Schizo
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posted on 2/5/2004 at 06:21 PM |
I know a lot of you have"the skill". I need anyone who is willing and
able, and who knows me and my problems with my fiance's ex to help me. The
poison is growing, and about to break. She just came to our house to pick
up the kids (late, of course), and when complaint was made about her
lateness, turned on us, yelling at us and pointing fingers, and in general
deliberately spreading the worst vibes possible into my home. This girl
knows enough of what she is doing to be at least a little dangerous, and
desperately wants to see us destroyed and humbled. I have spent the last
four years studying her, trying to find justification for her behavior,
because I don't like to turn on anyone if I don't have to, but she has made
it obvious that just sitting and letting things go will lead me nowhere
good. And her destruction does not restrict itself to us, but to anyone
who does not give her everything she thinks she deserves.
I need a network of people to support me in the sending back of all the
evil she is sending towards me, and to teach her a good solid lesson about
messing with people. I would take legal means, but unfortunately that's
been tried to no avail. But fortunately I know that there are other ways
of dealing justice.
All I ask is that anyone helping me keep in mind that there are children
tied up in the mess, and while strong measures are called for, they must be
carefully controlled measures.
Anyone who would like to help can send me a private message, and I will
help them obtain any information they may need to do what they plan, maybe
even supplies if necessary (for those who need a physical link, I have
handwriting, and a few precious strands of hair if nothing else will
do.)
And anyone who does not feel comfortable taking this type of action but
would like to support me by strengthening me instead of weakening her, that
would also be appreciated.
I have been patient, very patient, but I have had enough. The time has
come for action. Let's take care of this mess. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/5/2004 at 10:14 PM |
It's the personal use of force of directed will. That's about it. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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Zero
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posted on 10/5/2004 at 08:10 PM |
all this talk about magic and vibes and stuff has really got me
interested...i would like to know more about this...but i don't know what
questions to ask.....anyone wanna fill me in??
(....genuine curiosity....)
[Edited on 11/5/2004 by Zero] ____________________ "It is a fool's prerogative to utter truths that no one else will speak." ~
The Sandman, Dream Country |
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bettie_x
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posted on 10/5/2004 at 10:50 AM |
Yup, no such thing as a free lunch. If you don't pay for it in then end
someone else will, unless you had a terrible lunch and you're getting a new
one or getting a "refund".
This is equivalent to schitz's situation. Her's is the mental equivalent
of this girl giving her food poisoning and going back to demand a refund. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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Anya
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posted on 8/5/2004 at 01:03 PM |
Thoughts on the Three-Fold dope: I concur with bettie. Do not get me
wrong, I believe in fate by action (AKA reap what you sow, Karma, etc), but
not the Three-fold Law or anything like that. If the Three-fold Law really
existed, in my opinion, I would be killed countless times over for all the
meat I ate in my life, every bug that I squished, every single bacterium
that died from me, and every ant I poisoned for getting near my stuff.
*snickers* None of that is happening for all I know, so there we go...no
three-fold blow.
I also fully agree on the black/white magick thing that she has mentioned.
No matter what goodies you get, someone else pays the price. "It may be
free to you, but somebody else is paying for it." (Anton LaVey) Even if
Schizo didn't "harm" the girl, the girl would be screwed over for the sheer
fact that 1) she has issues 2) if Schizo warded herself, the girl can't
hurt her and/or whatnot. Am I making any sense here?
Let's face it, we're harming things by just living. Our existance costs
the life of something...even as simple as a plant or bacteria. To truly
"harm none" is to be dead...even then, maybe your corpse is killing
something in some other way.
Maybe I am thinking too much about this......
Anyway Schizo, I'll send you a spell just for some extra icing.
Blessings,
Anya
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 8/5/2004 at 01:14 AM |
I will say one thing - the dark stuff is a spice, not a food group. A
little goes a long, long way. Or it's like alcohol - it's fun, theraputic,
and very easily misused. Yes, you can poison your life with it. If it was
all I did, I would end up sick and twisted and miserable, mainly because my
life would be focused on pain.
Because of this, I use "black magic" sparingly, and only when other options
fail. And when I use it, I use it cleanly and decisively, like a surgeon's
knife cutting out a cancer. Destructive, but with a constructive purpose.
And I try very hard to balance my life out with things that have as little
as possible to do with the matter. Otherwise I dwell on it too much, and
the energies leave me uptight and jittery. But maybe that's just me.
How did I know that this forum would end up with a discussion of the rule
of three?
Bettie is right - "black stuff" can cause you pain - but so can "white"
stuff. In fact, anything can cause you pain. Sleeping can cause you pain,
if you sleep wrong and your leg from the knee down falls asleep til it
feels like a block of wood and you try to stand and you can't even feel you
have a leg and fall over. Teddy bears can cause you pain when your toddler
whips them at you and catches you with their beady eyes.
