callei
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posted on 24/4/2004 at 11:42 AM |
| I think pimping would be under either "Hopitality Management" or "Sales",
one you can get a degree in, the other you just have to learn like any
other trade. Altho entrepreneurial classes would help either way I'm sure.
and i think a mere "pimp" would be more in the sales line while being a
"Madame" would need a degree. maybe i too have thought about it too long ____________________
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Zero
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posted on 24/4/2004 at 09:27 AM |
ok so i was in my own little world at work yesturday and this started
running through my head....
i'm wondering about the education system.....what if you could REALLY get
your PHD (Pimpin Ho's degree)? i mean who wouldn't show up to that class
early? the hoes (male, female or otherwise) would have to take special
classes on the art of screwin'...i've obviously thought about this way too
much...i'm thinking of the boom in education and hearing "pimp" to be the
top profession if the legalization of prostitution ever comes into
effect....i can hear my future son saying "when i grow up i wanna be a
pimp" and i can hear me saying "son, you can grow up to be anything you
want....now let me showyou how to smack a Ho"....these moments, between
father and son, are priceless.
about smoking....i hate those Truth ads....they sound as if the whole
tobacco industry is evil....well half of my family worked at RJR...they're
not evil they're good people..i'm glad cigerettes can be bought and sold
otherwise poeple alot of people would be out of jobs (and i am aware that
Phillip Moreis is a sponsor of those commercials)..those poeple that work
in those factories seem to be the ones that are forgotten when people talk
about "big tobacco"..(side note: my grandfather died of brain cancer, from
smoking, i bet) i have mad respect for the smokers, slowly killing
themselves so my relatives and other peoples families can feed
themselves...do you really want to live to like 70, anyway?? ____________________
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Anya
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posted on 24/4/2004 at 07:38 AM |
quote:
Oh, and zero I wasn't
yelling at you. I just don't believe in protecting people from themselves,
it frees up their responsibility to the situations they creat for
themselves. It's like people who want to sue fast food joints for making
them fat, or people who smoke who blame the cigarette industry for
emphysema (i'm sorry, but if you don't know smoking will kill by now you
then your head is up your butt.)
Bettie, you hit the target perfectly. I'm whole-heartedly behind you on
encouraging personal responsibility. I'm sick and tired of all the legal
issues that're preventing the stupid people from killing their selves over,
if that makes any sense. If people are going to be stupid, they're going
to be stupid. Prostitution personally sickens me. Drugs are a big no-no
to me. However, if anyone else wants to do those two acts, then it's their
fault as well as responsibility if they come up with problems (reputations,
health issues, etc).
For the many people who tried to sue the cigarette company, it's been years
and years since people have discovered how cigarettes are not "safe." It's
only been thirty or forty (not sure how long ago) years since there's been
labels on the packaging. So, why should they have the right to sue someone
for their own doing? No offense to smokers - I have friends who smoke and
that's their deal. I don't do it, but as I said before, if people want to
smoke, they can go for it. I think the lawsuits and/or attempts to sue the
cigarette company are ridiculous.
I would feel the same if prostitution was legalized. If people screw
another without checking for STD's (I'd hope such a system was around when
the act is legalised, but assuming the system isn't there)...that's their
fault unless the pimp falsely advertised.
[Edited on 4/24/2004 by Anya]
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callei
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posted on 24/4/2004 at 06:32 AM |
| how many happy woman have you met? ____________________
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Dolorosa
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posted on 23/4/2004 at 10:38 PM |
Alright, thats a pretty decent counter, but I've never been there, and I
seriously hesitate to believe something I've only seen about on TV,
So I'll have to reiterate my statement a lil' better...I, in my personal
experiance, have never met a happy prostitute, of any type. But hey...I
could be wrong, and prolly am. ____________________
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bettie_x
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posted on 23/4/2004 at 10:19 AM |
Dude, did you ever watch the documentary on the bunny ranch? THOSE are
some happy hookers. They even have the "hooker of the year awards" within
the ranch, where the girl who had the most customer compliments and
requests got a 10,000 bonus check and a trip to hawaii. Most of those
girls LEFT "regular" careers for the bunny ranch because of the money, and
because they love sex. I'm assuming most of the girls you've met are
unhappy AND hookers because they were unhappy before, and because being an
ILLEGAL hooker sucks. The bunny ranch has panic buttons in every girl's
own private room, they get paid WELL, they're constantly tested for STD's,
no sex without protection, drug tests for them and no "impaired" guests,
they have health insurance, and are treated like PEOPLE. Illegal hookers
have it shitty.
Also in Nevada prostitution is illegal within city limits, and it's illegal
to prostitute outside of an establishment ie: no streetwalking. It keeps
it out of the main drag where the tourists are, and it keeps girls off the
street.
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Dolorosa
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 09:32 PM |
You know, most of the prostitutes I've known have been profoundly unhappy
people...there was something just plain missing in thei smiles, I've known
a couple girls, and they just seemd...fucking sad. I for one think i should
be legal...mebbe those girl's lives would be made just that much
easier...or boys for that matter.
