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Author: Subject: Stealth Goth Movies

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  posted on 28/10/2003 at 02:18 PM
I've just been noticing that I've seen all the good movies. So in order to get some new movie suggestions and to have a little fun, I propose a game.

The game is called "Stealth Gothic Movies" - the format is:

1) Part one Tells why it's goth
2) Part two Tells why other movies like it aren't

The rules are:

No typical goth movies. "Gothic" would be a good example of a movie that's not stealthy - also anything involving anne rice or vampires would be bad.

Off topic posts will be deleted to keep the game going. If you comment on a previous post, make sure you include a movie in yours.

Here's examples of the format you should use:
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Serpent and the Rainbow

1) Zombies and dead folks walking around.
2) Other movies about zombies and dead folks walking around aren't true stories.


Harold and Maude

1) Harold dies more than most main characters. The car.
2) Other movies don't break nearly as many taboos even now. Also, when this one was made, Siouxie was only 14.

[Edited on 10/29/2003 by Devin]

 

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  posted on 19/9/2009 at 10:10 PM
Return to Oz

1. It's full of monsters and severed heads. All the fun colors are gone. All the songs are gone. It's one of the darkest and most disturbed stories I've seen. It even starts off with a child getting electro shock therapy. Also starring Faruza Balk

2. For once, they keep all the twisted disturbing images in a children's story. And no dance numbers.

The Call of the Cthulhu
1. Filmed by the H.P. Lovecraft historical Society, and it features everybody's favorite Great old One.

2. It's done as a silent movie, forgoing all the tricks and digital wizardry that makes a lot of movies suck these days. It's actually pretty much on the mark when it comes to transferring from book to film.

 

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  posted on 28/8/2009 at 03:52 AM
Creep

1) The main character (girl in yellow dress) couldn't be killed.
2) Metro monster - original!

 

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  posted on 15/6/2005 at 10:17 PM
Lain 1-4

1. Because death isn't really the end and teenagers are killing themselves. Because the internet is a real world that is linked to the world we all live. Because the main character wears a school girl uniform. There are hackers, drugs, dance clubs, moody moments, long artistic silences and alter egos living on the wired (net). And finally because the main character is trying to figure out just who she really is and finds out she is everything and nothing at all.

2. Because most other anime out there now days is crap. (Don't tell my daughter, the anime fanatic that I said that)

 

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  posted on 15/6/2005 at 11:19 AM
OH no, not by far, there are several talented directors out there, it's simply that Burton posesses an unusually creative imagination that takes the ordinary and skews it to create something unbelieveable out of the believeable, and seems to ME the only director out there who could properly capture and retain the integrity of Mernau's original visions. Burton is like watching a Mernau film with a high budget, and Mernau is like watching a turn of the centry Burton. When you take into effect the IMPACT of his movies, you realise that as a silent film, plot lines are rather limited to miming and occasional printed intersections of dialogue to give you a general idea of character and story line, yet he does this without spoken words but through spectacualr vision of body language and visual sets and motion. "Nosferatu" was fantastically Hi-Tech for it's time in the special effects dept, and many of his techniques used in that film by simply stopping, slowing down, or speeding up the film are spectacular in their simplicity and STILL give me goosebumps (especially the scene in which Count Orlock rises from his coffin after the lid displaces itself, and the ghastly hunched, long fingered shadow creeping along the mast of the ship taking the monster to America). His films are RIDDLED with analogies and social statements, especially Metropolis, where the rich a elite play in a high rise eden which is in turn run by deadly subteranean human and mechanical slave labor, while a more sinister plan unfolds amongst the rich and the poor of a super race of mechanical beings (ie: neitzche and hitler's supermen).

 

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  posted on 14/6/2005 at 09:48 PM
Isn't he one of the only directors with imagination?

 

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  posted on 14/6/2005 at 08:51 PM
It's amazing, you'll love it, but you have to pay close attention to the plot, it's very off kilter which makes it so wonderful (aside from the imagery...woah)

I'd love to see Tim Burton remake it. I really think he's the only director with the imagination to do it true.

 

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  posted on 14/6/2005 at 12:26 AM
Bettie: I actually have The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari waiting for me in the living room. It is just a matter of time before....bwahahaha.....I watch it.

 

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  posted on 13/6/2005 at 09:25 PM
Dr. Strangelove, Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb

1) Its a classic. Directed by Stanley Kubrick. Peter Sellers in multible roles. A political satire about nuclear war. Need I say more.

2) Never seen a political movie more truthful about government(s).

 

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  posted on 13/6/2005 at 08:58 PM
Metropolis is a FINE film! I think I like Cabinet of Dr. Calagari better, but Metropolis has a darker meaning in it's imagery and story line, whereas Cabinet is a surreal horror fantasy. Am I the only one who still gets chills watching the original "nosferatu"?

 

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  posted on 13/6/2005 at 06:45 PM
Metropolis

1) There is a really cool scene with the seven deadly sins as statues and a grim reaper statue. The Reaper statue keeps swinging his scythe and it kicks soo much ass.

2) The mad scientist made me think of Christopher Lloyd, so there must be something to this whole mad scientist look. He has a most kick ass looking robot chick. This film has amazing special effects for the 1920's.

3) It almost bankrupted the UFA.

4) Reportedly one of Adolf Hilter's favorite films. (taken from IMDB)

5) Brigitte Helm (Maria/The Robot) refuses to talk about this movie and deines that she was ever in it. (taken from IMDB)

[Edited on 6/14/2005 by MystryssRavynDarque]

 

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  posted on 13/6/2005 at 10:47 AM
Abb that was really really funny

 

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  posted on 13/6/2005 at 09:47 AM
Matrix

1)People dressed in ridiculous black clothing.

