diabolus_ab_caliga
Occasional Poster Posts: 12 Registered: 27/3/2003 Status: Offline
|
posted on 12/9/2003 at 05:33 PM |
I'm severly annoyed with people telling me off about wear revealing
clothing, if I want to show off that I'm not fat and bulky and have a
reasonably good figure, that is my own buisness is it not? I'm not picking
up any guys, it doesn't bother me. The point is, I'm not dressing up for
anyone....I'm doing my own fucking thing...but I am curious. Are there any
goth guys between 15-25 who live in Ontario? Well.....that was Ironic...
____________________ -------------------------------------------------------------
"We fear what we do not understand, yet it is this fear of the Unknown that
blinds us from the truth..." - Daemon
--------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
W0rmW00d
Fanatic Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 4/11/2004 at 08:25 AM |
a thought just occurred to me. i just rescanned this thread so i could be
wrong, but did anyone give this advice to the original poster: if someone
tells you off for dressing 'provocatively' just tell them to fuck off. its
their problem not yours. ____________________ Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world. |
|
W0rmW00d
Fanatic Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 4/11/2004 at 04:57 AM |
i think pale face used the word you were looking for: pathetic? ____________________ Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world. |
|
Shade
Fanatic Posts: 289 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 31/10/2004 at 01:33 PM |
And yet that is what puritan hard line Xians ask their followers to do in
order to follow their god. How - something.
____________________ It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of religion.
-Me |
|
pale-face
Fanatic Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 29/10/2004 at 01:55 PM |
wormwood you have a point. i realize that not every one gives up everything
to get laid. seldom do, but those who do are just so... i dont even know if
there is a word for it. but i pity their need for sex. it is pathetic if
you need to hang off someone to make them have sex with you. ____________________ fucking classy. |
|
ash_psyche
Coward Posts: 10 Registered: 28/10/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 29/10/2004 at 11:12 AM |
Holy shit! I'm not alone! I guess that means I'm not the last monogamist
either. I share a lot of the withdrawal that bettie_x had, but I got nabbed
by someone at work. He was too charming for me... I may get completely shot
down for this, but I just don't want to share that sort of intimacy with
everyone. Ideally, only one person, but since that plan got shot in the
foot a long time ago, I'm determined to make this one my final. |
|
W0rmW00d
Fanatic Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 28/10/2004 at 08:00 PM |
i think it was pale-face who was lamenting that people didnt realise that
they have to abandon eveerything to get into bed with someone.
i simply dont think this is true. certainly i am not the most experienced,
but most of the sex that i have had i feel that i have abandoned nothing
and, to the best of my knowlege, my partners felt the same. obviously
sometimes people do abandon everything for an easy fuck, but not everyone
who has sex, or wants to, should be tarred with the same brush.
whether people feel comfortable, sexy, desirable, or easy in what they wear
it should be their perogative to wear it. we can like it or loathe it but
it is their body and their choice. as our good lord matt groening wrote (or
had someone to write for him) in a simpsons treehouse of horror, 'just dont
look' if it distresses you. i dont think that we should presume to judge
people for the clothes they wear. if you noticed me walking down the street
you would probably fish for loose change. doesnt mean that i am a tramp. of
course in the case of townies (wiggers chavs etc) it is perfectly
acceptable to judge them instantly and harshly, but thats just the
exception that proves the rule.
oh, and my twopenny'orth on what i find sexy. yes, revealing clothing can
be and often is sexy, but the most sexy person it has ever been my pleasure
to know never wears revealing clothing.
[Edited on 29/10/2004 by W0rmW00d] ____________________ Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world. |
|
bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 28/10/2004 at 01:30 AM |
That's a good theory. I systematically avoided, shot down, or gave down
right nasties to most everyone who even HINTED they wanted anything from me
or had any interest, or I just outright didn't see it because I didn't WANT
anybody. I have no need for "friends"...I do have them, I just select
people that are like me and don't want anyone to expect anything out of
them other than the occasional beer or smokebreak at work. I'm suprised as
I've come to find out just how many people still remember me, who liked me,
who were interested, but were either too afraid to let me know or to let
their usual group of friends know, for friendship or otherwise. Part of it
makes me sad that I isolated myself, but part of me is glad that I didn't
let myself get involved in friendships or more serious relationships that
would have petered out or left bad memories. Part of it is a desire to
wonder what it would be like to not be how I was and am now, and part of it
is just plain and simple control over my surroundings. I"m not a
considerate person, and fewer relations allows for fewer feelings to hurt
and be hurt, less to remember, and gives more of my love and what
consideration i have to those I keep close. most of it goes to my husband,
the rest goes to my family, but giving to too many makes me feel thin and
exhausted and fake. So I keep the numbers thin, and the love genuine.
