::blink:: Well Damn Bettie! couldn't have thought of it any better and I
love all the milk and cookie stuff tee hee hee..... In all seriousness how
can you define a genre?
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*lol* Dolo I've been compared to a LOT of things, but never cocaine. And
I'm PERFECTLY legal, and I never throw the first punch just in case the
cops show up.
And S_P, I always try to be as clear and straightforward as I can. It is
ALWAYS the easiest to handle things that way. And it's almost impossible
to pin down a "scene/genre" because most kids nowadays have taken the label
of "no label" but feverishly defend their right to not be..oh...NOT
included by any given "label". A common one is "I'm not goth! but I do
like goth stuff, and there shouldn't be any criteria for it because it's
more than blah blah blah" and I HATE It when they do that!
When it comes down to it, "genres" DO have a sort of "set list" of things,
because they're formed in their wee beginnings by LIKE MIDED INDIVIDUALS
who share the same basic ideals, tastes in music/movies/activities/whatever
that actually BECOMES the "genre/scene". Then as that scene or genre gains
popularity or desirability more people become "part" of it and hence it
evolves and changes and dilutes because some of these people might identify
with it but have other "critera" to add to it, and because some others just
wanna belong and get huffy when they don't necessarily "fit" or merge into
it becaus it's "cool"(usually because they try too hard and are not being
their TRUE SELVES and in their zeal to "belong" they overshoot the
barebones meaning of the lifestyle) It happens, it's a part of life, it's
a part of dealing with life.
Most people just enjoy their lives, and their lives reflect their
interests, and their interests attract others (or attract THEM to others)
that SHARE those interests. Their entire life may not be devoted entirely
to upkeeing the IMAGE of the scene they're in, it is simply an aspect of
their personality and that of their associates.
Take bowling for example. Bowling itself is not "goth". Do goths bowl?
Yes, they do, I've seen it. Does that mean bowling is goth or that if you
don't like bowling you're NOT goth? No. It means that you like bowling,
and other people do like to bowl, but don't do it wearing black and lots of
makeup. Being "goth" and bowling with other "goths" on occasion doesn't
make them LESS "goth" any more than it would MAKE bowling MORE "goth". Of
course if they had bowling balls with bats on them, that would make it WAY
more cool, and I actually knew a girl who had Doc's with bowling shoe pads
on the bottom so she wouldn't have to wear goofy shoes (which honestly is
half the fun right there).
Just as Averil, who probably in her right LIKES punk music, but sings pop,
is not confusing people that pop IS punk. The fact that she likes punk
doesn't make her music punk, and just because she sings pop music doesn't
make her any less "punk" in her own right. I have heard her LOOK called
"punk", (even tho it's more on the side of girly/poppy punk looking, but
that's besides the point)I've heard her say she LIKES punk, but I haven't
ever heard her say "Yeah, uhm, my music is punk because I LOOK punk". SO I
don't see what the big deal is. She's just another pop star with a popular
look...nothing to throw up on yourself in a tizzy over. Because afterall
kids....."it's not the music or the clothes or the attitude or the clubs or
the booze you drink that makes you *_______* it's what's in YER SOOOOOUL"
right? Beh.
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 8/5/2003 at 12:09 PM
Bettie, I knew I could count on you to step up and nail this one right out
of the park. Jolly good show!
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callei
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posted on 8/5/2003 at 12:50 PM
I so love it when you set thier bunched panties on fire.
Can you do the milk and cookies for "jocks", "geeks", "normals", and "art
fags"? is it safe to give milk and cookies to any group of hormone ridden
sugar glutted teenagers?
