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Author: Subject: The new "Trend"

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  posted on 27/3/2003 at 10:30 AM
What's really being pissing me off recentlly is now that the norm has gone from preps to emo punks and wiggers. People are starting to hate preps because everyone else does and are now following the latest trend. It's bands like "Simple Plan", "New found Glory"
"Not by choice" Who we have to blame....and of course the ever popular Avril Laugvine. They are an abomination to the name "Punk", they go against everything punks stand for and their lyrics sounds the same.."Oh poor me, my life is hell." FOR GOD'S SAKE WHY CAN'T THEY ISTEN TO SOME FUCKING GOOD MUSIC???!! I'm not a punk myself, nor do I define myself as "gothic" yet I wear black etc. It's just annoying the hell out of me. Fucking trendies....they can all take their pop emo punk shit and shove it up their asses. They aren't different, they're just fucking idiots. I think I'm just going to go and bang my head against a wall casstet:...DOH!

 

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  posted on 27/3/2003 at 10:41 AM
So what music do you listen too??? Just curious.....

 

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  posted on 27/3/2003 at 12:13 PM
Its the same in my town too over here in England, as well as many others. Fashions change, and the majority follows. At least you can take comfort in knowing that in a couple of seasons time, it will change again, and then so will the people you look down on. In the meantime, make the most of laughing at others and being able to say you have a good reason to! Besides, it means there's a chance of finding more semi - decent clothing around. You've got to look on the bright side
Meanwhile, I shall be working out how to get a little pic underneath my username, dammit.

 

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  posted on 27/3/2003 at 01:12 PM
Just to throw a bit of random history about here, originally the "preps" or "preppies" were Prep school kids, as going to prep school to 'prep'are them for yale or harvard or oxford. They were the sell-outs, they represented the diametrically opposed view from that of the punks which was rebellion against the system.

Now Emo, as far as i can tell is the movement that sprung up from people tired of saying "Yeah, I'm kinda gothic-Mod" which is really sad considering the whole mod bit was just a well dressed synthesis of Punk and Goth, or so they said. Goth's origins in punk aside they may be right, it's all a personal choice anyway. But to wrap up my original statement, all of these sub/counter-cultures spring from Punk, which hated the Prep's more than it hated any of it's sibling/child/peer cultures and with good reason in terms of politics. So if you are surrounding yourself with only the couter-culture, and you are listening to the bands who were spawned by the bands who listened to...well, basically Siouxsie, the Ramones, and a few others. Then you are going to hear the party line.

It's not new to hate that which your leaders hate. It's not even new to hate that which everyone else thinks is cool. Unless you have the mental and emotional capacity to reason and look at the facts for yourself, you will be a sheep led by whatever leader or movement you choose to follow.

In the case of hating the newest-latest-coolest, it's not an original thought, it's especially unoriginal if you decide to hate 'it' and then find your rationalization. In the case of the Punks and the Preps, it was "we hate their politics" and "but I have never met one of them (of preferred gender) that I wouldn't sleep with" remember that when you try to hate individually. Remember that unlike the racist movement that hates individuals because of their origins, our progenitors and we the new generations should strive to hate a movement but know the people. There is no way we will like or hate all of them, but it's all about the individual when it comes to dealing with reality.

 

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  posted on 27/3/2003 at 02:17 PM
You got a point, but the thing is if you keep pointing out what is unoriginal, then that as well is unoriginal. Nothing in our world is original, the people that say they are original are the most unoriginal because they are denying what is the truth. Humans copy what they see around them and contribute it to their lifestyle, it's just they way we are. But people who want to follow society's little backwards ways are just sickening. GAH!
 

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  posted on 27/3/2003 at 03:24 PM
Yada yada yada. Music defines life this, music defines life that... whine whine whine. SHUT UP! Listen to Simon an Garfuknel and stopw snivelling.
 

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  posted on 27/3/2003 at 03:44 PM
Wow, its been a while since we've seen you, Abbadon. Things hangin' alright?

Anyway... I'm just pissed about the guys who think they're 'all that', irreguardless of their chosen lifestyle. I suppose excessive pride is my pet peeve, then. Along with all those others...

Oui...

But yeah. Like Abbadon said... Just put on some music and forget about the world's troubles... Be mellow...

