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Author: Subject: Not goth...to the MAXX






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  posted on 15/11/2004 at 03:22 PM
Now i can prove to everyone I'm not a goth...i'm just weird. This test will save my life. Actually, I'm here trying to find research for my personal interest project. I don't know what i'm doing yet but i'm thinking of looking at different cultures amongst teenagers. If anyone can help me email me [email protected]
 

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  posted on 15/11/2004 at 04:49 PM
Subcultures ay?

Hm. What where you thinking of doing apart from goth; punk, something urban?

 

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  posted on 15/11/2004 at 05:03 PM
how nice for you

 

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  posted on 15/11/2004 at 05:10 PM
The only subculture I know about is the CHUD's. Go talk to them.

 

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  posted on 15/11/2004 at 06:45 PM
Ah well. Now you've had you're head bit off you can go away and make some sweeping generalisations about that. I don't believe in subcultures anyway.
 

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  posted on 15/11/2004 at 08:09 PM
head bit off? wanna see head biting??

 

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  posted on 15/11/2004 at 08:28 PM
The online bullying is getting less endearing every time, feral. I wasn't under the impression that you were trying to make yourself into a two-dimensional caricature, but you're getting there quick.

If you want to chomp a head, mine is right here and it isn't going to be chased away as quickly as every newbie in the past year or so that I've seen trying to make a tentative contribution before being chopped off at the knees.

~M.

 

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  posted on 16/11/2004 at 09:04 AM
Chopped off at the kneees? Reminds me of the black knight except his entire legs were chopped. "Come back here and I'll bite your knee caps off."

 

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  posted on 16/11/2004 at 09:50 AM
It's only a flesh wound, right?

 

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  posted on 16/11/2004 at 01:37 PM
Tis but a scratch.
 

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  posted on 16/11/2004 at 04:23 PM
Mono: i was not bullying... I have been more tolerant in the last 6 months than I ever have... HONESTLY... I have restrained myself, tried being nice and even tried taking some under my wing... but the nicer I become, the more people comment on how mean I have become... you make an unfair blanket statement... there are many I have let slide... many... (I have kept a list and tally) that I have talked to on an IM service and attempted to help... and the more I try... the more flak I have cought

I have tried to be nicer... but have failed... mea culpa... the solution will be forthcoming...

[Edited on 11/16/2004 by feralucce]

 

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  posted on 16/11/2004 at 09:46 PM
Generally speaking, once someone has taken the time and interest to write on a certain subculture, it's no longer a subculture. I don't believe that "Goth" in its many forms is a "sub" culture anymore, just like punk, rave, glam, romanticism, indie, or industrial. Burlesque is one of the comeback kids, but once again becoming too main to be sub.
It wouldnt' suprise me a bit to find out that there is a NEW teen "sub" culture out there, because I was out of the friggin loop even when I WAS a teenager. If there is, please do tell. For some reason, I like to know what "the kids" are up to once in a while other than being as obvious as they possibly can.

If you'd like some pre written "Goth" culture material, I highly suggest Gavin Badderly's "Goth Chic". It's a well written book.

I however am going to start my OWN subculture of burlesquie moddish heavily drinking vegan devil worshippers. I'll be so sub even *I* wont' be a member *snoot*

 

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  posted on 16/11/2004 at 09:50 PM
Maybe I did make a blanket statement. And maybe the problem is with me, after all there is always a gaggle of vocal supporters for every act of viciousness, both here and in the real world. And maybe that's my problem... ALWAYS.

I know you've said you're trying to become more tolerant, and I support self improvement. I guess what's been really pissing me off is I see THE SAME conversations, the same jibes, the same retorts, the same input over and over and over and over again so often that I completely lose track of whatever the hell forum it is that I was looking at in the first place.

If I wanted to name names, I could write a 12 page forum from start to finish and tell you word-for-word who would say what, which circular arguments and non-sequiters would get used and by whom, fill it up with a lot of pointless one-ups and then wrap it up on a hanging thread that doesn't go anywhere.

I guess I'm just tired of seeing the same old shit. I don't think it's clever, I don't know if I ever did, and I just don't see any fucking point to the exercise anymore.

~M.

 

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  posted on 17/11/2004 at 05:57 AM
Mono: i see your point... and mine is exactly the same... it seems that every newbie... the ones that irritate me are carbon copies of the last...

then there were the 15... that I have TRIED to help... I have gotten everything from "go fuck yourself" to "you're just an old man, what the fuck do you know?" to "it's not like I actually care"... And when I said mea culpa... i meant it... I am as socially retarded when trying to help as I am when I am bashing...

I feel that part of it may be me... I deal with the public all day... and the unoriginality there... then seeing the exact same thing said by every newbie... is just too much...

and the forthcoming solution is simple... *puts the lap top down and walks away for a few weeks*

 

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  posted on 17/11/2004 at 11:35 AM
feral: Sounds like we are neither of us dealing especially well. It also sounds like you have hit on a wise course of action for when the shit gets to be too much and I am following your example.

*Smashing my antique PC with a sledgehammer and walking away for a few weeks*

~M.

 

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  posted on 18/11/2004 at 09:31 AM
Oh, dear. Feral, have you really been called an old man? How ridiculous can some thirteen year-olds get? I'll bet you're not even thirty. You can take me under your knowledgable wing anytime and I'll be damn grateful. I've seen your photography skills and your posts here on the forums and anyone who can't respect that is a total choad. Same goes for Monolycus, who I personally think is one the most thoughtful, insightful, and intelligent people here on Shmeng. I haven't read anything by Mono that didn't seem well thought on beforehand and articulate. I've been wanting to say that for a bit, but felt too silly to do so before.

Hee hee... choad. There's something I haven't said in ages...

Bettie: I like your sub-culture idea, except for the vegan part. I'm such a poser I would join it if it weren't for the vegan thing. I like meat, I really, really do. But then if I did fall into that crowd I'd wind up turning it into a cult instead of a sub-culture and there'd be lots of eunuchs running around drinking poisoned punch en masse and it'd be such a damn mess... Well, let's just be glad I'm too lazy for social identity make-overs.

 

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evolution in schools will be a laughable issue.



But by god we'll be sticking it to the damn cyborgs!

 

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  posted on 18/11/2004 at 11:26 AM
I have no use for corpses or eunics. Corpses don't provide income for "the cause", and eunics are boooooring. Besides, since it's so sub that even *I* won't join, nobody else is allowed either. It'll be a sub culture that only "the" people KNOW about, but nobody is a PART of.

 

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  posted on 18/11/2004 at 04:04 PM
You get a 2 for effort for your email address.

 

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  posted on 19/11/2004 at 07:13 AM
Its nice to see Abby is back to random noise. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to see random nonsensical thinks next to his name. A tame pet troll is almost a mascot (sorry squido!)

 

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  posted on 19/11/2004 at 12:44 PM
callei, quit making me laugh out loud at work - I'm not supposed to be reading funny stuff - you're gonna get me in trouble.


(tame pet troll for a mascott *giggle* )

 

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