I'm of the mind that routine destroys a person's potential for wisdom and
intelligence, by oppressing the closed minded imperative. See, we do the
same shit every day, because by doing this same shit, we've established
some sort of sense of security and guidance when it comes to surviving in
society, most especially because this is what, precisely, is awaited of the
common man.
I can tell this by old people always saying the same stories over and over
again; such examples show that the person has to keep reminding themselves
that at some point or another in their life, they did or experienced
something worthwhile. they learned something form it, and try to keep it
alive by presenting it as some huge feat. Because other then this, routine
destroys everything. it like, stalls your mental or spiritual progress...or
some shit.
I thought I was miserable and suicidal when I didn't have a job and didn't
know what I was going to do about the rent or food; but every day was an
adventure, and I'm sure I've learned so much more shit form struggling like
a jackass then I have been for the past three years. I have a job now and
just do the same thing over and over again. Weekends are sought after for
whatever freedom I can extract from it, and recap the shit I like to do.
But it's not the same. It's like sniffing a book instead of reading it.
But I still don't want to end up on the street or jobless again. I don't
know. Does it make sense?
[Edited on 28/11/2007 by Sorrow]
Schizo
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posted on 5/6/2012 at 01:14 PM
Wow. What is this, a Markov chaining experiment?
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wlznew
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posted on 30/5/2012 at 11:50 PM
[spam or meth vomit deleted]
[Edited on 9/20/2012 by Devin]
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Domkitten
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 11:57 PM
quote:.
But I still don't want to end up on the street or jobless again. I don't
know. Does it make sense?
[Edited on 28/11/2007 by Sorrow]
I am so looking forward to being jobless for two months it's not even
funny. And yet, I don't want to be jobless in the US. I think it's all a
matter of where you are jobless as to how much jobless effects you. Being
jobless in Thailand is great balls of fun. Being jobless in bum fuck
Florida is not so nice.
And to the regulars.
You people kill me, I laughed until I cried.
Rouge, I'm not sure, but I'm afraid that image is going to becoming a
masturbatory fantasy, is that wrong?
Mono? A farmer? heh. Loved that.
Mono: Have you been drinking again, you are far to coherent to be sober.
Hugs to all of you.
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 07:08 PM
Dood, I miss my old routine. Maybe it's one of those times where I need
some obnoxious armchair pundit telling me I didn't know what I had until it
was gone, but I miss just doing my 40 hour work week and then going home
the podling and engaging in simple, non-intellectual stuffs and wonders.
School makes everything very unroutine.
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Rogue
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 05:26 PM
Anyway, so where was i? Routine itself does not scourge wisdom, but it can
depending upon how you treat it. If you have a routine job and life and
such, and resign yourself to that and cordon yourself off with a velvet
rope of your own construction, you will find your mind will solidify in
place like so much quikrete (the handy, dandy, easy to mix concrete for all
your jobs around the house, also good for hiding corpses!), but in any
situation you can choose to keep your mind alive and growing. I used to
work factory jobs, or repetitive or unchallenging office jobs (like the one
i am overpaid to do now), but i do other things with my mind during that
time. I will recite books to myself, build mechanical objects mentally,
think about different things, anything but zoning out and letting my mind
go to sleep.
So in short, no, being subjected to a routine is not anti-wisdom or
anti-intelligence, but putting your mind into a routine and a rut with too
few outside influences can certainly lead to mental stagnation if not
decay. That's my take anyway.
Here are some smileys, since I currently lack rabbits with pancakes on
their heads.
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Schizo
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 05:24 PM
*spits her energy drink all over the keyboard*
Rogue, you are the best!
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
Rogue
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 05:20 PM
Jesus. Fucking. Christ. People, try the decaf.
____________________ Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.
Starlight
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 04:43 PM
Well now...it's amazing what I miss when I switch up my sleeping schedule.
I'm completely in love with the smiley. In fact, in
some forums I have to practically sit on my hands not to post it. I just
wanted to mention that for the sheer joy of mentioning my longtime
favourite smiley.
