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Devin
Administrator   Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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 posted on 28/10/2003 at 02:18 PM |
I've just been noticing that I've seen all the good movies. So in order to
get some new movie suggestions and to have a little fun, I propose a
game.
The game is called "Stealth Gothic Movies" - the format is:
1) Part one Tells why it's goth
2) Part two Tells why other movies like it aren't
The rules are:
No typical goth movies. "Gothic" would be a good example of a movie that's
not stealthy - also anything involving anne rice or vampires would be
bad.
Off topic posts will be deleted to keep the game going. If you comment on a
previous post, make sure you include a movie in yours.
Here's examples of the format you should use:
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Serpent and the Rainbow
1) Zombies and dead folks walking around.
2) Other movies about zombies and dead folks walking around aren't true
stories.
Harold and Maude
1) Harold dies more than most main characters. The car.
2) Other movies don't break nearly as many taboos even now. Also, when
this one was made, Siouxie was only 14.
[Edited on 10/29/2003 by Devin] ____________________
So Sayeth Me
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Domkitten
Fanatic  Posts: 470 Registered: 23/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/10/2003 at 08:11 PM |
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
1) It's set in China and features a fabulous sword
2) It's not afriad to have the perfect ending.
American Psycho
1) Yuppies can be dangerous, too.
2) Yuppies can be dangerous, too. ____________________
It's like kegel exercises for your throat.~Monolycus
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Xaoswolf
Fanatic  Posts: 463 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/10/2003 at 10:43 PM |
Infested
1) It's got zombies powered by photophobic flies, and flies eat deat
things
2) It's got Amy Jo Johnson (The Pink Ranger) in a shower scene, followed by
frantic running in a towel! 
Death Race 2000
1) David Carradine's character dresses in head to toe black leather and
zippers
2) Mathilda the Hun, the lovable Nazi lass... ____________________
Sometimes I dream about dinosaurs shopping for cargo shorts at the Gap.
Does that make me a bad person?
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Ironboots
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/10/2003 at 11:18 PM |
Why's everyone putting two movies each? Do we have to?
(I can only think of one right now, sorry...)
Gattica
1)Story about guy pretending to be someone else, in an attempt to show them
that he (a second-class citizen) can be just as good as society's perfect
humans.
2)Kickass futuristic-but-1930s look to it.
3)Its got a cute blonde chick that dresses in black. (need I say more?
 ) ____________________
Piggy's got the Conch!
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Devin
Administrator Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 12:33 AM |
Eyes wide shut
1) Because the last word in the movie is "Fuck" - because EVERYONE gets
laid but the main character - Because everyone gets laid in interesting
ways - because Kubrick managed to have a reasonably graphic gothic orgy
scene and still get it an R rating.
2) Other directors don't have the balls to get their characters laid as
interestingly as Kubrick
Heavenly Creatures
1) Cuz kate winslet is a lesbian (sorta). Cuz the relationships are
complex. Cuz Makebelieve land is goth as fuck. Cuz it's psycho and pretty
at the same time.
2) Other movies don't remind you of borderline psychos you know nearly as
much as this one unless you need more interesting friends. ____________________
So Sayeth Me
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 01:55 AM |
Labyrinth
1-David Bowie as a villian with a muppetly-correct wardrobe that is still
slick as ever (above the waist anyway). Jennifer Connelly as an angsty
whiney teenager. The ballroom scene.
2-muppets ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
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ariadne
Member   Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 01:43 PM |
dark city
1) it is a place where people are forced to live in perpetual darkness and
their existence is manipulated as if they were puppets every night while
they sleep.
2)the story line is pretty philisophic for an alien movie.it is quite
deep.
[Edited on 29/10/2003 by ariadne] ____________________
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Kira
Member  Posts: 149 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 03:15 PM |
Santa Sangre
1. It is about one man's decent into madness. There is a character who
wears a black tutu with white face paint. An elephant dies, and you will
cry. It was co-written by Dario Argento's brother. It features a cult.
