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darkness_of_shadows
Occasional Poster   Posts: 49 Registered: 9/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 3/7/2002 at 06:56 PM |
the way i see things there are many problems with the way people in thes
world do things.. and i dont just mean brusing your teath in the shower
(yeah i do thatt anyways...) i mean the way politics are handled.. and
all these damn laws that really do have no reason..
if i could i would help the needy but not like the governments do.. they
dont do it right..
if i could i would improve schools.. make them bigger if nothing else to
like.. ya know.. make classes smaller or whatever
im seriously thingking about the future.
everyone needs an opporitunity to live.. right?
so if anyone has any ideas share! all ideas are good sept genocide or war
or shit like that... while i would love to no.. its just not what we
need right now
:D ____________________
if you want idiocy you've come to the right place
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2002 at 05:28 PM |
*Scratches head* Actually...every great change in society has been preceded
or followed immediatly after war, it is the crux of our cultures
evolution.
But I agree, as much as I rant...Iīd rather not go to war anytime soon
again.
The problem with passive changes is that they are simply that much more
difficult.
Personally, I donīt have any solid ideas for passive world change...itīs a
nice thought though. ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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Alugarde
Member   Posts: 185 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/7/2002 at 08:24 PM |
"if i could i would help the needy but not like the governments do.. they
dont do it right.. "
Define "right". ____________________
l33t is the bastard cousin of contractions.
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darkness_of_shadows
Occasional Poster Posts: 49 Registered: 9/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/7/2002 at 11:42 PM |
the government helps as it knoes how.. however they make it so that the
people ar almost as bad off as before the government stepped in
i dunno about anywhere but the us on this one.. ive done a bit of
reacherch it turns out that the privately owned charety orginizations are
much more effective.. the appartment complexes that house people who have
skills to teach others and at th same time run a buisness (restaraunt?)
provides them with money, food, and housing untill they are back on their
feet yes they pay rent but its a small amount.. and at the same time they
have to be working and learning from the other people there new skills or
improving the ones they have.. in fact they hire down on their luck (so to
speak) carpenters to BUILD the place and when one person moves out he/she
is much more prepared then if the government gives them a check every
month. they learn to rely on themselves.. as well as others.. to get what
they need but also that the worls doesnt just hand you things..
the government can do good things.. but right now not any are in effect..
i think that if they stop trying to make a profit from it they will be much
better off.. they take money from other people to pay these people and the
ones they take it from get nothing (NOTHING) in return.. this way they
could get food or something in return for the money..
food for thaught
im tired now think ill go to bed soon
:) thanks for your time :) :) :smile: ____________________
if you want idiocy you've come to the right place
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Ironboots
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 7/7/2002 at 09:55 AM |
Welfare started in the 1930s, during the Great Depression. It worked, then,
because people used it for what it was there for: a bit of monetary help to
tide you over until you got a new job. It wasnīt that they needed job
skills... they already had them. And they werenīt going to just live off of
welfare, since that wasnīt an honest living. Hard work comprised a good
American citizen, and if you got handouts, you were less than the people
who worked hard for their money.
But over time, people lost their strong work ethic. They decided to simply
live off welfare. And as more people did that, the welfare budget had to
increase. Which made it increasingly a target for critics, and at the same
time, cut off funding for other projects, such as the one you describe.
Like Dolo said... Only massive occurrences are going to create massive
revolutions in bureacracy.
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Piggy's got the Conch!
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darkness_of_shadows
Occasional Poster Posts: 49 Registered: 9/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 7/7/2002 at 05:04 PM |
i understand that it WAS useful but now people are just lazy.. and to be
honest it pisses me off.. hard working people pay these people to do
NOTHING!!
i realize that something huge will be all that influences something huge..
however who says that that HUGE event cant be something good? not war?
perhaps a change in government.. maybe if we can get enough people to bring
this up it will change something.. maybe we can really start something..
but we would need alot more people than i or anyone else could find that
would be TRUELY helpful..
i would like to see something like this really happen.. not only here but
in africa as well and europe.. and asia.. and south america.. and the rest
of north america and so on and so forth.. i believe that we could actually
make everyones life better.. get hookers off the streets by giving them
real jobs. (i have nothing agenst hookers.. im just saying) it may not pay
the same but it would be better than what they do.
among other things when people get out of prison they go back to doing what
they did before for alot its theft.. if someone could teach them the
skills they would need to get a job.. teach them to depend not on
something they stole but something they earned..
perhaps a place where people could get someone to help them with the drug
addictions..
i may just be idealistic.. but i for one dont plan on just letting this
go.
someday the world will be better someday there WILL be less violence..
someday there will be no reason for worryin about the way you dress and
feel as tho you are inadaquate because what you wear doesnt cost as much
because you cant afford it..
this will take time but i believe that if we actually come togather and
make it happen we will be on the right track.... ____________________
if you want idiocy you've come to the right place
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 7/7/2002 at 05:39 PM |
I think Iīm starting to zen your meaning Darkness. Maybe not tearing down
the wall, but fixing the chinks in the masonry right?
I can sympathize with your feelings on welfare...
I think it would be extremely helpful if we brought back the old school
Guilds. Trade groups that take on apprentices, train them, and eventually
are replaced by them. It worked back then...it could work now, I know we
have a few modern incarnations (screw the freemasons!! :mad: ) but maybe we
need something that hits a little closer to the original concept.