Life causes pain. And few people experience more pain than those who
refuse to protect themselves. Like the wimpy kids on the playground who
get beat up by the bullies. A bully won't pick on someone they know can
defend themselves.
And that's the point of things - self defense. Anything more, and I turn
into the bully myself. Anything less, and I end up a victim. I refuse to
be either.
And if there are consequences, I will take them, like I take the
consequences of eating and breathing and all the other things that make up
life. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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IamSquid
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posted on 8/5/2004 at 01:12 AM |
A wonderful tyraid, Bettie. However I'd like to add one thing:
The woman in question is not only screwing with Schizo, but screwing with
her KIDS. If yoo cross a woman's maternal instinct, yoo had goddamn well
better expect her to destroy yoo, perhaps even violently. What kind of
parent would Schizo be if she just sat there and let this psycho corrupt
her children?
But she's not, she defending herself AND her children. She's excersizing
her maternal instinct and because of this her children will grow up strong
in her image rather being submissive cowards. ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl |
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 8/5/2004 at 12:47 AM |
Only if you're a dorkwad who "plays" around thinking they're cool.
Seriously, and magic is NOT REAL. I mean come on, call up all your personal
"demons" and then laugh and tell them "made you look!" and see what all
that delicious energy does. It's imposing your strength of mental will on
a situation or person. It's not always nice, it's not always fair, but
neither is life. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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Zero
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posted on 7/5/2004 at 06:56 PM |
i just wanted to know .....does this mean that there are (or will be)
consequences (of the bad kind) when practicing magic? *he asks with child
like enthusiasm* ____________________ "It is a fool's prerogative to utter truths that no one else will speak."
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 7/5/2004 at 06:40 PM |
You're welcome babycakes
I'm not TRYING to be mean, but I"m sorry, if you can't handle or don't want
to accept both sides of something, then you shouldn't meddle in it at ALL,
even just the good side and no matter what you're intentions are. Because
even when you WANT to and THINK you're doing "good", if your strength of
will or mind isn't strong enough to handle the "bad" it'll crawl up your
butt and eat your heart for lunch anyway.
I really hope that when I die I go to hell and some stupid kid calls me
back up through a oija board. I've always wanted to command someone to
"LET JESUS FUCK YOU". ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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Schizo
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posted on 7/5/2004 at 01:31 PM |
Thanks, Bettie. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
the
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 7/5/2004 at 11:48 AM |
Nykiro, I understand the general dogma of the "white/black" crap you've
probably been forcefed along with that rule of 3 bullshit, but listen
up.
Avoidance of things do not make them go away or not exist. "White
lighters" are hypocrites and cowards, because they, just like everyone,
think bad things, but pretend not to. "Magic" *gag* is not white OR black,
it's both. And the word itself is no more than window dressing for the
simple matter of strength of will. It's lipstick on a pig. So why bother?
Because the human mind demands ritual, pageantry, order. When people
perform a "ritual" they're merely setting an atmosphere conductive to
concentration.
Think of it this way. You apply for a job. SO do 5 other people. YOU get
the job because you're more qualified (due to strength of will to build
skills that will get you what you want). The other five people do not.
They need that job too. By you using your strength of will to become more
qualified or to become very charming and give a "good interview" you are
getting what you want, but not without denying the wants of other people.
It's good for you, bad for them. So does that make your actions and
achieved results by strength of will black? Or white? It makes them
both.
Now take shitz's position. For the crazy girl she's been going back and
forth with for years to continue to be able to screw with her and her
boyfriend and generally wreak havoc (and hence, satisfaction from havoc
since she's deranged) is a good thing. She derives satisfaction from it.
However, Schitz and her boyfriend do not, and it is detrimental to their
lives. So for Schitz to be rightfully free of the idiot, she has chosen to
exercise her will (and ask for help on the matter too cuz she's smart) and
be done with her. This is good for Schitz, bad for nutsy.
Self preservation is the most basic of all "rights". Don't tread on me, if
you will. The rule of three does not exist. Will this come back on her?
NO! If she chooses to exercise her will with strength and unquestioned
conscience, she'll be fine. She knows better than to call forward that
which she can't control with the iron fist it demands. And besides, if
this so called "R3" is ALL that keeps these white lighters from doing
"devil's work", ie: I don't do it cuz I'll get busted, then does that
really make them good or does it make them hypocritical and cowardly?
The title of this forum "calling all black magic mommas" was used because
well, she is, because it's funny, and it sort of sums up her feelings.
It's time for the big guns. No more pussyfooting. No more helpful nexx.