The colors in it are all beutiful. The main characters are a tattoed
woman, a bunch of clowns, a knife thrower, and guy whose relationship with
his mother puts Norman Bates to shame. Because the ending is truly sad and
happy at the same time, which is rare in any type of movie.
2. There are no other movies like it, at least that I have yet to see.
Get the NC-17 version if you can find it, but in a pinch R will do. ____________________
Wind me up and make me crawl to you, tie me up until I call to you.
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Merry_Widow
Fanatic  Posts: 598 Registered: 24/8/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 04:57 PM |
Momento
1) The main character has no short term memeory whatsoever due to a head
injury. The last thing he can remember is watching his wife die. He tattoos
important facts on himself as he hunts down her killer and goes through all
sorts of emotional ups and downs.
2) Chronologically, the movie goes backwards. You see the ending, then they
show you how it got there. ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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Devin
Administrator Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 05:11 PM |
Santa Sangre - Damm - i'd totally forgotten about that movie. It was
psycho. Like more psycho than 'Psycho'. Damm Damm Damm... Yea, there's
not really any other movies like it.
Titus
1) Because everybody dies. Even the good guys. Extremely Brutally. And then
even worse stuff happens to them. When shakespeare writes a tragedy, he
doesn't fuck around.
2) There are no other movies like this because most film versions of
Shakespeare plays aren't graphic (romeo and juliet for instance). Nothing
that was written specifically for film would dare be this graphic and
wicked 'cause the writers would be worried about getting it produced. Plus
nowdays, most writers seem to think that once the good guys are done
killing the bad guys that enough is enough - and that there's no need for
them to go killing the bad guys parents, or children, or their own
children, and friends, and pets, or themselves.... And if they do, they
certainly aren't good enough at it to make the viewer think it was all
justified.
____________________
So Sayeth Me
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 07:03 PM |
Tattoo (circa 1981)
(1) The main character Karl is a tattoo artist, who is former military, a
loner, obsessive, and seemingly quite insane. He steals away the object of
his obsession, Maddy, who is a model and very untattooed. While she's
drugged, he tattoos her with a full-back style tattoo. When she came
to...well she didn't like that so much.
(2) Haven't seen any other movies with the whole plot surrounding really
cool Asian style tattoos.
[Edited on 10/30/2003 by Starlight] ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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dead-cell
Fanatic  Posts: 344 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 08:55 PM |
hmm...
Crime and Punishment in Suburbia:
1. A new strange boy in town. A girl who's family goes to the craper. A
love thats meant to be.
2. Some good artistic shots. ____________________
co-worker: "Your gay!?"
myself: "Didn't you see my rainbow pin?"
co-worker: "I just thought you liked skettles."
-(yes, it actually happened to me)
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Domkitten
Fanatic Posts: 470 Registered: 23/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/10/2003 at 08:57 PM |
Man, Titus was a fantastically disturbing movie, and does Shakespeare ever
know how to kick some serious ass. That was one of the darkest goriest
love/bloodbath fests I've ever seen, and I was so disturbed I don't know if
I could ever watch it again.
Needless to say I thought about this all night last night.
The Grifters
1. It has John Cusack as the worlds best short con man. It has a big
Oedipal complex and lots of good advice for the future short con artists of
America. Not to mention explaining about the oranges.
2. It has Angelica Houston as a blonde bombshell, and I for one haven't
seen that anywhere else.
The Piano
1. It's a period piece about a Scottish woman being wed to someone she's
never met. It's highly erotic, has fantastic scenery and the music will
make you laugh cry and orgasm all at the same time. It's obsession and love
and violence, slavery and freedom.
2. The main character doesn't say a word during the film and expresses
herself completely through music.
Dangerous Liaisons
1. Fantastic costums and some of the most strategic fucking imaginable, all
planned of course, as a stage in the downfall of others; well planned, and
with a real sense of revenge.