 

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  posted on 28/3/2003 at 10:24 AM
You know what? Music defines the aspects of life as seen by one or two people. The trends with music start when other people relate to that feeling. It's not necessarily everyones view point and thats why music, in its own, is beautiful. It is an embodiment of diversity.
As for the punks and goths and preps and all the other social groups or labels out there, its all just a state of mind. YOU are what you feel you are and fuck what anyone else thinks about it, as far as Im concerned, its none of their goddamn business how I think of myself or what I would want to be called. Clothing does not define who a person is, their mentality towards life does. Cloths are just that, cloths. They aren't your mind, you skin, your thoughts, they're sewn together cotton, or whatever it happens to be mde of, that keeps us from running around completely naked. I don't see what the big deal is.
Narrow mindedness is a bitch.

 

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  posted on 30/3/2003 at 11:11 AM
Please tell me I did NOT see the word "wigger" up there...

 

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  posted on 30/3/2003 at 12:22 PM
Why do you care? They aren't you.

Do they try and force their lifestyle upon you, or are they just existing? And by screaming at them to "listen to some fucking good music" are you letting them exist, or are you forcing your lifestyle upon them? And unless they asked specifically for your opinion on their music, do you have a rght to criticise it?

And I have yet to hear a person whom you have described label his/herself as "different." The ones that I have known label themselves as "people." And EVERYONE listens to music that pleases them: that is what it is for. Yes, there are messages, but there would be no distribution if people did not find it pleasing in some way. And unless it DIRECTLY AFFTECTS YOU ie causes you physical or emotional harm, what right do you have to take it away from them?

 

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  posted on 30/3/2003 at 01:29 PM
First of all i have to say, that emo is not punk. Emo is basically music made for teenagers.. Just your typical whiney highschool bullshit.

Emo is far from being punk rock music. Punk rock music was made to be a shout out on the system, anarchists and the disagreement with politics. Theres a BIG diffrence between emo and Punk.

Oh.. and as most of the old school punk from the uk ended in the eighties..The american punk is still around here and there.. its pretty intetesting to listen to..

I might also recommend the movie SLC punk... Its got some good humor in it.. and it explains alot..

 

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  posted on 30/3/2003 at 04:33 PM
Yep Court is right....EMO is not punk at all!! Not even close, SLC Punk does kick ass. Me and Kel bought it so we didnt have to keep renting it all the time.

 

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  posted on 30/3/2003 at 07:59 PM
This "cool to be punk" speil has been around longer than avril has been. Leave the girl alone, if she wants to sing her songs and dress the way she does, then more power to her.

And what would you say good music is. I happen to hate just about all punk, should I listen to it anyways even though it will only piss me off?

Let people listen to whatever makes them happy.

Also, I find wigger to be a funny word. I haven't heard another person use it since grade school. Is it making a comeback?

 

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  posted on 30/3/2003 at 08:03 PM
One more thing about the wigger. I know that wigger basically stands for "white nigger". Is it ok to say wigga though, especially if you happen to be one? It's like when gang members, rappers, and comedians refer to each other as nigga.

 

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  posted on 30/3/2003 at 09:20 PM
I dont think Court was trying to force PUNK music on anyone......but if your gonna stereo type people at least do it right......EMO is not PUNK. There is a huge fucking difference. Im sure that you wouldnt appreciate Punk music for what it is, it has a message. No one is trying to force there music on anyone, just pointing out that EMO is not PUNK!!! Who cares if you hate it, its not for everyone. I on the other hand love it!! Still dont care if anyone else likes it or not. Ack I am in a ill mood tonite, I am not trying to be mean but before you jump to say things.....read what it really says.

 

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  posted on 31/3/2003 at 08:23 AM
Oh, I wasn't talking about Court, I was replying to the original poster. GuessI should have made that one clear.

 

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  posted on 31/3/2003 at 08:27 AM
Ooopsie....hehe sorry I got so defensive, but yeah thats my normal psychotic reaction to things. Thought you was saying Court was forcing punk music on her and got all pissy......bah I apologize!

 

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  posted on 31/3/2003 at 08:31 AM
And its pop punk......thats what she should have said, or better yet the hardcore scene has gotten pretty popular now. I see a million hardcore kids running around now.

 

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  posted on 31/3/2003 at 04:42 PM
Yea I meant emo wasn't punk, my bad. I usually listen to old school punk, I don't really like the new stuff that much. Generally, I would agree that metal is alot better...depends on my mood. Pennywise
 

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  posted on 1/4/2003 at 11:09 PM
Dead kennedys.

Kill Kill Kill Kill KILL THE POOR!

 

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