Prostitution may be hailed as the oldest job in history, but it's also one
of the most damaging, I'm not being all hoity-toity about this
either...find me a happy hooker, seriously.
I'm pretty much with Feral on victimless crimes shouldn't even be
crimes...
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Starlight
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 07:51 PM |
| Oh boy, now I've got a whole slew of questions popping into my head
regarding what would qualify as an "on the job" injury if prostitution is
legalized. Will a man get to claim permanent disability and collect social
security if, for instance, he can no longer get an erection? Will groin
pulls give you some paid time off? Will a birth control failure result in
the employer being financially responsible for the child's upbringing? Will
P.M.S. be a reason to call off from work? ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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Meranda_Jade
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 07:10 PM |
Zero, you always twist things in the right way. This is why I like you.
btw, if male prostitution were legal, you can bet I'd be a supporter of
that. Imagine, girls... they're always good in bed, a guaranteed orgasm,
and with no pesky issues to worry about. It beats the hell out of trying to
figure out who looks like the most housebroken guy at the bar... ____________________
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Zero
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 posted on 22/4/2004 at 06:00 PM |
hmm...could you imagine...it's one of those lonely nights and you need a
BJ.... your partner on the other hand..isn't in the mood...so he/she hands
you a coupon for the drive thru at "hooker king"...."may i take your order"
the drive thru worker says....you say "umm yeah, i would like my 'salad
tossed" .......the reply: "would you like anal with that?"
[Edited on 23/4/2004 by Zero] ____________________
"It is a fool's prerogative to utter truths that no one else will speak."
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The Sandman, Dream Country
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Anya
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 02:55 PM |
Though it's a disturbing fact, I suppose it can be looked at as positive on
the scale: in California, you can sue for anything. It's Sue Capitol.
That's why there's so many lawyers here.
Hells, the lady who wrecked my bike was afraid that I'd sue her (I think I
should but I almost understand why she backed out of our deal)...but I was
above that.
Ah...I could see it when prostitution is legalised (epecially in
California)...a woman will get laid, then blame her sterililty on the
juggalo's "roughness."
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Zero
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 01:20 PM |
i think you underestimate the power of attorney.....lol
we've all heard of strange cases in the courts like the poeple who sue the
fast food companies for making them fat (that reminds me burger king owes
me money 
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so i can actually see someone sueing all of woman kind...and i would too
if i weren't able to find work as a hooker because of my gender
[Edited on 22/4/2004 by Zero] ____________________
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Shade
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 01:13 PM |
| I can see the lawsuits happening if the bordello opens as an equal
opportunity employer and then refuses to hire any men, but chances are the
men would be hired as bouncers and the like and there would be bordellos
that catered to the crowds that want men. In a more general sense, who
would a man sue if he wasn't getting hired to have sex with people? It's
not like they could sue womankind in general. ____________________
It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of religion.
-Me
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Zero
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 01:00 PM |
ya know i've always wondered about male prostitution...i mean there doesn't
seem to be a lot of women willing to pay for sex..at least from the male
prostitutes...and there are so few too...besides men seem to be the main
customers of the industry and not alot of them are buying from the men
either....i sense sexual descrimination lawsuits getting filed if this ever
becomes a reality.
(my cousin says the more money a man has the freakier he is in bed.)
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Shade
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 10:06 AM |
"Blue hair special on aisle five folks, come down to (fuc)K-Mart where the
girls are always clean and the sex is always affordable!" They may not have
the most skilled girls, or maybe the girls are a little too old for the
glamour houses, bu the reality is that with any kind of legal enterprise,
even more people will come out of the wood work to sell the cheap as feck
version. Just think, Martha Stewart could be their spokesbitch, "You all
hate me and wouldn't actually want to fuck me unless I was paying you, but
when you get desperate, you'll come to (fuc)K-Mart, oh yes you will,
because we own twelve percent of your soul!"
Just about everything that can be done is currently being done legally and
illegally, but when you get right down to it, the ones who are doing it
legally will have greater recourse to the law if they get ripped off. They
will be tax payers so the law will have an obligation to protect them. With
the legalization of prostitution, the hidden nature would still be there,
but the illegality would be gone which would make the prostitutes citizens
and as such it would be less tempting to psychos who are out looking to
kill someone who (to the system) doesn't exist. Also, the houses would be
better organized, the cost of VD testing could be spread out over a greater
number of sex workers and the test supplies could be purchased in bulk so
the risk of disease spreading through hired sex would be lessened.
As far as infidelity goes, I agree with most on here who have said that
it's going to happen or it's not. In this case it may be that more husbands
who would normally go out for a bit on the side may end up finding out just
how understanding there wives are when they receive a three free hours at
the local cat house gift cert from the wife who doesn't care where he
sticks his dick just so long as his heart stays with her.
To poke the infidelity thing a bit more, as a personal deifinition, I
count infidelity or cheating (I ike to lump them together for the sake of
ease) as sharing something that you have promised to only share with
certain people. If you promise to fuck but not love then you are stupid,
but if you promise to fuck but not sleep with and you sleep with the bit on
the side then it's cheating, if you promise to not sleep with and you do,
that's cheating, if you promise to stop if you find an emotional
attachement forming and you do not stop, then that is cheating.