2. John Malkovich doing slapstick.
Dancer in the Dark
1. It's a bitter and crushing view of America, immigration, health care,
and the justice system. It is a no holds bare attack on the politics of
yesterday and today. It's beautiful. It is also the only time I've been to
the theater and told I would not be given my money back if I got sick while
watching it.
2. It's a musical about a blind factory worker cum murder, and all the
music is by Bjork.
Dogville
1. Another real stab at the American class system this movie has so much in
it I don't know where to begin. It's essentially a play, as it has nothing
but a black box set with minor props. It's graphic description of violence,
rape, and death will make you squirm in your seat. It turns on
intellectuals, the poor, the rich, and those with pretended beliefs. In the
end everyone becomes what they are the most opposed to. It will teach you
the true nature of Stoicism.
2. Nicole Kidman as a slave to an entire town, complete with a leash and
weighted chains; learning that the ideals one has can become very different
when faced with reality.
Todo Sobre mi Madre
1. Set in Madrid a story that revolves around a person killed in the first
ten minutes of the film, an obsession with women of all ages and walks of
life, and Tennessee Williams. Plus it’s a foreign film for god sakes.
2. Some of the most interesting takes of transsexual prostitution ever put
to a film that has actually won an Oscar.
Ran
1. A Japanese version of King Lear in which everyone is killed and in which
you feel that almost all the deaths are entirely justified. A horrific
battle scene featuring soldiers with spears, swords, and horses that is
more graphic and wrenching than anything a modern director had down.
Deception, betrayal, and deceit, and only the Court Jester is really aware
of what is going on.
2. An ending that will fill you with loneliness and a complete despair for
mankind and yourself.
If I really start going with the foreign films we might be here all day,
but just one more:
Lenigrad Cowboys go to America
1. A fantastically funny take on enterprising entrepreneurs, including a
classic road trip, the discovery of a long lost cousin, and a beer drinking
corpse.
2. The Lenigrad Cowboys.
[Edited on 10/30/2003 by Domkitten] ____________________
It's like kegel exercises for your throat.~Monolycus
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/10/2003 at 01:01 AM |
They Live
*it's john carpenter, and it's got an evil plot that is exposed when Roudy
Roddy Piper of WWF fame finds super secret sunglasses that allows him to
see past the human exterior to the zombie like mind rulers beneath as well
as the subliminal signs behind advertisements that say "obey" "sleep" and
"marry and reproduce". Evil subliminal zombie plots are TRES goth,
friends.
*beause nobody else could turn a ridiculous plot like that into a watchable
movie. And come on...it's Roddy Piper...Plus, who else would put a 20 min
fight sequence into a film that doesn't involve explosives? ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic  Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/10/2003 at 09:17 AM |
Coligula
Malcolm McDowell (of Clockwork ORange) as a psychotic Roman Emperor, in
elaborate leather costumes (mostly too short) and with a hefty need for
blood shed. You get the gambit here people:
Leather
Torture
Gigantic Head cleaving execution devices
Deformed freaks of nature
Hard core sex
Orgasms set to classical music
Rape
Bondage
A period piece
Out of control Roman pyscotics who commands his armies to cut down field of
reeds for fun
Tons of black lace
Blood everywhere
This flick was produced by PentHouse productions, so the sex is uber
liberal and highly prevalent, but dude, its the Roman empire, and he's a
crazy Roman Nympho who screw his own sister and marries the biggest whore
in all of Rome. It's also very hard to find, but it's probably the only
time Pornographic thmes where mixed with an actual plot and it works.
(best scene) Solving the Roman deficit by mating the biggest whore in
rome=Senators wives. with his opinion of who the richest in Rome
are=pimps.
Imperial orgy! 5 gold pieces and you get a senators wife! Genius. ____________________
“The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a buzzard.
Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat
anything.”
Faulkner
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ariadne
Member Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/10/2003 at 09:41 AM |
titus - yeah that is a great movie and beautifully done , not done in the
traditional shakespearean style either, titus is placed in no definite
timeframe, that is the beauty of shakespeare there is no set time or era
for any of his plays. titus is so brutal and tragic and anthony hopkins
kicked some royal ass in that one.
anyhow,
the company of wolves
1) if you like little red riding hood and old wives tales set in motion, it
is beautifully done with a dreamlike quality, shall we say sublime?
