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Author: Subject: Love

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  posted on 30/7/2002 at 11:56 AM
It’s possibly the most trivial affair which haunts everyone’s life, yet how come it hurts the most?

The foolish man makes the same mistake twice, but this is one, I’m sure everyone’s done more than two times. Strange how it always ends up the same way.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2002 at 02:53 AM
Love is deciding impending disaster is worth it. But what the hell do I know?

 

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i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to die so i could watch, and then me die.

-ickgirl

 

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  posted on 8/8/2002 at 08:34 PM
I forgot to log in! Damn it.

 

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  posted on 8/8/2002 at 08:27 PM
heh, we all get burned by one thing or another...

My keyboard´s t and y buttons won´t work propperly anymore. They stick down and aren´t as jumpy as they used to be.

*takes out brick*

Warped Tour tommarrow. Woo.

heh, I know, I need more sleep.

 

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  posted on 8/8/2002 at 07:27 PM
I like when people defy that logic and then a couple days later get burned...

 

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No angels in the air
And the morning paper ran
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  posted on 8/8/2002 at 05:11 PM
Well said.

 

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  posted on 8/8/2002 at 10:59 AM
Love is the same road for all of us. The journey is longer for some people and we all notice different things along the way. But in the end it has lead us to the ravine of grief we all try to jump, but none succeed in crossing.

 

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  posted on 4/8/2002 at 03:55 PM
Talk about your teeth...

Like in those Orbit commercials.

 

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  posted on 3/8/2002 at 12:46 AM
The only thing I have to say on the subject is that I wish I had something to say on the subject.

 

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die so i could watch, and then me die.




-ickgirl

 

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  posted on 3/8/2002 at 12:06 AM
I got high the first and only time in my life in the dentist´s chair...wisdom teeth...nitrus. I remember telling the technician that I was glad I didn´t do "this sort of thing" recreationally, because I"d never stop. Then tried to remind myself not to make elephant noises at her (hey, the mask and tube were big and grey and I"d been on the gas a while...).
Love can be a mask for many things...Some people don´t actually love others, they are just in love with being in love. It´s no less painful than the loss of actual love, but it is often much more freqent and leaves the person who misleads themselves asking "why? Why ME?!"

 

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  posted on 2/8/2002 at 04:43 PM
I don´t want to have children either. If anything I´d adopt since there are already so many children that need homes. About dentists..I don´t like them. People sticking their fingers in my mouth..eh, I hate it.

 

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No angels in the air

And the morning paper ran

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  posted on 1/8/2002 at 08:55 PM
About children, I don´t want to have any. A old g/f of mine wanted to have children about a year into our releashionship. I honestly don´t that motivation, even to this day...

Bringing a child into this world would be a cruel thing.

Also, don´t worry ´bout the dentist, they use gass and not the needle. It would take too many needles to put you out and that would, well, kill you.
heh, so don´t worry ´bout it. I got my wisdom teeth out and it didn´t hurt that much.

 

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  posted on 1/8/2002 at 10:12 AM
My family´s not quite that distant. My mom says I love you a lot, actually she throws those three words around at everyone. My dog is dying as well, I´ve had her since I was two.
The dentist story makes me not want to go and get my wisdom teeth out..just from what happend to your mother. I hate dentists and hospitals, especially hospitals. They lack the feeling of hope to me, actually. It´s more like the reminder that death is coming for us all and it can be very, very painful. A dentist invented the electric chair...enough said.
when I look at my mom I don´t see a mother, I see a care-taker. When I look at my dad I don´t see a dad I see some guy I don´t know who lives with us. My mom is trying to keep our family together; the only person I really love is my brother. I can´t talk to my mother about anything and I used to get angry when I watched my sister and her talk about everything. Now I just don´t care.
AloneSoul~yes, you´re right we do have more in common than one would think.

 

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No angels in the air


And the morning paper ran


One more suicide"

 

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  posted on 1/8/2002 at 10:10 AM
The hard part of love is figuring out what emotions that word is masking. habit, need, compassion, projection, fear, lust, loneliness, ambition, acceptance, compliance, revenge, fulfulment, desire, shared history, social pressures, greed, self love, chemical imballance, covetting, jealousy, being used to something, interest, friendship, awe, comfort, arousal, adoration, laziness, fear of the unknown, confusion, pity, apithy, self hate, ego, control, lack of control, and a zillion others.
People use the word "love" for all of these other emotions, usually when they mean three or four of them at once.
Love itself is easy, a confusion of some of the above is hard.

 

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  posted on 31/7/2002 at 09:57 PM
*points above*

That post is by me...

Forgot to log in.

 

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  posted on 31/7/2002 at 09:50 PM
Again to DarkMistress, we share more things in common than I personally thought...
Except the cats thing.

I have a dog...Who’s also dying... God damn it.

About family love...
My mother tried to hold this family together, she failed. The farther we are apart, the better. My parents , however, are still together * which is a surprise*. I swore they were going to get a divorce...didn’t really care that much either.

I don’t really know how to talk to a person, I’m more inside my own world. I was raised this way...I don’t want to discuss the details of my life for two reasons.
1) They’re not something I so easily tell people.
2) I don’t remember much of my life, it’s mainly a blank slate with some memories.

Hugs and human contact in general is still a foreign thing to this day for me. The way we’ve been raised is this. Life sucks, get used to it. My family, we don’t have that bond which any normal family would, we don’t say “I love you!” None of that crap, the one time my father did ever say that to me I just looked at him with this “what are you smoking” expression on my face.

*shivers* It’s just wrong to hear that. That’s the way I’ve been raised.

Here’s a example of how we operate.