Personally, I find well-placed sarcasm to be funny more often than I find
it offensive, but we all see it through different eyes and different moods.
My take on Sorrow's post was that I thought it was probably an attempt at
showing that he might have been trying to "stand the heat" and "stay in the
kitchen". If that was what he was doing, then it's somewhat refreshing or
at the very least interesting enough to find out if he'll come back and
post some more.
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tried before." ~Mae West
Monolycus
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 04:37 PM
No, don't ambush people in private messages, either. That's what got this
ball rolling in the first place. I think this needs to be aired. Probably
should be aired in the "Tough Love" forum, but this is where it happened,
so this is where I'll address it. Fuck my karma script. If I'm banned, I'm
banned.
feral wrote:
quote:either way... why are you
talking to me?
I know that you like to argue that black is white when it suits your
purpose, but if you want to scroll back to page 1, you'll see it was you
brought MY name up first. You said that somebody told you once that my not
talking to you was "my way of apologizing"... News Flash: I HAVE NOTHING TO
APOLOGIZE FOR. I WAS THE ONE WHO WAS ORIGINALLY ATTACKED WHEN THIS STARTED
BETWEEN US.
I tried to make peace once, granted, but since that doesn't involve overtly
fellating you, you wouldn't have anything to do with it. My not talking
to you was an effort to avoid exactly the pissing match we see here before
us. I know full well that anything I type here is going to be twisted by
you to fuel your martyr complex, so I haven't bothered. You haven't
returned the favor.
Nobody "owes you an apology" for failing to recognize your self-described
brilliance. And no, I'm not "projecting" anything... I'm angry as hell,
but you can choke on my abnormally large projection if you think I'm going
to sit idly by while you trash me. You're not the victim you think you
are. You're jealous, manipulative and full of self-pity. That does not
make you a victim... and blaming the rest of the world for your
inadequacies is not going to make you a better person in the long run.
It's not the publishing industry that's at fault for "misunderstanding
you". It's not the folk at Don't Date Him who are at fault for
"misunderstanding you". It's certainly not my fault when you throw
tantrums because I had the temerity to disagree with something you said.
You had the opportunity to address this with me and you chose to trash me
to everyone BUT me. I have lost every shred of respect I may have ever had
for you. Guess what? That doesn't make you a fucking victim and it doesn't
make me a villian. You need to grow up and stop blaming everyone and
everything and finding ways of protesting your innocence when you're doing
SO MUCH to bring shit on yourself. No, that's not a projection on my part.
That's an assessment. I don't know how you'll manage to change that into
it being my fault and convince yourself that you are a special and unique
snowflake, but I have no doubt you'll figure something out. It's what you
do.
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Schizo
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 10:55 AM
Honestly, though, I think more than anything else this is why the site has
been so dead... things that ought to be cared for privately are being aired
publicly, in the middle of conversations that then get halted. Newbies get
scared off, and established members get sickened. If we can't all be
friends, can we at least air our disputes in private?
____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
the
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
Meranda_Jade
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 10:36 AM
Don't care if you care. I just wanted to speak my mind. We're allowed to do
that on a public forum, you know.
I must not understand how calendars work, 'cos we all know you're never
wrong about anything.
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Meranda_Jade
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 10:17 AM
Well. I realized that people would be upset about being criticized. But
it's truly amazing how drawn out this gets every time.
I'll go ahead and translate what I was saying.
"jesus fucking Christ" is a term displaying the extreme frustration I was
feeling at what I saw as yet another unnecessary question of someone's
motives.
I don't care about motives. I care about results. Motives do not change a
given result. An evil motive can cause a good result as much as a good
motive can cause an evil one. I did not say anything about what people were
saying about the content of the guy's post.. I see the original post as
fair game for discussion. I only got my dander up about speculation on what
the guy "means" by his words. To assume that someone is displaying
sarcasm... when you have admitted that you did not know for sure... I think
is unreasonable and unnecessary. Likewise with assuming that the person in
question is deliberately "trying" to write in a more intelligent manner
than he is cabable of out of pretention. You just see the discussion he was
trying to start. Making assumptions about someone's motives and personal
feelings on the internet is like looking through water and assuming things
are exactly where you think they are. There's refraction caused by water,
and there's no way of knowing if a person is expressing themselves well
online. You, Feral... in particular, ought to have more of a clue about
this... because you say others make assumptions about you. You don't like
it. Do you think this guy likes it that people are assuming that he is
sarcastic or pretentious?