If you teach a man to fish after all... ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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darkness_of_shadows
Occasional Poster Posts: 49 Registered: 9/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 8/7/2002 at 02:05 PM |
well if it workes once it should work again sometime in the future
the wall is in a good place so why tear it down?
if you really wanna know i think we should do away with some of the things
that make people lazy..make them work hard we would have fewer obece
people and more hard workers.. its true if you teach a man to fish he has
food for life if you teach a man to work he has the means to GET food for
life
there are many ways to change the system without making a huge dent right
away. and it just so happens that it starts with idealists who tell people
their plans or dreams and they tell enough people and SOMEONE... SOMEWHERE
takes the idea up and fights by the side of the idealist. they seem to
recrute others to the mission and the thing spreads.. (kinda like
religion..) and thats anoter way to change things.. like Joan De Arc tell
people that you believe that god sent to to do something and do not rest
untill you have your way about it.. it helps if your insane like she was..
but i can fake it :)
even if it doesnt start wth a dramatic change there will be a change
somewhere.rome wasnt built in a day after all.
its like school. you dont learn everything there is to know about
something in a single year. thats why we go to school for 13 years
required. (kindegarden-senior year) we have to learn to change the way
things are done around here (everywhere) but every movement started with
one person. hitler was alone when he started.
lincon was alone when he started.
they both met up with enough people who shared the common dream and went
with that both had alot of influence but they had to start somewhere and
my guess is that hitler wasnt born famous... ____________________
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Psychopixi
Fanatic   Posts: 376 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 8/7/2002 at 02:48 PM |
I really agree with you, especially about the misuse of the welfare system.
I know too many girls in my school, in my own year group, who have no
greater ambition than to get pregnant and have kids then go on the dole.
(the UK version of welfare)
I just think, however, that you can improve the education system, you can
provide more support, or what ever, but until you manage to get through to
people like them that life shouldnīt be about living off the government
then not much will change in that respect. ____________________
Do not fear death so much, but rather the inadequate life.
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darkness_of_shadows
Occasional Poster Posts: 49 Registered: 9/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 8/7/2002 at 02:54 PM |
well i will say this. something must be done soon.
even the GOVERNMENT complanes about the people living off of it. i
honestly think that if we can get enough people to write or talk to enough
government officials all over the world that we could make a difference..
but there are soooooo many people on this earth.. im sure if we tried... ____________________
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 9/7/2002 at 04:45 PM |
Two words...
Soylent Green. :evil: ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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darkness_of_shadows
Occasional Poster Posts: 49 Registered: 9/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 9/7/2002 at 04:49 PM |
soylent green?
im dence
dont get it.. ____________________
if you want idiocy you've come to the right place
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 9/7/2002 at 04:57 PM |
Old movie...the solution to so many things it ainīt even funny.
Now...with more Cheerleaders!! ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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DarkTigress
Member  Posts: 104 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/7/2002 at 11:38 AM |
| Uhm, well, the thing is, each person is their own world. They have had
their own life and experiences, and therefore have their own views and
react to things like no one else exactly will. Therefore a society will
never bring satisfaction to everyone... this I recently started to think...
so it must truly be a hard job anyway, to be a politician. I mean, what you
consider right, many people would consider wrong... like what another
person would think is right, maybe all of us would consider is wrong. Blah
blah blah, yada yada *laughs* Okay, Iīm done being all psycological now
:grin: ____________________
~The World Can Continue It's Excistence Without Mankind... But What Happens
To The Mankind When The Earth Is Gone?~
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Anonymous
 Posts: 116 Registered: 14/4/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 11/7/2002 at 09:32 AM |
| I think we need to focus a little more on controlling population, because
form what I see, things are getting a little crazy. I mean, the schools
would be big enough if the number of people in them didnīt shoot up so
fast, a few years ago, I heard a lot less about this, because itīs
obviously gotten a lot worse. Itīs driving me crazy the way people treat
each other too, this whole social status thing is a little messed up, I
mean, itīs just a bunch of people who loathe each other pretending to like
each other so everyone else will like them, but everyone else is just
pretending, too, so thatīs not gonna happen anytime soon. Huh? I think itīs
time for me to shut up now, before I start confusing myself... :eek: ____________________
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VampCourt
Fanatic  Posts: 293 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 11/7/2002 at 10:41 AM |
Soylent green is PEOPLE!!!
iīve seen that flick. ;) ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts nor the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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AloneSoul
Fanatic  Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/7/2002 at 10:22 AM |
People are whatīs wrong with the world. We think, therefore we kill. The
world, life, ideas, nothing is safe for our own wrath. Our minds are
clogged and saturated with ideas of ignorance, bigotry, prejudice and petty
problems.
We will result in our own downfall. ____________________
 but at least you know, just how much pain there is in living
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/7/2002 at 05:25 PM |
| Soylent Green IS People...and now, at special cut-rate bargain prices, you
can get new Soylent Green Lite, made from gatorade-drinking, nonsmoking,
exercising, healthy WASPS...completely bland...but hey...itīs better than
eatinī bums. ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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callei
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 759 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/7/2002 at 09:56 AM |
| Diet soilent green, from waist(waste) watchers! now available in breakfast
bars and tastey shakes! try it today and see the difference mass murder for
style can make in your life! ____________________
Real goths wear silver and crosses to keep the werewolves and vampires
away.
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/7/2002 at 10:08 PM |
Donīt forget, Soylent Salsa Verde...have a problem with illegal
immigrants...not any more! And with every two boxes of Soylent Salsa Verde,
you can get NEW NEW NEW...Nacho Soylent Green...
Yessiree...the solution to all our little problems. ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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