I had to go to the dentist today. As I was pulling into a parking spot I saw a ambulance loading a person and drive away quickly. I didn’t know what happened exactly but I did see that it was parked infront of the dentist place I was going to. I walked inside and all hell was breaking lose between the dentists and nurses. They were talking and looking worried that they were going to be sued.

I finally get called for my crown and when I’m walking back with one of the nurses I asked “what was all that commotion about?”
She replied hesitantly.
“Uhhhh, a panic attack.”

As I sat down in the chair I thought to myself “a panic attack? She bullshitted me rather quickly.”

I went back to the front desk to schedule another appointment till one of the nurses looked at me and asked...

“Are you David Garcia?”
“Yes.”
“Is your father Mike Garcia?”
“Yes.”
“Is your mother Mrta Garcia?”
“Yes but it’s pronounced Myrta.”
“Oh, well, she was taken out to the hospital.”
“What happened, I was just parking while they were loading a person onto the ambulance” I asked with a confused look on my face.
“She had a panic attack, she started screaming ‘I gotta get out of here, I gotta get out of here’ in the lobby.”
I was embraced, putting my hand on my face.
“Oh don’t worry, she’ll be fine.”
“I’m not worried, I just need to schedule another appointment.”

I hate the hospital, bad feelings and memories rush in my head when I step inside one.
I got directions to the hospital and eventually found my way to her room. My father was in there with her. She was almost as pale as me. That’s not right because she’s very tanned. We talked like we would any other rare conversation we had. I found out that she nearly asphyxiated from her own throat closing in on her as she fell into a wild seizer from a overdoes of anaesthesia which she was allergic too...and she didn’t even need the med’s for the procedure done. She refused them at first.

I’m sure your wondering what my point is to this story.
It’s this. I didn’t worry, bitch or cry when I found out she was sent to the hospital nor when I saw her. I didn’t hug her, kneel by her bed side or any of that. Nor did my father. It’s like any other hospital visit for any other of my friends. I was numb to the whole situation, except for embarrassment when the nurses at the dentists office told me she merely had a panic attack.

We don’t really have that bond which other families would. We don’t really “love” each other. It’s more of a forced compassion because we are a family. That compassion took nearly 18 years to grow to the point where we can sit in the same room for five minutes without being at each others throats..

So, that’s another day and rant by me.

I hope I didn’t bore or confuse you too much.

 

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  posted on 31/7/2002 at 01:38 PM
I didnt like children either until my nephew was born, I have a niece whose 6 and a snot. But she´s related through marriage, we have the same name. My nephew is adorable though.

 

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No angels in the air



And the morning paper ran



One more suicide"

 

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  posted on 31/7/2002 at 11:45 AM
I totally know the whole "baby" thing. I found children repulsive until my nephew was born, and I simply cannot get enough of him.
I have family love...it´s a wierd sort of thing, not the typical disfunctional family that pretends everything is alright, not the typical nuclear family that has dinner every evening and hugs and kisses both their parents and their siblings are the best of friends.
We all love each other...and our wierd sort of family love I wouldn´t trade for the world. We always know dad loves us, he just isnt´ good at showing it. I remember when my sister was in the hospital after having my nephew...my dad HUGGED her. Dad doesn´t hug. The last time I was hugged by my dad was when I was 16 and my grandma died. Dads are funny creatures.
My sisters and I love each other...I´ve always been sort of a third wheel to them two, but when I was in trouble they were the FIRST to come to my aid with a fury you´ve never seen.
Chemical love is a scary thing because it´s so unpredictable and sooooo uncontrollable and can be sooooo painful.
Emotional love is something that can turn into chemical love..enter scenario of "mutual friend" that you hang out with a lot. Emotional love is like a round about way of turning knobs and levers over time to instigate chemical love. Personally I think it´s a lot SAFER...because it´s based on something other than chemicals messing up your brain and clouding your judgement.
Love is tricky sticky icky..but it doesn´t have to be :)

 

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  posted on 31/7/2002 at 11:27 AM
AloneSoul~yes I know, I don´t get over things easily myself..even if I make it seem like I do. In fact I´ve been holding onto something for years and trying to forget it doesn´t help. I just try to deal. I just lost my best friend and gained an enemy a couple of days ago and that makes everything harder. I don´t know real love, family love. Someone tries to hug me and I cringe and shy away. Theres more but I don´t think sharing it with the whole world will make anything better, if not worse. Love sucks, and for those who feel that way, what can you really do? I just take each day in stride and know that the only real friends I have are cats. I´m sorry about your friend, I lost my cousin to suicide.

 

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No angels in the air




And the morning paper ran




One more suicide"

 

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  posted on 31/7/2002 at 10:14 AM
To DarkMistress, I agree, I do, except for the part of just “getting over it.”

Love is trivial, a common trait in our lives which will cause us all to do the most uncommon things. It is for just insurance of reproduction. It is not that easy, not for me atleast, to get over it...not from the things in my life. Not when you lose a friend to suicide, a family member to gang violence, people that you love to these things and more. It’s not easy to get over the loss of a burden so great that it feels as though the moon is a nail and it’s slowly pressing down upon your back.

Even if it doesn´t seem like it, we all are attached to someone or something. When we lose that, we´ll know how much it truly ment.

I guess I have too much excess baggage to check at the door. I tried letting that go but, heh, it’s simpler said than done. So, I don’t talk about it. You could just say that “it’s all fucked up, lets cry and forget” but when that time comes, you can’t throw away something which has a tight grip in your head. Especially that which seems to reoccur in your life too many times.

Love...I hate it.

Ack, I’m ranting again.

I just found out today that someone I care deeply for tried to kill herself. *sighs* It just seems life is one big spiral of suicide. There’s nothing I can do to help.

Life is the cruelest jester of them all.

 

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