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Author: Subject: military goths

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  posted on 22/10/2003 at 06:29 PM
I hate work as much as the next person, but unfortunately for me no matter how much work drives me up the wall I don't get to quit. Plus, goth and the military doesn't seem to mix well, or not for me. Though the reactions the first time a cowork or supervisor sees me in all black with fishnets and black painted nails is priceless. Anyone else out there in the military or prior military?

 

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  posted on 22/10/2003 at 06:49 PM
prior army, how do you do? it sucked, i have been out a year and some change now, but when i was in i just kept to myself most of the time. everyone thought i was strange anyhow so it didn't matter much. i just had a hand full of friends who travelled w/ me from basic to ait to duty station. it made things easier.don't let those gung ho mo fos bring you down, they will surely try now and then.

 

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  posted on 22/10/2003 at 08:04 PM
I am in the Air Force so there isn't much gung ho around here. I am seen as strange and keep to myself. Though I don't shock people as much as I did. Now they just shake their heads at me. The hardest thing for my so far has been finding like minded individuals in the local area so I end up chatting a lot online.

 

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  posted on 22/10/2003 at 10:24 PM
I am in the Navy. Sure people think I am strange, but that is civilian too. Being stationed in San Diego is cool as far as goth people go. San Diego is average as far as cities go though. Other navy people debate with my life style and joke with me about it. Most mean no harm from it just curious about it. The "gun hos" are prosily the most curious. They see normies slacking, disrespecting, or getting kicked out for drugs. Yet the black sheep surpasses most of them. The biggest problem they have with me is my hair. I keep just within regs. If you are having those problems remember, "Perception define everyone's view of you, so give them no reason for them to perceive you as a 'shit bag'."

 

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  posted on 23/10/2003 at 04:11 AM
My apperance has to be the big shocker. You see my in uniform and how I normally act in your inform and compare it how I look out of uniform. It is like ying and yang. Sharp troop awards, letters of appreciation, letters of recognition, top performer award. Then they see me out of uniform. At my last base I was close to where I grew up so I was asked a couple times if I had a twin.

 

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  posted on 23/10/2003 at 09:04 AM
like your pixs. they are excellent. i understand about the chatting online thing. it keeps you going when things slow down around you. i recently moved to alabama this year, my husband's stationed here for a couple of years, needless to say i live in bubbaville. so i entered shmeng, and usually end up arguing over some political issue, not really productive but enough to vent a little bit.

 

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  posted on 23/10/2003 at 04:23 PM
There are not goths in the military...nor are there actually ANY goths...for that matter, I'm pretty sure the military doesn't really exist either.
But seriously folks.

What you do off duty is always your own business, just don't wear eyeliner when your standing watch.

 

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  posted on 23/10/2003 at 04:37 PM
quote:
like your pixs. they are excellent. i understand about the chatting online thing. it keeps you going when things slow down around you. i recently moved to alabama this year, my husband's stationed here for a couple of years, needless to say i live in bubbaville. so i entered shmeng, and usually end up arguing over some political issue, not really productive but enough to vent a little bit.


Thanks for the compliment.

Online is the one of the only things I have now that I am in Korea. But I less than a year left and then off the Tokyo.

 

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  posted on 23/10/2003 at 04:50 PM
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There are not goths in the military...nor are there actually ANY goths...for that matter, I'm pretty sure the military doesn't really exist either.
But seriously folks.

What you do off duty is always your own business, just don't wear eyeliner when your standing watch.


That's right. No Goths. No military. I am a figment of everyone's imagination.

 

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  posted on 5/8/2004 at 10:09 AM
I almost got in the Brazilliam Air Force... Im pretty good at the simulators, but I decided continue with art stuff. Nowadays Im ummployed and Im looking for some job... i need study, its my obssession!
I love aircrafts, specially the russian SU-37 and the N-American F-15, but my passion really is the SU-37.
Theres goth militaries!! If I where not studying art, I would be a dog fighter... thats my second love... aircrafts.

 

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  posted on 5/8/2004 at 10:47 AM
No... there are military goths... militaries would be ARMIES of them...