Yes, I was insulting in my post. I was frustrated and wanted to make my
displeasure known. No, it wasn't nice. My motives... which you can do
nothing but assume about... have nothing to do with the results, which is
that people are now angry, upset and feeling attacked. The motive behind it
doesn't matter. Only the results. Did I mean for people to feel angry,
upset and attacked? I definitely wanted to bring home my point... that I am
sick to death of people assuming about people's motivations when they post
something. I think I made that point.
Now, let's quit playing the blame game and talking about ALL the other
bullshit problems we have with one another.
Like when I deal with my kids, let's make this quick, painless and over. If
we want to talk about why we don't get along, let's make a new forum for
it. That ought to be very interesting.
Yeah..and then I left... 6 or so months...not a word, not a log in...I cam
back because several members did what they did to you...asked me to come
back because I was missed... there was no fanfare...
Funny that someone who left because I supposedly attacked him when I was
simply trying to clarify should accuse others of a victim complex...
please...define victim? having problems with the way one or two people
treeat me...that makes me a victim? responding to mistreatement in a less
than pleasant way...that makes me a victim?
you say I have my girlfriend fight my battles.. I am sorry that someone of
the opposite sex agrees with my opinion. But I never stood back, I fought
my own battles here.
Though...I am noticing a pattern here... everything you have just accused
me of, you are guilty of yourself... seems like you are projecting...
sorry to everone who asked me to come back, but I was right...
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Monolycus
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:51 AM
You stop following me around from post to post like some kind of endlessly
pontificating know-it-all terrier, you won't have reason to play your
perpetual victim card.
You saying I'm acting like a child? I'm saying you're a two dimensional
bully and I'm sick of the stereotypical internet tough guy act. Why
haven't you threatened to come crawling through my monitor to kick my ass
yet? I say something has nothing to do with you and you chirp in with your
constant know-better-than-everyone peurile crap and if anyone DARES
disagree with you, then you bring up your flaring case of assburgers.
I'm acting like a child? Do I need to link to the forum where you whined
like a pussy about how you were never coming back again that lasted a total
of ONE MONTH or should we talk about how your girlfriend fights all your
battles for you? Oh, but I'M the bad guy 'cos I hurt your wee wittle
feelings.
Fuck and you, feral. Put'em in whatever order you want.
____________________ "I believe that woman is planning to shoot me again."
Everybody's-Fair-Game-But-Me...never said that..but I am not a target to
shoot at. I shoot back..sorry that you cannot take that. Sorry that your
targetss have to be helpless and unable to respond.
you may not have been talking to me, but you were talking about me.
Everyone told me to leave you alone because "that was your way of
apologizing." And then you sa back and sniped.
I will be honest with you...I called you friend..you called me friend..then
I did something to wrong you in your mind and then you never told me about
it...just got mad and harumphed about it. your opinion of my actions means
about as much as a festering bowl of dog snot. you see...you lied to me...
outright... because that is not how a friend behaves... so pardon me if I
put little stock in your commentary... if you don't want to talk to me,
then don't talk about me in a public forum.. i've ignored your petty
bullshit snide comments since you came back because I thought it was best
for the site...because everyone wanted you back.
Now I say: stop being a child... if you don't want to talk to me, then
don't do what you've been doing...
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Monolycus
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:35 AM
quote:Mono: I apologize..you
did not ask if we could all jsut get along... please accept my corrected
citation
I'm accepting a total of two things from you: Jack and shit.
[Edited on 12/1/2007 by Monolycus]
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Monolycus
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posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:33 AM
quote:Mono..you are
wrong...this is a new dance...
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
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