ooo how about gutter punks? are they safe? what about hippie kids? what
about the jr republicans? or the bible thumpers? what about the
cheerleaders? (thinks they would explode getting that close to real food)
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MystryssRavynDarque
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posted on 8/5/2003 at 02:01 PM
Gutter punks are pretty cool. My friend Jackie loves dirty punk guys, and
she has met up with a few who are train hoppers. They have seen so much
and have learned so much just by being out in the world. I like the
"Hippie" punks as well and anarchist punks. I love my punks. My street,
my oi, oh yeah! My pop punks, icky! Emos are only good for one reason,
sensitivity. Then they become a pain in the ass and you need yourself some
good street punk. Or a yummy goth....mmmmmmmm*drools*
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think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
Nicholas
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posted on 8/5/2003 at 02:22 PM
I'm good friends with most of the punk rockers at my school... mainly
because despite the fact I don't like punk rock, I do like it's ideals and
statements (we're talking like sex pistols and shit, not Blink 182 or
"pussy-pop-punk" bands). The one band that pisses us all off right now is
good Charlotte. What the fuck? THE SONG WHINES AND COMPLAINS ABOUT BEING
ANOTHER TREND, WHEN THE ONLY REASON THE SONG EVEN GETS AIRTIME IS BECAUSE
THEY'RE ANOTHER TREND! Simple Plan is whiny, and annoying and shames me of
being Canadian, ditto for Avril Lavigne, who is even more of a fuck seeing
she rallies against corporatism when she's a coporate product and all her
hits we wrote by a song writing team, not her. And well i'm still on a
rant... WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH ALEXIS ON FIRE!?! have you guy's heard
them yet? It's emo with some guy screaming over it... terrible, terrible
band...
____________________ "Be neither a master nor a slave to pudding, for there is a time to gather,
and a time to cast pudding away"
M_W you're more than welcome...I aim to please (and kill, but what's the
diff really)
And seeing how the knot in the panties was ever so "complex" and I have no
time for undoing complex knots, I simply bring out the bic. It's easier,
and an instant part if someone brings marshmallows.
Give a jock a cookie, and he'll say "What are you, some kind of home-ec
fag?" Then he demands milk (as it does a body goooood) and so you give him
milk, chugs it, stuffs the cookie, and tells you to bring him more or he'll
have his football buddies pound you.
Give a geek a cookie and he'll politely ask you for a glass of milk, 2%, as
whole milk makes him "gassy". He'll then dip the cookie, take a bite, and
remark how it's nothing like his mom makes them, then ask you quite eagerly
if you'd like to have some of his MOM'S milk and cookies while you two play
a rousing game of "Magic: the Gathering" in his mom's basement.
Give an art fag a cookie and he'll study the shape, texture, and color
scheme, decide that it does NOT go with his outfit AT ALL, that it's tacky
and bland, throw it down and strut away in a huff, and then go bitch about
it to his manicurist.
Give a jr republican a cookie and they'll coerce you into giving up the
company name of the cookie to see if their dad made any money off it. Then
they look at you suspiciously and ask if you're some kind of milk hoarding
communist for not providing them a glass of milk, and promptly have you
arrested as part of a world wide milk hoarding conspiracy (all on the hush
hush mind you god forbid there's a scandal!) and have an "example" made out
of you for future milk hoarders.
Give a bible thumper a cookie and they'll go into a sermon how it's god's
will that every god fearin man and woman have a RIGHT to have milk with
cookies. This takes an hour, and it's a hot afternoon, and the milk has
become sour. They assume since you've tried giving them soured milk that
you're the devil, haul you away to their doublewide and attempt to
"EXORCISE THE DEEEMONS" which involves hitting you with bibles and making
you drink that goddamn sour milk to "consume and purge your sin".
Give a cheerleader a cookie and she'll give you "the look" like you're just
another one of her creepy admirers (she has a list in her diary you know)
and when you convince her that you are NOT she gets mad and demands to know
WHY you aren't following her. She loses her train of thought and squeals
"COOKIE!!! OMG!!!" and bops up and down while she crams it. She then
squeals again "OMG COOKIE!!" with a look of horror on her face as she bolts
to the bathroom to purge (gotta keep that bouncy figure).
Give a hippie kid a cookie, and he'll stand there staring at it going "woah
man, cookies, that's soooooo cooool of you maaan" while you stand there
trying not to pass out from the wafts of patchoulli and BO (as you are
unfortunately downwind). He then aks you if it's organic, if it's got his
one true love Mary Jane in it, if it's homemade, if it doesn't come from a
cookie sweatshop, and finally, if you have a dollar. You finally tell him
to take the fucking cookie, a shower, and some prozac and run like crazy
before he can brainwash you into an evening of pot smoking and hemp
braiding and bead making while you listen to nirvana and lament over curt's
tragedy and what a whore courtney is.