 

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  posted on 1/10/2004 at 09:24 PM
I as well enjoyed your photography. but as far as the military air force or otherwise is concerned. I live in Canada, I dont trust our equipment enough to live around it.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2004 at 07:50 AM
anyone STUPID enough to join the military deserves everything they get, from the long hours, to the harsh regimes to the shock of their peers when it is discovered that you arent the same person out of uniform.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2004 at 08:28 AM
Yeah, and I hope that you get everything you deserve for any and all stupid decisions you've made in your life.

And I'll make sure to tell my cousin in Iraq how stupid you think he is for joining the military instead of sticking around his old high school friends and becoming a criminal or a drug addict with them. Yeah, that was really dumb. He sure deserves to be shot at and live in a desert. Gotta love the just deserts of a fatherless teenager trying to keep his life straight. But of course, you know enough about every military person's life to judge for them what is a smart or stupid decision. How omniscient of you.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2004 at 08:47 AM
valid reasons for joining the us military.

1) Full ride to college - gi bill
2) on the job training with a FUCKING AWESOME RETIREMENT PLAN
3) a chance to get out of the low income part of the spectrum
4) because, no matter how this country sucks... we are free... and freedom has a price...

Worm... if you live in the united states... then fuck you man... i bled for your right of speech... when the weather changes, i weep because my shoulder (bulet wound) feels like something out of the movie aliens... you may not like what the government does, but without people willing to fight for your ass, you would be nothing more than another speed bump on the M5... so, at the very least show some respect for those people that continue to give the right...

 

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  posted on 3/10/2004 at 04:23 AM
I think the chap is British, but the same applies for him, because there are hundreds and thousands of soldiers who are now dead or war veterans with old wounds and horrible memories who kept his precious self from having to learn the goosestep. Stupid military people - they deserved all they got, too, right?

Be it judgemental or just plain trollish, I'd challenge him to say those words to a WWII vet.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2004 at 05:45 AM
the WWII vets are starting to slow down. But the Korean vets are still teitchy, and so are the Vietnam vets.
But the Gulf war vets, well they are ready to explode at a moments notice. They didnt get to drink during thier war. And they had CNN up thier ass the whole time.

And sure, they those dumb enough to enlist get what they get... medical coverage (even if it is scary and occationally employees leaches), a steady paycheck (even if it is lower than they might have maybe been able to make in some other job), the risk of life and limb (and having to risk other peoples lives and limbs), the sense of community (and the sense of not belonging, even if that is baggage), the bad backs (and the better physical condition that tends to go with it), the GI bill (or the medical discharge), athletes foot (and free condoms), long boring watches and short periods of excitement (which is sooo much different from long periods of excitment and short periods of boredom). And a uniform that will get them laid in the right bars.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2004 at 09:17 AM
That uniform thing works for the guys, at least... the female uniforms don't really do much to improve our appearance.

 

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  posted on 5/10/2004 at 03:05 AM
Anyone heard of conscription? Many of those people who died 'for me' or got injured 'for me' were forced to.
and i did say EVERYTHING they get. so they do deserve their paycheck and their medical cover.
it is a shame that some people see the military as the only way. presumably librarys arent open anymore so its not possible to manage a decent education?
and schizo. i am no hypocrite. find me a war veteran who chose to do what they did and i will say anything to them that i would here. and i suspect that they would retaliate with the threat of physical violence. paid killers by choice.
i have got plenty for my poor decisions, though not as a direct result. must be karma or something.

 

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  posted on 5/10/2004 at 03:29 AM
Not trying to pick a fight here, feral, but I don't have to respect our dipshits in uniform if I don't want to... and frankly, I'm getting a bit fed-up with the whole "Land of the Free" cock-and-bull tagline as well. You're argument here is the same as that of those who oppose flag-burning... "This land represents FREEDOM! So here's what you can and can not do with the flag!" I'm living in what is technically a police state at the moment in a country that is still technically at war, and I feel I have many more civil liberties here than I did in the States... or at least everyone isn't always trying so desperately to remind me how many "freedoms" I have (if it's so damned obvious, why do you keep having to remind everyone every two minutes?)

Mostly, though, it's one thing to be a US service member overseas (and I know you were, so don't get defensive) and it's quite another to have to deal with the bastards. Yeah, American GI's see one picture, but I can tell you that they are UNIVERSALLY loathed by everyone else... and I have yet to find an American civilian living here that doesn't hate American GI's along with everyone else.

I don't care if a knuckle dragger looks good in a uniform... I most certainly do not have to respect them.

~M.

 

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