ANd back to speaking of what is sexy, I was checking out my ass the other
day in a new pair of jeans, and somehow I've grown an massively FINE big
butt. It's badonkadonk with an extra big ONK, and it's hillarious. I'm
gonna go practice my booty shaking. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
|
Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 27/10/2004 at 01:16 PM |
Thankyou, Bettie, it's good to know I'm not alone!
Of course, I do know tons of people who married their first boy/girlfriend,
but of course they're mostly all in my old cult/church. But people who
actually stick to one person and only one person for life, without having
to be guilt-tripped into it, are incredibly rare. And of course, with my
Shmeng-ucation, I have deliberately tested my monogomatic status to make
sure it WASN'T based on lingering guilt issues. And I've just plain come
to know that I don't WANT more people to share that part of myself with.
Maybe it's that whole anti-social teenager who just sort of missed out on
the whole high-school dating thing that produces the true monogamist type.
You finally find someone you feel comfortable letting into that stockaded
core of yourself, and it's just too much bother to let anyone else in.
After all, two's company, but three's a crowd, and people like us just
don't enjoy crowds.
It's nice to know that I'm not the only freak of nature, though!
So, while I appreciate the polyamourous mindset in theory, perhaps it's
more of a lifestyle for the extroverts than for the freakishly introverted
like you and I. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
|
bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 27/10/2004 at 10:23 AM |
Schitzo, you're not the world's last mongamist, trust me. How's this story
suit you? Girl hates everyone and involves herself with nobody until she
meets someone in college, starts dating said first boyfriend, marries first
boyfriend, and has no interest in anyone but boyfriend turned husband, and
has a successful and happy relationship going on 7 years? Sounds like a
freak of nature to me, but eh, it's the story of my life ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
|
Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 27/10/2004 at 02:17 AM |
Well, wanting to get laid is perfectly natural, and if you can accomplish
it, then go for it. If it's being done with honesty and respect for
yourself and your accomplice/s, then I'm not going to be the one to look
down my nose.
Of course, I'm all talking in theory here. I'm the world's last
monogamist, and I'm not talking serial monogamist either. Although
technically, I'm allowed to have girlfriends, but there are no yummy
bi's/lesbians in my life who find me equally yummy, and even if there were,
I'm not so sure that I would actually end up acting on it. Being a
full-time working mom of a toddler, I'm lucky if schedule and energy level
allow me a little Sunday-night nookie with the hubby. There isn't room in
my life for a little fun on the side with a cuddly girl. And besides, as I
said, I'm the world's last true monogamist, and my chemistry just doesn't
seem to be reacting properly with anyone, male or female (except the
afore-mentioned hubby on a Sunday night), so I have my doubts about my
abilities to transform into bisexual sex-goddess on command. *sigh* Oh
well, it sounded fun in theory. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
|
pale-face
Fanatic Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 26/10/2004 at 06:11 PM |
icky vibe's... I hate them because they are all to common in my life. damn
people and their overwhelming desire to get laid. I wonder if they even
realize that they have abandon everything to get in bed. ____________________ fucking classy. |
|
Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 26/10/2004 at 02:02 AM |
Preach it, Bettie!
Although I'd like to add that there's an emotional pitfall to promiscuity,
too. Beyond the dangers of being stupid about protection, there's also a
danger of being so emotionally addicted to sex, that you don't feel
worthwhile if someone isn't lusting after you constantly. That's what
drives many skimpy dressers, and that's the icky vibe that people pick up
on.
Oh, and another icky vibe comes from those who would do anything to get
laid, even stab their best friend in the back.
The problem is, people pick up on these vibes, and because many of these
icky people are dressing provocatively, people project the source of the
ickiness to the clothing they wear. And then, when they see a healthy,
confident person who enjoys the beauty of themselves, and likes sex and
sexual attention in healthy doses, and is happening to be wearing something
fairly revealing, they project all those icky vibes onto that person. It's
sad, but all too common, that icky people ruin things for all the rest of
us. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
the
/>
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
|
Merry_Widow
Fanatic Posts: 598 Registered: 24/8/2002 Status: Offline
|
posted on 25/10/2004 at 10:54 PM |
I love Ms. Dolly...
"It takes a lot of money to look this cheap." ____________________ Okay, dazzle me. |
|
Moinlen_Drigenu
Member Posts: 71 Registered: 18/6/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 25/10/2004 at 09:55 PM |
sexy, and not sexy.. For a lady to be sexy she must dress, not overly
sexy, maybe a bit of skin here and there. I hate those people who were
clothes to small for them, that make their stomach flop out, real eye sore.