As far as would I go hire a prostitue? Yeah probably, for the same reason I
would run out and buy a pack of pot cigarettes if they ever become legal,
it would be neat and I would like to support the legalization efforts. Now
taking into consideration the fact that I have on occassion found myself in
a hotel, just hours from Carson City (The place to go for legal
prostitution in the US) and not gone and gotten myself laid probably speaks
to the fact that I wouldn't neccessarily run out and hire the nearest girl.
That and more importantly the fact that I certainly wouldn't be hiring one
out of any need.
I fully support any man or woman's ability to control their bodies whether
through permanent tattoos, body piercing, elective sterilization, abortion,
prostitution, fast food, or any number of other things a person can do with
the flesh sacks we motivate while living here on this planet. If someone
wants to sell their ability to make my body go POP, more power to them,
it's not only the hardest profession, but to do it well, it may be the
ahrdest profession. And to any and all who have managed to do their thing
despite it being illegal, you have my deepest respect.
(And a little jealousy, I wanted to grow up to be a gigolo when I was a
teenager) ____________________
It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness
with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of
religion.
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Zero
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 09:30 AM |
ok, i figured this much would happen when i mentioned infidelity, but i
really mentioned that as a joke...btw, living in NC our jobs come from the
tobacco industry so i'm all for smoking... i'm just against cancer....
ok, infidelity only occures when two(or more) people have agreed on having
a monogamous relationship between those individuals in the
relationship...does that sound right??
ok maybe this then...two people agree to have sex (i'm sure i'm gonna have
to explain what kind of sex i mean) only with each other and no one
else.... when one cheats ...that's infidelity...
oh and bettie i didn't take your comments as yelling...i just feel that i
have to put warnings on my posts so that no one gets the wrong idea of
where i'm comming from.
btw, i could see a drop in the spread of std's...but still i bet that the
product sold on the streets (much like burned CD's) will still be sold
cheaply...you know for the guy on a budget...and i'm sure that these
hypothetical bordellos would start to turn away certain girls...thus these
same girls will still end up on the streets selling themselves...and would
still be beaten and abused...i figure it will be safe for some but the rest
will just have to deal.
(someone had to take the other side....otherwise there would be no real
discussion) ____________________
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speak."
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bettie_x
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posted on 22/4/2004 at 08:48 AM |
Oh, and zero I wasn't yelling at you. I just don't believe in protecting
people from themselves, it frees up their responsibility to the situations
they creat for themselves. It's like people who want to sue fast food
joints for making them fat, or people who smoke who blame the cigarette
industry for emphysema (i'm sorry, but if you don't know smoking will kill
by now you then your head is up your butt.)
Dog will hunt, junkies will shoot up, and if a spouse is going to cheat,
they're going to cheat. Fortunately I didn't marry a guy who'd do that to
me, and I'd rather cut out my eyeballs than do that to HIM.
[Edited on 4/22/2004 by bettie_x] ____________________
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 21/4/2004 at 11:15 PM |
| Okay, Zero, you brought it up. What is your definition of infedelity? ____________________
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bettie_x
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posted on 21/4/2004 at 11:10 PM |
| Zero, same with the drug problem, the issues ALREADY exist, all your doing
is limiting the damage to the parties involved in rather "harmless" acts
that they would be doing anyway. If someone is going to cheat, they're
going to cheat. If someone wants to do drugs, they'll find drugs. They'll
either pick up someone at a bar for the price of a pitcher of beer or find
the local bordello and pick one up for a hell of a lot more money. They're
more likely to find trouble and disease with the pitcher of beer partner
than they are a liscenced and regulated individual in a work enviroment.
And the liscenced regulated worker isn't as likely to call and harass you
at home where your family is, nor likely to show up pregnant and wanting
you in their life, and your family out of yours, after a one night stand.
Infidelity won't skyrocket, and honestly who's problem is that? The sex
worker or the person that refuses to leave or deal with an unhappy
relationship and goes to the sex worker in secret? Where is the personal
responsibility on behalf of the "cheater"? Are we to believe that the
human mind is so weak and venerable that by simply legalising a profession
that already exists will result in a mad rush to the hooker's crib? That
husbands and wives will leave their spouses en masse simply because they
won't get "busted"? If the only reason that these people don't cheat on
their spouses with a professional is a fear of jail or getting caught, then
what does that say about their relationship to begin with? Prostitution
won't change the fact that there are people with infedelity on their minds,
people with open relationships, and people who'd rather pay a professional
than spend a night trying to convince a drunk frat girl to take her pants
off. It just makes the transaction legal, as it should be. ____________________
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Anya
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posted on 21/4/2004 at 06:44 PM |
As disgusting as the reality of marriages are, I have to agree with Callei
on this. Sure you should love the person you marry, but as I mentioned in
one of these threads before, a long-term marriage isn't based on love -
it's based on work and financial stability. There's going to be many
people that you will grow to love, but many of those people are not going
to be proper marriage partners for you.
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