W0rmW00d
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posted on 25/5/2005 at 10:20 AM |
Has it always been like this and I just didn't notice, or is it, as I
suspect, only within the last ten years that everything that made society
worthwhile has collapsed?
The rise of the political gossip magazine in the place of the newspaper
appears to have ruined all political debate. It has reduced democracy to a
three issue argument. Every election there are three things picked over and
bickered about rather than a real statement of intent being given by all
political parties in an attempt to win an election for ones principles.
Instead it has turned into another pageant where we look and think 'hmm,
that one is flashy' then get a little talent contest of 'we can run the
health service'
'well we can crack down on crime'
then the bitching comes with 'no you can't'
'no you cant'
then we are given a little spiel about the hopes and aspirations of the
party leader, which all sound suspiciously like platitudes.
This comes over the backdrop of 'ooooh, Mr Blair and Mr. Bush are wearing
new ties to their meetings, this shows that they want to impress.' In other
words politics has become a way of trivialising life in favour of a
show.
The free press has died. Every newspaper is part of a larger conglomerate
with its own political agenda and spin that works towards the aims of its
owner rather than the people whom the press is supposed to serve. I am
sure that I remember the honest reporting of the Times being worth reading,
rather than a Gossip Rag about David Beckham, and although the Torygraph
has always been rabidly right wing it used to make right wing points like
'hang the poor' instead of sleaze-slinging 'Blair's No. 1 man had an
affair' Newspapers have become bitches.
For this I blame the television. Almost all of the creativity has been
drained from programming. We are treated to season 25 of sex in the city
instead of season 1 of something fresh, interesting and entertaining.
Because, as with the newspapers, nobody is prepared to take a risk on
something that may not be lapped up by an eager herd. Why do we need to see
how breast implants are done more than once a week? There was a day, within
my memory, when you would only ever see one thing on cosmetic surgery
within a year, and that would be a one off documentary, not a 12 part
series of freakshows. And then there is Big Brother and Jerry
Springer....
They exist because we have become a world obsessed with inconsequential and
pointless celebrity. Because we are forced to see so much of each of them
the celebrities with a reason, such as sports stars, film stars and
musicians, quickly bore us. We now demand that WE TOO can be in a fashion
magazine. Whether the public love or hate this years Celebrity creating
sideshow, like Pop Idle [mis-spelling intended], they will still be in the
public eye. Much like an over-protesting athiest creates his own God to
protest against. Merely by saying 'Oh, John from Love Island pisses me off,
the way he is in the paper all the time' ligitimises his celebrity by
acknowledging it. It is a trap.
A trap much like the death of true protest. Because nike, 'gothic clothing'
companies and the like can commercialise a rebellion within weeks a
counter-culture becomes filled instantly with the 'me too'-ers who have no
concept of why they wear a red bracelet, but have been told that that is
what to wear. A movement can gain no momentum becuase the inertia of all
of the dead weight holds it back and makes a mockery of the original
protest, rebellion or whatever. It is the true genius of commercialism that
any anti-comercialism can be immediately absorbed and intergrated into a
commercial.
'I don't buy it because I am told to, I buy it because its the best' Says
the man drinking Pepsi.
As I say, It may have always been like this, but I am certain that I have
seen an acceleration of all of the above effects within the space of time
that...........the proliferation of the internet has taken place. Yes,
thats right folks. I am honestly saying that the internet has played a
contributing role in this. Because it is now so very easy to track, ask
for, or buy peoples habits, tastes and beleifs over the internet market
research has become so effective that it has now actually outgrown itself
and creates tastes instead of measuring and recording them. Creativity has
been stagnated because it is no longer necessary for success, and is far
more difficult to find. Market research will find, I beleive, more and more
that what people want is 'another one just like the first one but a little
smaller, a little faster and with a brighter screen.' Similarly the
political stagnation of our respective countries (I refer here to America
as most here are US, and Britain, because it is my country) owes an awful
lot to the computerisation of the polling processes. It is now so easy to
find accurate data on each and every person's political bent that politics
are being tailored to win power by promising what the opposition want to
bring them around to your side, which is why you would no longer be able to
tell the difference between Republican and Democrat, Conservative or
Labour, if it wasn't for th personalities involved and....what colour
ribbon they wear.
All is not lost just yet. The internet holds some great white hopes but
they are not the point of this diatribe.
Is it just me? or does all of this ring true for others also? ____________________
Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world.
