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Author: Subject: Stealth Goth Movies

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  posted on 28/10/2003 at 02:18 PM
I've just been noticing that I've seen all the good movies. So in order to get some new movie suggestions and to have a little fun, I propose a game.

The game is called "Stealth Gothic Movies" - the format is:

1) Part one Tells why it's goth
2) Part two Tells why other movies like it aren't

The rules are:

No typical goth movies. "Gothic" would be a good example of a movie that's not stealthy - also anything involving anne rice or vampires would be bad.

Off topic posts will be deleted to keep the game going. If you comment on a previous post, make sure you include a movie in yours.

Here's examples of the format you should use:
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Serpent and the Rainbow

1) Zombies and dead folks walking around.
2) Other movies about zombies and dead folks walking around aren't true stories.


Harold and Maude

1) Harold dies more than most main characters. The car.
2) Other movies don't break nearly as many taboos even now. Also, when this one was made, Siouxie was only 14.

[Edited on 10/29/2003 by Devin]

 

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  posted on 28/10/2003 at 08:11 PM
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

1) It's set in China and features a fabulous sword
2) It's not afriad to have the perfect ending.

American Psycho
1) Yuppies can be dangerous, too.
2) Yuppies can be dangerous, too.

 

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  posted on 28/10/2003 at 10:43 PM
Infested

1) It's got zombies powered by photophobic flies, and flies eat deat things
2) It's got Amy Jo Johnson (The Pink Ranger) in a shower scene, followed by frantic running in a towel!

Death Race 2000

1) David Carradine's character dresses in head to toe black leather and zippers
2) Mathilda the Hun, the lovable Nazi lass...

 

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  posted on 28/10/2003 at 11:18 PM
Why's everyone putting two movies each? Do we have to?
(I can only think of one right now, sorry...)

Gattica

1)Story about guy pretending to be someone else, in an attempt to show them that he (a second-class citizen) can be just as good as society's perfect humans.
2)Kickass futuristic-but-1930s look to it.
3)Its got a cute blonde chick that dresses in black. (need I say more? )

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 12:33 AM
Eyes wide shut

1) Because the last word in the movie is "Fuck" - because EVERYONE gets laid but the main character - Because everyone gets laid in interesting ways - because Kubrick managed to have a reasonably graphic gothic orgy scene and still get it an R rating.
2) Other directors don't have the balls to get their characters laid as interestingly as Kubrick

Heavenly Creatures

1) Cuz kate winslet is a lesbian (sorta). Cuz the relationships are complex. Cuz Makebelieve land is goth as fuck. Cuz it's psycho and pretty at the same time.
2) Other movies don't remind you of borderline psychos you know nearly as much as this one unless you need more interesting friends.

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 01:55 AM
Labyrinth
1-David Bowie as a villian with a muppetly-correct wardrobe that is still slick as ever (above the waist anyway). Jennifer Connelly as an angsty whiney teenager. The ballroom scene.
2-muppets

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 01:43 PM
dark city
1) it is a place where people are forced to live in perpetual darkness and their existence is manipulated as if they were puppets every night while they sleep.
2)the story line is pretty philisophic for an alien movie.it is quite deep.

[Edited on 29/10/2003 by ariadne]

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 03:15 PM
Santa Sangre

1. It is about one man's decent into madness. There is a character who wears a black tutu with white face paint. An elephant dies, and you will cry. It was co-written by Dario Argento's brother. It features a cult. The colors in it are all beutiful. The main characters are a tattoed woman, a bunch of clowns, a knife thrower, and guy whose relationship with his mother puts Norman Bates to shame. Because the ending is truly sad and happy at the same time, which is rare in any type of movie.

2. There are no other movies like it, at least that I have yet to see.

Get the NC-17 version if you can find it, but in a pinch R will do.

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 04:57 PM
Momento

1) The main character has no short term memeory whatsoever due to a head injury. The last thing he can remember is watching his wife die. He tattoos important facts on himself as he hunts down her killer and goes through all sorts of emotional ups and downs.

2) Chronologically, the movie goes backwards. You see the ending, then they show you how it got there.

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 05:11 PM
Santa Sangre - Damm - i'd totally forgotten about that movie. It was psycho. Like more psycho than 'Psycho'. Damm Damm Damm... Yea, there's not really any other movies like it.


Titus

1) Because everybody dies. Even the good guys. Extremely Brutally. And then even worse stuff happens to them. When shakespeare writes a tragedy, he doesn't fuck around.
2) There are no other movies like this because most film versions of Shakespeare plays aren't graphic (romeo and juliet for instance). Nothing that was written specifically for film would dare be this graphic and wicked 'cause the writers would be worried about getting it produced. Plus nowdays, most writers seem to think that once the good guys are done killing the bad guys that enough is enough - and that there's no need for them to go killing the bad guys parents, or children, or their own children, and friends, and pets, or themselves.... And if they do, they certainly aren't good enough at it to make the viewer think it was all justified.

