non-sanctioned relationship is.


Man, I'm married and we *still* ended up owing those bastards. And if we filed married seperately, it would be even worse. I'm not really sold on the theory that you get a huge tax break if you're married. Especially if you don't have kids.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2004 at 06:17 PM
I think it's all about how many dependents you have.

(SO....on you're mark....get set....ready.....GO....and start making babies)

 

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  posted on 9/3/2004 at 07:42 PM
i can speak from personal experience that it costs much more to raise them than you'll ever get back in tax refunds. Even with the child tax-credit.

 

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