2)...oh...wait...

 

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  posted on 9/6/2005 at 03:44 PM
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Drop Dead Fred

1) Because everyone needs friends that aren't very real. Because it uses symbolism that is totally believable and works with dream analysis and normal psychology.
2) Other Kids movies don't adress adult themes in such a subtle but accurate way.



DDF is my favourite movie of ALL time. I thought it was funny enough when I was little, but once I grew up and found out how 'saucey' it was, it was 90 times better.

I'd have to add True Romance (Quentin) to the list because;

* Patricia Arquette screams like a ravenous she-wolf encrusted with blood as her boobs hang out.
* The fight she has before the above scene is fantastic.
* Christian Slater's best friend is a hallucination of Elvis that tells him to kill people
* Chistopher Walken.


- It's not like any other movie because it's kind of like Pretty Woman - another hooker with a heart of gold (Patricia Arquette) - only this time we get to see all the drugs, violence, and emotional upheaval involved. Though I'm sure there's other movies like that, I don't think I've seen any as wonderfully put together as our beloved Quentin has done.



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  posted on 8/6/2005 at 02:22 AM
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2 ingmar bergman films

first, the virgin spring
1) it is about a young maiden venturing out in her finest apparel to a religious event revering the virgin mary, on her way she is brutally raped and murdered by vagabonds she meets along the way. later these same vagabonds seek shelter with a family and offer to pay w/ the girl's clothes, they came to the wrong house.
2)it is an old movie, i believe made in the 1930's or 40's and it is very rare to find such a violent movie filled with all the brutality and revenge in graphic detail in the time frame in which the film was made. it can be found in the foreign film section, if you don't mind subtitles i highly recommend this flick.

second, the seventh seal
1)the main character is challenged by death to a game of chess , every where the man goes death is waiting, he is playing for his own life.
2)never seen anything like it, talk about death being at one's elbow, i will not tell you who wins

[Edited on 30/10/2003 by ariadne]


I just realized that in the Casa Bonita episode of South Park Jimmy tells Cartman a knock knock joke to use to make people like him more.

Jimmy: Well, Eric, pah part of being nice is just making people smile and laugh. The best way to do that is by telling a fan-tastic joke or a humorius anti-d- ant'duhh ...antecdote.
Cartman: Like what?
Jimmy: Well, like, try this one on for size: Knock knock.
Cartman: Who's there?
Jimmy: Ing-mar ...Bergman. [Cartman jumps, but not because of the joke. Kyle approaches them from the other end of the hall.] Now you say, "Ingmar Bergman who?"

I was told that the joke might end with "Exactly". That could be the only possible end to the joke. It made me laugh for a long time.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2004 at 12:00 AM
I hate to say it... but the crow three...

it was trying so hard to be goth that it failed... so it caught me by surprise... the writing was decent, and the good was truly bad... etc...

and the others...just try

 

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  posted on 2/3/2004 at 10:30 PM
Oxygen

1. A psychotic kiddnapper that buries his victim alive in order to become famous by out smarting the cops

2. Includes a cop that's in to being tortured and a very strange escape plan involving ripping of his own thumb nail.......don't know about you but I haven't seen that in a movie before.

 

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  posted on 29/2/2004 at 07:57 PM
Hmm... If your going to recomend Ghost Dog might as well watch The Professional, and The Long Kiss Good Night.

I guess Quentin Tarantino movies could be added to the cannon. A few examples: Pulp Fiction, Curdled, Kill Bill vol.1-(3).

These are mere suggestions.

[Edited on 3/1/2004 by dead-cell]

 

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  posted on 29/2/2004 at 07:08 PM
I have never been able to watch "The Mothman Prophecies" all the way through but I am curious about how closely it resembles the book. I read the book when I was 14 or 15, maybe, and even then it seemed pretty obvious to me that the author (the main character in the movie) was paranoid and delusional. There is a part in the book where either the FBI or the CIA (both agencies were fighting over who got to spy on him) was tapping his phone line using a cigar load. He also discovers at one point that he has two phone lines (the other installed by one of the above agencies, with a number 1 digit off from his real one), and starts using it because his long distance bills get too high. It was just so kooky I can't believe it was made into a movie.

"Following" by the guy who did Memento is a good movie, but hard to find and short.

I'm going to put this one on the list, though I suspect it might not be all that steathy: Donnie Darko (despite the title, there are not really any characters in the movie who could be called goth)

1. Deals with death, time travel, mental illness, figuring out one's purpose, and ends with the main character killing himself in the most bizarre way I have ever seen in a movie (not that it is terribly clear that that is what is happening).

2. The plot is incredibly hard to figure out. You have to see it more than once and each time you can come up with a different theory about what it is about. The DVD has a director's commentary track that explains the plot...I had gotten close but had missed something pretty critical.

Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai

1. Features an incredibly efficient mob hitman who follows the code of the Samurai. The main character does not speak a language in common with his best friend, but they always understand one another.

2. The movie has a very slow and deliberate pace to it. The main character, even though he is a hitman, is incredibly passive, relying on the code to dictate his every action.

 

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  posted on 29/2/2004 at 04:45 PM
Brotherhood of the Wolf (Le Pacte des loups)
1) 18th century france, 18th century weapons, Monica Bellucci dressed constantly in black lace, leather, and corsets... sex, violence, gypsies, lots of candles, aristocrats, giant monsterous wolf beast.
2) I challenge you to find another french movie with a whip-sword, giant wolf beast, and a kung-fu indian

 

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