It's time to throwdown, kick off, end the crap once and for all and make
her sorry she ever brought her drama and bullshit on anyone. And in a way
you're right, it IS Devil's work. Cuz the Devil don't take shit from
NOBODY. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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IamSquid
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posted on 6/5/2004 at 11:13 PM |
No it's not bad. There is no good or bad. Neither is there a black or
white magic. Every action has consequences, some are beneficial, others
are detrimental:
If I stab my sister to death (A)she shuts the fuck up but (B)I go to
prison. IS it worth (B)to achieve (A)?
Yor alive, yoo can't avoid participating, omission of action is an action.
Thus yoo might as well try to figure out how to get the results yoo want. ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl |
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Dolorosa
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posted on 6/5/2004 at 09:48 PM |
::smacks Nykiro upside the head:: Heh...yes it's bad, but life is stupid if
all you do are the things that are good for you.
Badness rocks like two watermelons in a sports bra. ____________________ In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King |
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Nykiro
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posted on 6/5/2004 at 07:33 PM |
isnt black magick a bad thing?? hrmm i tend to stay away from things of
that manner...devils work i tell you ____________________ its better to burn out than to fade away...outta the blue and into the
black... they give you this but you pay for that
Can i kiss your face?
lets open your veins to make a pool and bathe to see if anyone complains of
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Schizo
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posted on 5/5/2004 at 01:29 PM |
Good point, Zero, and I'll tell you why I am, and am not doing that.
I am not doing that for a couple of reasons. One reason is, I have already
offered her help to become more stable, over and over again. I have, and
other people have, and she just takes advantage of the people trying to
help her, and then continues on her unstable way without changing anything.
The other reason is, no matter how powerful you are, you can't make anyone
be a better person if they don't want to. And she not only does not want
to, she doesn't even want to admit to anyone, including herself, that she
might not actually be a wonderful person to start with.
But this is how I am doing it - I am not cursing her directly, or asking
anyone else to do so. What I am doing is cursing her actions - making sure
that the stupid, hurtful, poisonous things she does have major, inescapable
consequences. That she will no longer be able to get away with the
horrible things she does. That the things she does to escape consequences
will no longer work.
To tell the truth, the only hope I see for her to ever become a "good"
person is for all her games and tricks to backfire on her. Maybe then she
will learn her lesson. But I'm not holding my breath. At the very least,
she may think twice before messing with me. That's about the best I really
expect to accomplish. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
the
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the
carefullest
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girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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Zero
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posted on 5/5/2004 at 07:49 AM |
i know that maybe she doesn't deserve this and i don't know any thing at
all about magic...but...did you ever think of finding a spell that would
instead bring some sort of stability and order to her life??...maybe
something that would help her be a better person...a spell that would maybe
make her see the light of her own actions...then maybe she'd just either be
good or get rid of herself....
....and if that didn't work frie her....
oh yeah, no matter what i hope it all works out right for you and the
children
(don't think of this as an attack on you.....i just wondered)
[Edited on 5/5/2004 by Zero] ____________________ "It is a fool's prerogative to utter truths that no one else will
speak."
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Schizo
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posted on 5/5/2004 at 03:32 AM |
Actually, the only way to protect them in that manner would be to have them
over permanently, because that sort of shit is always going down with this
girl. She curses herself - I'm not kidding! Not intentionally, but she
does it. She does have power, but she's so choked and tangled that all the
intent to harm gets caught inside her and ends up harming her instead.
Considering all the shit that's gotten through to me, I can only imagine
what she's already experiencing. But apparently it's still not enough for
her to learn a lesson from.
Someday, SOMEDAY, we'll be able to take those kids out from that mess.
*sigh* ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
the
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the
carefullest
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of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/5/2004 at 07:13 PM |
Schitz, the best answer to that is to invite the kids over for a week or
even weekend while you do it. Remove 'em from her place while to big bad
juju goes down. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/5/2004 at 06:22 PM |
Thanks everybody who has volunteered to help! You're all the greatest!
For anyone to whom the dark stuff is strictly no-no, I can also use people
who will help protect me from the psychic nasties. I can generally handle
it pretty well, but I can always use help, and besides, with wedding plans
and moving and so on, I need to conserve my energy whenever possible.
More importantly, I need people who will help shield my step-children, who
are caught smack-dab in the middle of this mess. They have to live with
the bitch, and the 8-year-old boy especially understands far too much of
what is going on. There already seems to be something out there watching
out for them (for example, no matter how irresponsible their mother is, for
the two years they've been homeless, someone has always taken them in.)
But once again, every little bit helps.
However, if you want to chip in with the cause, please contact me first,
especially concerning the children. I don't want any well-intentioned
blunders due to ignorance of the situation. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
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the
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the
carefullest
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of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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