Give a normal a cookie and they'll say "oh I don't eat, think or
feel...because you know, I'm just ONE OF THEM...not an individual like you.
Wanna go listen to some Averil and Blink 182?"
I did my best callei, and remember babe, I do it ALL FOR YOU!!! *smooch*
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AloneSoul
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posted on 9/5/2003 at 03:26 AM
- "My personality is too complex..."
...
I've been away from shmeng for too long if I'm seeing comments like that
being tossed around.
No, you haven't been away too long, this stuff just sorta comes and
goes....like a red tide. Eventually the ducks will stop crapping in the
lake, and the water will again be safe for skinnydipping.
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MystryssRavynDarque
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posted on 9/5/2003 at 05:02 PM
Skinny dipping time! Everyone in the pool!
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think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is
the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
Anya
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posted on 10/5/2003 at 08:05 AM
Hehe love the jokes Bettie, especially the Bible one.
All I have to say about the trend post as of now is people should just...be
true to themselves. Hell, I don't give a shit if a friend listens to
Britney Spears (don't like her, but that's me *shrug*). It doesn't matter
if they look "trendy" or "plain" or whatnot - if they love what they do and
wear, I guess more power to them as long as it harms none (again, my side).
And nice seeing you again Alone Soul.
Give Anya a cookie and she'll be going all lethargically, "Coookiiieesss."
Then she'll eat it.
And you're dead on. I have friends that just don't get my taste in music,
and I don't get theirs either, so if we're stuck in the car together we
just friggin comprimise. Music and the trends that it follows/creates have
become the new religion, and everyone is scrambling and screeching about
which one is the one true "music" and how "no no no that's crap, you're
stupid, THIS is music...". I can't wait for the Music Inquisition....oh
wait, that was Metallica with Napster....
Trends are trends, ooo boo hoo. And the funny thing is that the more
people hate something, the more they react to it. Howard Stern and Tom
Leykis have made a KILLING off people that hate them, because those people
listen to their show (contributing to their ratings) LISTEN TO IT EVERY DAY
so they can yell about how wrong and horrible they are and CALL AND TELL
THEM SO. Instead of just turning the station and finding something they
like, hence killing their ratings and making them "less desireable" and
being done with them. During the time when the "devil in rock and roll"
phase hit most god fearing parents in the 80's, THE PARENTS were the ones
buying records for "destroying" parties (and yes I've seen them), hence
putting money in the hands of the people they hate most JUST so they can be
like "look what I"m doing to your record! SO THERE!!" or they'd destroy
their kids records and the kid would just go out and buy NEW ones and give
that artist even MORE money.
They say that it takes twice as much energy to frown as it does to smile,
and when people hate somthing they actually put that same doubled energy
into hating than they do when they love something. So basically even tho
you might not perse be "supporting" the things you hate financially, you're
paying them with your time and energy. As well as a LOT of publicity.
There is no publicity like bad publicity.
If I'm going to waste my energy hating something or someone, it's going to
be something or someone that directly interferes with my life and my
happiness, and it's going to be strong but short lived as I'll deal with it
and move on.
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BlueLinn
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posted on 20/1/2004 at 07:45 AM
ok. repeat. Go fung shue,, let it go. It does not matter what other people
think or is "trendy". As long as the people wearing "whatever" is
comfortable wearing it and is a decent person. Nothing else really
matters.
.... there is no normal,
there are no trends,
there is just you, clothes, and other people.
As long as you bathe normally, you should have nothing to worry about
unless your personallity sucks. most people WILL look past clothes and
looks and pay attention to your,,, :repeat: PERSONALLITY,, unless it
sucks....
:nods: :sighs: :continues to flip through forums:
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BlueLinn
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posted on 20/1/2004 at 07:54 AM
mmm chumba wamba.
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