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 07:03 PM
Tattoo (circa 1981)

(1) The main character Karl is a tattoo artist, who is former military, a loner, obsessive, and seemingly quite insane. He steals away the object of his obsession, Maddy, who is a model and very untattooed. While she's drugged, he tattoos her with a full-back style tattoo. When she came to...well she didn't like that so much.

(2) Haven't seen any other movies with the whole plot surrounding really cool Asian style tattoos.


[Edited on 10/30/2003 by Starlight]

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 08:55 PM
hmm...
Crime and Punishment in Suburbia:
1. A new strange boy in town. A girl who's family goes to the craper. A love thats meant to be.
2. Some good artistic shots.

 

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  posted on 29/10/2003 at 08:57 PM
Man, Titus was a fantastically disturbing movie, and does Shakespeare ever know how to kick some serious ass. That was one of the darkest goriest love/bloodbath fests I've ever seen, and I was so disturbed I don't know if I could ever watch it again.

Needless to say I thought about this all night last night.

The Grifters

1. It has John Cusack as the worlds best short con man. It has a big Oedipal complex and lots of good advice for the future short con artists of America. Not to mention explaining about the oranges.
2. It has Angelica Houston as a blonde bombshell, and I for one haven't seen that anywhere else.

The Piano

1. It's a period piece about a Scottish woman being wed to someone she's never met. It's highly erotic, has fantastic scenery and the music will make you laugh cry and orgasm all at the same time. It's obsession and love and violence, slavery and freedom.
2. The main character doesn't say a word during the film and expresses herself completely through music.

Dangerous Liaisons

1. Fantastic costums and some of the most strategic fucking imaginable, all planned of course, as a stage in the downfall of others; well planned, and with a real sense of revenge.
2. John Malkovich doing slapstick.

Dancer in the Dark

1. It's a bitter and crushing view of America, immigration, health care, and the justice system. It is a no holds bare attack on the politics of yesterday and today. It's beautiful. It is also the only time I've been to the theater and told I would not be given my money back if I got sick while watching it.
2. It's a musical about a blind factory worker cum murder, and all the music is by Bjork.

Dogville

1. Another real stab at the American class system this movie has so much in it I don't know where to begin. It's essentially a play, as it has nothing but a black box set with minor props. It's graphic description of violence, rape, and death will make you squirm in your seat. It turns on intellectuals, the poor, the rich, and those with pretended beliefs. In the end everyone becomes what they are the most opposed to. It will teach you the true nature of Stoicism.

2. Nicole Kidman as a slave to an entire town, complete with a leash and weighted chains; learning that the ideals one has can become very different when faced with reality.

Todo Sobre mi Madre

1. Set in Madrid a story that revolves around a person killed in the first ten minutes of the film, an obsession with women of all ages and walks of life, and Tennessee Williams. Plus its a foreign film for god sakes.
2. Some of the most interesting takes of transsexual prostitution ever put to a film that has actually won an Oscar.

Ran

1. A Japanese version of King Lear in which everyone is killed and in which you feel that almost all the deaths are entirely justified. A horrific battle scene featuring soldiers with spears, swords, and horses that is more graphic and wrenching than anything a modern director had down. Deception, betrayal, and deceit, and only the Court Jester is really aware of what is going on.
2. An ending that will fill you with loneliness and a complete despair for mankind and yourself.

If I really start going with the foreign films we might be here all day, but just one more:

Lenigrad Cowboys go to America

1. A fantastically funny take on enterprising entrepreneurs, including a classic road trip, the discovery of a long lost cousin, and a beer drinking corpse.
2. The Lenigrad Cowboys.




[Edited on 10/30/2003 by Domkitten]

 

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  posted on 30/10/2003 at 01:01 AM
They Live

*it's john carpenter, and it's got an evil plot that is exposed when Roudy Roddy Piper of WWF fame finds super secret sunglasses that allows him to see past the human exterior to the zombie like mind rulers beneath as well as the subliminal signs behind advertisements that say "obey" "sleep" and "marry and reproduce". Evil subliminal zombie plots are TRES goth, friends.

*beause nobody else could turn a ridiculous plot like that into a watchable movie. And come on...it's Roddy Piper...Plus, who else would put a 20 min fight sequence into a film that doesn't involve explosives?