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Abbadon
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posted on 4/7/2005 at 12:15 PM |
May I request that my eloquently masterful and conceptually rife associate
produce a treatise on 'Anarcho Syndicalism and its benefits'. A subject on
which I know he is both knowledgable and would be pleased to write. I
enjoyed and was enlivened by our recent converse on the subject and would
be delighted to learn more. If you can't be bothered to write it we'll just
have a chat about it down t'pub.
BB. ____________________
Light is changing to shadow, and casting a shroud over all we have known.
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BlueLinn
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posted on 1/7/2005 at 10:16 AM |
I'll send a couple of photographs if you could just get him to sign them
for me....
[Edited on 7/1/2005 by BlueLinn] ____________________
When the world is over, will we wonder how it began?
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/6/2005 at 09:59 PM |
| I'll send you the duffel bag. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Meranda_Jade
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posted on 28/6/2005 at 08:19 AM |
| It says he'll be back in Dayton August 3rd. I'll try to grab him then. ____________________
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/6/2005 at 07:38 AM |
| bettie: According to this website
http://www.bruce-campbell.com/index.htm , Bruce was in Seattle, WA
yesterday for the book signing. (That is if the dates and places haven't
been changed and just not updated on the website.) ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/6/2005 at 10:48 PM |
MJ I'm going to go cry in the corner now. It's alright dahlink, next time
he swings through my neck of the woods I'll assault his brain and ego
myself  ____________________
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gothicmorman
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posted on 25/6/2005 at 04:20 PM |
quote:
feral: If you're
interested in asserting your superiority in a childish way: I have some
ear-wax which you are almost certainly funnier than, and which you may have
commented on the decay of society before.
shush. he has every right to say that. and he makes a valid point. The
world changes all the time. change, obviously, mean it becomes different
than it used to be and no matter what that change is there will be the
people who say "What happened with this? it has all gone to shit." your
parents probably said it at one point, your grandparents probably said it
at one point. eventually i will probably be saying the same thing. it is
simply the product of change. everyone alive has different thought on how
it should be done.
now wormwood im sorry but i disagree with you. and maybe that is
because im young and jaded but i wont realize that until i am at least 25,
maybe 30. the world is perfectly fine just like it has always been and will
always be. starting with your particular complaints about politics, the
magazines and newspapers have turned into gossip about scandals that may or
may not exist - ok, so talk to people instead. politicians campains lead
then all around the country, try to ask then your questions in person. if
they can't take the time to talk to the people would they be a good leader
anyway? maybe you could write an article and submit it to the newspaper
yourself. continuing on this point - magazines are corporate setups to get
young kids to confoum to celebrity sized standards and brainwash the
general public into not thinking about world events like war. so stop
reading them! read a book for gods sake! it is perfectly fine to read
things that don't have pictures. for anyone who does need the pictures
there are plenty of books for kids that have pictures on every page. i
recommend you "Bicycle Bear" it is a very good book. just give him a ring
and he'll be there! on to the next point. TV is frying your brain? nothing
good on? can you guess what im going to say next? go outside. there is sun,
there is shade, there is even semi shade, it could be raining but umbrellas
are cheap at the local dollar store. walk there it is good for the
enviroment. dollar stores don't go fashion corporate, not that i've seen
anyway. they are essentially "what can we get and sell really cheap while
still making a profit". the whole gothic and punk fashion show is mostly in
the fashionable stores, so shop at value village or mcc or any random
consignment store - most town have a least one thrift shop. so what if you
can't find what you want. now that you have turned off the tv and stopped
buying all those magazines you have the money buy fabric and the time to
learn to sew.
it is not that hard to live outside the media. just dont pay so close
attention. i cant even remember the last time i turned on a tv or even saw
a commercial. one of the best magazine i will randomly flip open is "weekly
update" at seven eleven because it is funny as hell and they are not too
bad with photoshop. when online i go to forums, like this one, not
abcnews.net/com and a half. you say britney spears but i have barely heard
anything about her for 3 or 4 years. why? because it is not important, it
is in the magazines but nobody talks about it because it is simply not
important. I heard about Ronald Reagan dying though. lots of people liked
him.
quote:
The bumble bee flies
because it believes it can.
scandals keep being reported, and tv shows keep getting replayed and
creativity keeps getting squashed because the crowd does not demand it.
like stated creativity is not needed for success because the crowds keep
loving and watching and reading what is already there. even still there is
motion, people working to break into new technologies or make watermelons
into purple triangles or what. if people just stoped watching tv it would
have to get new shows or better shows to attract people back to it or it
would simply have to stop running.