2)aside from the cheesy special effects it is still a very beautiful movie
to watch, it is kind of surreal in its own way.
2 ingmar bergman films
first, the virgin spring
1) it is about a young maiden venturing out in her finest apparel to a
religious event revering the virgin mary, on her way she is brutally raped
and murdered by vagabonds she meets along the way. later these same
vagabonds seek shelter with a family and offer to pay w/ the girl's
clothes, they came to the wrong house.
2)it is an old movie, i believe made in the 1930's or 40's and it is very
rare to find such a violent movie filled with all the brutality and revenge
in graphic detail in the time frame in which the film was made. it can be
found in the foreign film section, if you don't mind subtitles i highly
recommend this flick.
second, the seventh seal
1)the main character is challenged by death to a game of chess , every
where the man goes death is waiting, he is playing for his own life.
2)never seen anything like it, talk about death being at one's elbow, i
will not tell you who wins
[Edited on 30/10/2003 by ariadne] ____________________
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Domkitten
Fanatic Posts: 470 Registered: 23/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/10/2003 at 10:30 PM |
Snow White - A Tale of Terror
1. With fantastic acting, scenery and direction, beautiful music, and that
extra creepy sense of being alone in a big dark castle, stuck with your
evil stepmother, this film is beautiful and grotesque at the same time.
Some really intense and gorey scenes, including some mutant baby stuff that
can really turn your stomach.
2. A retelling of a children's fairy tale that is a hell of a lot closer to
reality than one would expect to see in a film.
Alien, Aliens, Alien3 and Alien Resurrection
1. Science fiction mixed with the bloody slaughter of the entire cast on a
regular basis. And none of them get laid or even have time to take off
their clothes before they are masacred, which is really avant garde.
A kick-ass "take no prisoners" babe that manages to survive the
incompetance of everyone around her and still come back kicking. Sets based
on the art work of Giger that play on some of the darkest workings of your
imagination and dreams.
2. An acid for blood alien with two mouths, teeth till next week and a
really bad temper.
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It's like kegel exercises for your throat.~Monolycus
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic  Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/10/2003 at 10:44 PM |
Little Red Riding Hood... the one starring Christina Ricci. It's a black
and white short, but will fuck you up forever as far as that story goes.
Gets into every sexual fetish imaginable, cross-dressing, cannibalism,
coprophilia... you name it. And it's pretty.
Moulin Rouge. The principles of the bohemien Lost Generation are the same
as the goths of today. Beauty, Truth, Freedom and above all things, Love.
and the heroine dies just as love is reconciled.
The Princess Bride. A Man in Black, action, adventure, swordplay, a
fire-swamp with R.O.U.S., beautiful maiden, and True Love. everything a
growing child needs to have faith in the good things in life restored. ____________________
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LostGothHun
Coward   Posts: 1 Registered: 1/11/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 3/11/2003 at 08:51 PM |
Snow White: A tale of Terror
1. The story is not at all like your average fairy tale it is beatifully
done grotesque in some places but yet a story to make you think. The plot
is well written and the story ends in a unique way. The clothes are
gorgeous, well crafted.
2. A tale made realistic yet done is a beatiful fashion. ____________________
I didn't say it's your fault, I said I'm gonna blame you.
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callei
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 759 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/11/2003 at 09:00 AM |
Cold Comfort Farm:
1) The story was written to mimic and satorize the gothic novel. Everyone
is gloomy, insane, or both. The farm is called Cold Comfort, and the family
memebers arent allowed to go to any public gathering except funerals and
the churching of women.
2) This has a sense of humour about the story itself AND the making of that
story into a movie. And everyone ends up happy in the end unlike most movie
versions of old books. ____________________
Real goths wear silver and crosses to keep the werewolves and vampires
away.
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