 

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  posted on 30/10/2003 at 09:17 AM
Coligula

Malcolm McDowell (of Clockwork ORange) as a psychotic Roman Emperor, in elaborate leather costumes (mostly too short) and with a hefty need for blood shed. You get the gambit here people:

Leather
Torture
Gigantic Head cleaving execution devices
Deformed freaks of nature
Hard core sex
Orgasms set to classical music
Rape
Bondage
A period piece
Out of control Roman pyscotics who commands his armies to cut down field of reeds for fun
Tons of black lace
Blood everywhere

This flick was produced by PentHouse productions, so the sex is uber liberal and highly prevalent, but dude, its the Roman empire, and he's a crazy Roman Nympho who screw his own sister and marries the biggest whore in all of Rome. It's also very hard to find, but it's probably the only time Pornographic thmes where mixed with an actual plot and it works.

(best scene) Solving the Roman deficit by mating the biggest whore in rome=Senators wives. with his opinion of who the richest in Rome are=pimps.

Imperial orgy! 5 gold pieces and you get a senators wife! Genius.

 

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  posted on 30/10/2003 at 09:41 AM
titus - yeah that is a great movie and beautifully done , not done in the traditional shakespearean style either, titus is placed in no definite timeframe, that is the beauty of shakespeare there is no set time or era for any of his plays. titus is so brutal and tragic and anthony hopkins kicked some royal ass in that one.

anyhow,
the company of wolves
1) if you like little red riding hood and old wives tales set in motion, it is beautifully done with a dreamlike quality, shall we say sublime?
2)aside from the cheesy special effects it is still a very beautiful movie to watch, it is kind of surreal in its own way.

2 ingmar bergman films

first, the virgin spring
1) it is about a young maiden venturing out in her finest apparel to a religious event revering the virgin mary, on her way she is brutally raped and murdered by vagabonds she meets along the way. later these same vagabonds seek shelter with a family and offer to pay w/ the girl's clothes, they came to the wrong house.
2)it is an old movie, i believe made in the 1930's or 40's and it is very rare to find such a violent movie filled with all the brutality and revenge in graphic detail in the time frame in which the film was made. it can be found in the foreign film section, if you don't mind subtitles i highly recommend this flick.

second, the seventh seal
1)the main character is challenged by death to a game of chess , every where the man goes death is waiting, he is playing for his own life.
2)never seen anything like it, talk about death being at one's elbow, i will not tell you who wins

[Edited on 30/10/2003 by ariadne]

 

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 10:30 PM
Snow White - A Tale of Terror

1. With fantastic acting, scenery and direction, beautiful music, and that extra creepy sense of being alone in a big dark castle, stuck with your evil stepmother, this film is beautiful and grotesque at the same time. Some really intense and gorey scenes, including some mutant baby stuff that can really turn your stomach.

2. A retelling of a children's fairy tale that is a hell of a lot closer to reality than one would expect to see in a film.

Alien, Aliens, Alien3 and Alien Resurrection

1. Science fiction mixed with the bloody slaughter of the entire cast on a regular basis. And none of them get laid or even have time to take off their clothes before they are masacred, which is really avant garde.

A kick-ass "take no prisoners" babe that manages to survive the incompetance of everyone around her and still come back kicking. Sets based on the art work of Giger that play on some of the darkest workings of your imagination and dreams.

2. An acid for blood alien with two mouths, teeth till next week and a really bad temper.

 

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 10:44 PM
Little Red Riding Hood... the one starring Christina Ricci. It's a black and white short, but will fuck you up forever as far as that story goes.

Gets into every sexual fetish imaginable, cross-dressing, cannibalism, coprophilia... you name it. And it's pretty.

Moulin Rouge. The principles of the bohemien Lost Generation are the same as the goths of today. Beauty, Truth, Freedom and above all things, Love. and the heroine dies just as love is reconciled.


The Princess Bride. A Man in Black, action, adventure, swordplay, a fire-swamp with R.O.U.S., beautiful maiden, and True Love. everything a growing child needs to have faith in the good things in life restored.

 

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Snow White: A tale of Terror
1. The story is not at all like your average fairy tale it is beatifully done grotesque in some places but yet a story to make you think. The plot is well written and the story ends in a unique way. The clothes are gorgeous, well crafted.

2. A tale made realistic yet done is a beatiful fashion.

 

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Cold Comfort Farm:

1) The story was written to mimic and satorize the gothic novel. Everyone is gloomy, insane, or both. The farm is called Cold Comfort, and the family memebers arent allowed to go to any public gathering except funerals and the churching of women.

2) This has a sense of humour about the story itself AND the making of that story into a movie. And everyone ends up happy in the end unlike most movie versions of old books.

 

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