go outside, get fresh air, walk somewhere, it is better than driving.
humans are just a passing phase anyway but we might as well take a little
care for the enviroment while were here, it is better for our own health as
well. the world is perfectly fine, it always has been, it is a
lot older than us. eventually we will all die out and be
grown over and decompose and there will be nothing left of what was once
humans except and we will replace the oil and push up all the trees and
flowers we cut down. gone full circle.
anywho, the main point is that the crumbling media is encouraging us to get
off our asses and do real things instead of sit in front of a tv and read
real literature instead of "how to have better sex" articles. if you want
better sex, go experiment... as long as you are of some appropriate age.
somehow i don't see something wrong being forced to go outside. and if your
parents are worried about being able to contact you, tell them the number
is 42.
end rant now.
[Edited on 6/25/2005 by gothicmorman]
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Meranda_Jade
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posted on 25/6/2005 at 05:51 AM |
Damn, it was yesterday and I thought it was today! I missed it! *cries* He
will probably be back eventually. Look for him in your local bookstores...
he's signing a book called, "Make Love The Bruce Campbell Way". I'm sorry,
bettie.
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/6/2005 at 11:39 PM |
oh lordy that totally slipped my mind! Tell him and see what he thinks,
and his wish is our command. And tell him I named my little orphan kitten
bruce, an that I have a trapdoor in my house like the one in evil dead, and
that I watch every sam raimi movie hoping to see a cameo and that The
Adventures of Brisco County Jr. was the best tv show EVER. And that he's
my favorite. YES!  ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Meranda_Jade
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posted on 24/6/2005 at 11:00 PM |
| Oh yeah.... Tinkerbell will be there too... the actress who was the model
for Disney's Peter Pan Tinkerbell. ____________________
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Meranda_Jade
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posted on 24/6/2005 at 10:58 PM |
| Speaking of zombies... Bruce Campbell is going to be at my local Books &
Co. signing his new book this weekend, should I tell him about the campaign
to get a hollywood boulevard star, or has that been dropped? ____________________
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BlueLinn
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posted on 24/6/2005 at 07:32 PM |
| bettie, all I have to say about that is .... zombies.... lots and lots of
zombies.... ____________________
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/6/2005 at 12:56 AM |
| see what we need in order to bring about unity of the global community is a
global disaster that wipes out all electric funds and debts and most of the
population so we can all just forget about the bullshit and focus on
surviving. I'm thinking Art Bell's "the coming global superstorm" type
disaster. Yes, I'm in the 100% fatality zone (up north) but eh, survival
of the fittest and all. I'll take one for the team, as long as my cats and
rats and dog are on a train to texas. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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BlueLinn
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posted on 22/6/2005 at 03:03 PM |
| probably A:.... and they were bored..... ____________________
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bettie_x
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posted on 22/6/2005 at 01:00 AM |
| I'm a bit bored with the mayan calendar bit, personally. Anyone ever
thought that maybe they figured that A) it'd be pointless to go any further
as they would most surely be DEAD by THEN or B) they'd get a hillarious
kick out of everyone flipping out that they didn't put it any further.
Think of it as a primitive Y2K syndrome. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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BlueLinn
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posted on 21/6/2005 at 03:31 PM |
the condition of the world is all relative through whatever faction is
viewing it. if you are say, republican: (been listening to too much rush
and Imus) you are sick of hearing about how good the prisoners at
guantanamo (not sure of spelling) are being treated and if you are
Democrat, you are crying out about how poorly they are being treated.
.. the condition of the world, as with everything, is relative.
(this is not including the non-partisan, moderate, etc. etc. only an
example)
... or you could always toss it off to the world is going to end in 7 years
at the end of the mayan calender. but that would be if you were
appocolyptic.
[Edited on 6/21/2005 by BlueLinn] ____________________
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/6/2005 at 09:47 AM |
| Well don't I feel special, you made it three lines in. I'm going to print
that and put it in my special memories box. ____________________
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Abbadon
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posted on 5/6/2005 at 04:01 PM |
| feral: If you're interested in asserting your superiority in a childish
way: I have some ear-wax which you are almost certainly funnier than, and
which you may have commented on the decay of society before. ____________________
Light is changing to shadow, and casting a shroud over all we have known.
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Abbadon
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posted on 5/6/2005 at 03:58 PM |
Couldn't be bothered to read past the first 3 lines.
Looks good though (looks long).
8 for effort.
Your medal is in the post.
Solidarity brother! ____________________
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