Something that hugs their figure is good, but not something that looks to
small. Black is a great colour for any occasion. They need to be able to
look at me and not look away all the time.
____________________ "It is said that we loose ourselves in rage, I think I find what is
missing, when it happens."
"These scars are just for show, it's the ones inside that you have to worry
about."
"When I get into a fight, all I think is..."KILL HIM"..." |
|
bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 25/10/2004 at 09:33 PM |
Pale face I'm not dogging on you at all, I'm just putting my two cents in.
Promiscuity isn't a bad thing. Most of the ideals I've heard from people
is that if a girl puts out on the first or second date, then she's a slut
regardless of dress, but if she doesn't put out on the first or second date
she's a bore, or a prude, or an ice queen.
The original problem is that promiscuity=bad. It's not, if you take care
of yourself and those you are promiscuious with. Promiscuity is only "bad"
(to me) if it's careless and endangers the partners of the person.
As for nakedness, I don't care either one way or the next. I generally
don't LIKE seeing naked people, as people are wierd-looking. But I'd
rather see a half naked and confident person than an uncomfortable one in
neck to ankles garment as any society deems.
But if you want MY opinion on straight out sex appeal, I find well dressed
"soccer-moms" with their "tasteful" yet "accidentally" revealing V-neck
sweaters and heels a LOT more appealing than half dressed teenage girls
with the latest aresenal of low ride jeans and water bras. And I find a
half naked island girl who doesn't posess the 'perfect body' most people
idealize and who doesn't CARE but who is being comfortable a LOT more sexy
than a self conscious strutting young 20 something in a "LOOK AT ME" string
bikinni and belly piercing.
I think in my opinion that sex appeal ends when whatever fashion it applies
to demands to be looked at. I like my sex appeal in the unconscious form,
thank you.
And lets bring the boys into this, shall we? To quote the memorable queen
of the bulging bustline herself Dolly Parton (in "Rhinestone"...shut up)
"what's wrong with the way I dress? When you stop wearing pants I can see
your pulse through, then you can talk." ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
|
pale-face
Fanatic Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 25/10/2004 at 03:40 PM |
I guess your all right. people can wear what they like but it's more about
their attitude that makes them promiscuous or not. please excuse my
juvenile attitude toward the subject. ____________________ fucking classy. |
|
RedQueen
Member Posts: 98 Registered: 18/10/2004 Status: Offline
|
posted on 25/10/2004 at 08:46 AM |
I agree; it's not necessarily the clothes that make someone sexy or not,
it's the attitude of the wearer. Plenty of people can be drop dead sexy
completely clothed from neck to ankle. Plenty of people who wear
"revealing" clothing aren't necessarily putting out the sex signal (kind of
like the Bat signal, only in a pinkish red?). Sexy, like beauty, is in the
eye of the ogler. ____________________ Today's liberals are tomorrow's conservatives. When my generation is the
conservatives, we'll be fine letting gays get married and creationism vs.
evolution in schools will be a laughable issue.
But by god we'll be sticking it to the damn cyborgs! |
|
Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 25/10/2004 at 02:16 AM |
How true, Feral. In my experience, it's not always the ones who wear the
least who are really looking to get the most men in their pants. In other
words, it's not the clothes, it's the mindset that makes a hooker-wannabe.
Other than that, if wearing the legal minimum of decent clothing makes
someone happy, why the hell should I care? What on earth is so offensive
about skin, anyway? Just remember, our cover-me-up, modesty based culture
isn't the only one under the sun. There are whole masses of cultures where
people ran around in their birthday suits all the live-long day, and
thought nothing of it, until the missionaries came along and taught them
shame. But if someone you meet on your street somehow manages to elude
that monster Shame, without becoming one of those pathetic creatures who
can't live with themselves if men aren't drooling all over their bodies,
then I say go for it. I wish I could. But I'm just proud of myself that
I've shaken off my super-Puritanical upbringing enough to feel comfortable
in somewhat form-fitting clothing with a touch of cleavage showing. That's
a big step for me, and I still feel most comfortable in a couple of bulky
layers. And that's not a healthy thing. I should feel comfortable
layered, and next-to-naked. Maybe I'll get there someday.
[Edited on 10/25/2004 by Schizo] ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
the
/>
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the
carefullest
/>
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
|
feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
|
posted on 24/10/2004 at 08:21 PM |
pale-face... no offence man... what this boils down to is - clothing has
nothing to do with this... you have a bit of a puritanical view on all this
it is the humanbody... it is beautiful... and if you cannot accept that...
then please... accept anyone's right to dress how they wish... an old
cliche fits here... don't judge a book by its cover... read a few pages
before you decide what's inside.... ____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist |
|