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Sticupus
Fanatic   Posts: 254 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/6/2003 at 09:33 PM |
I created this forum to expose the disgusting acts and most frightening and
biggest corporations of them all, Wal-Mart.
Here is my favorite treat of the night. Everyone, join in on the fun!
http://texassportfishing.com/editorial2.htm ____________________
The OBOLISK is Divine.
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Xaoswolf
Fanatic  Posts: 463 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 2/7/2003 at 08:02 AM |
The thing I find interesting about sweat shops is that, while they would be
horrible in America, in other countries, they are the working norm at
times.
I read an article about a place where they sewed nike shoes together. By
American standards, the place sucked, but compared to the conditions of
other places in the area, the locals were glad that Nike was there.
Because Nike paid them as much as 8 times more than the local musinesses,
these people were able to save more money and send their kids off to
school. ____________________
Sometimes I dream about dinosaurs shopping for cargo shorts at the Gap.
Does that make me a bad person?
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 1/7/2003 at 11:22 AM |
OH, and xaos....
I can agree with you that you should not be making mucho denero as a
cashier. Entry level = entry pay, unfortunately people don't seem to see
things that way. In our state min wage is now $7 an hour and people STILL
bitch about how LOW it is! Well, uhm, excuse me, I was an assistant
manager for spencer gifts FOUR YEARS ago making $6 an HOUR. and THAT was
management. When I started, I was making about $4.88, when I was promoted
to supervisor I made a whopping $5.50. And these people are bitching
about getting $7 an hour to FOLD T SHIRTS. ANYWAY, if you hate working at
walmart and aren't making enough money, then yes get a second job or a
better one.
ONE more thing about the retail industry. It is not time intensive to
interview or train a cashier. Large corporate companies like Walmart have
people specificially for the purpose of sorting through applications,
recruiting, hiring, and training. Large companies also have regular
employee turnover and so it's an ongoing process, and everyone, yes
everyone is EXPENDABLE so the hiring/training process is no more expensive
nor time intensive than it usually is as it's an ongoing process. They
don't need to cover their losses if an employee dies, they'll simply refill
the position with another body that can push buttons and make change. To
them it's no big deal, they never see the faces of these actual people,
they're just files in the HR computer.
THE PROBLEM with specifically hiring and taking out life insurance policies
on the elderly without their knowledge or consent for the benifit of nobody
but the company profit margin is disgusting, as they see them even LESS as
employees or people and more like a way to make a quick buck of someone
that is going to die sooner rather than later, and for them the sooner the
better. Most of these elderly people are there sometimes for just
something to do, sometimes to suppliment their weak medicare coverage or
are on a fixed income that just isn't enough to make ends meet. They see a
company that advertises competitive pay, a friendly happy enviroment, good
medical coverage, and in turn the CEO is brimng them onboard and greedily
rubbing his hands thinking of the extra few bucks he'll gain when/if that
elderly person kicks off.
Compare that with the price tag fraud, seeking out merchandise that was
made under questionable working conditions (because it's always cheaper
from a sweatshop, isn't that right kathy lee?), and the fact that just
being IN a walmart makes my skin crawl, and you have one big bad business
and it STINKS.
SO what do I do about it? I won't work for them, I don't buy from them. I
don't set foot on their property, I don't encourage others to shop there.
I don't give them my business which is about all I can really do, but at
least I"m doing my part in not supporting, what is to me, a disgusting,
cheating, lying and filthy megacorporation. All I can do is sit back and
hope they burn themselves to the ground someday, and be pleased that I
never gave them my business. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/6/2003 at 11:18 PM |
| No see to pull an Enron they would have to be NOT making a profit and
falsifying their stock reports so that they've built up an insurmountable
debt/vs what they actually have. Walmart makes way too much money to do
that. They have no reason to falsify their earnings reports, they're
fuckin rich. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Sticupus
Fanatic Posts: 254 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/6/2003 at 03:35 PM |
| Wal-Mart might not spread like an evil blanket of endless death. I'm
thinking there is a chance it might pull an Enron. ____________________
The OBOLISK is Divine.
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Xaoswolf
Fanatic Posts: 463 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/6/2003 at 01:27 PM |
OK , so Wal-Mart pays shit for retail, whoopifreakingdoo
It's retail, if you are trying to raise a family on a cashiers wages, then
I'm sorry, you either need to loose the family or find a better job.
People have been doing it for years, either working two jobs or finding
better paying jobs. If enough people leave, then Wal-Mart, will either go
out of business or raise their wages. But instead people would rather stay
there and complain, I say oh well, sit in your hell of a job and take the
shit they give you, it's all you deserve.
I lived in a reletively small town, and all the new walmart managed to do
was put the already out of comission K-mart into the toilet(although it's
still there and open for business) There are several mom and pop stores
still there, and they are not in any fear of being pushed out of business
any time soon.
And as for the life insurance thing, remember, it was only illegal in
Texas. The rest of the country will let you do it. Shit, if I had a large
corporation, I'd put a policy on all of my employees. First, I have to
train them, so if they die before I can get what I put into their training,
I'm screwed, after than, if they die on the job, I want extra money for
what ever court cases are about to come in. Or if they die elsewheres, I
have to pay to interview people for what ever position that now needs
filled. ____________________
Sometimes I dream about dinosaurs shopping for cargo shorts at the Gap.
Does that make me a bad person?
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/6/2003 at 09:20 AM |
Yay for walmart!
I was so glad to see that the hippies on TV during the WTO riots had their
demon walmart signs up. Hippies know where it's AT.
What I don't understand is that if people want inexpensive clothing, there
are chains like TJ MAX and Ross that are pretty much wholesale
clothing/housewares stores, where they buy surplus and clothes from
companies going out of biz or "imperfect" garments (that have nothing wrong
but perhaps a seam that isn't perfectly straight or whatnot) and they
advertise ON THE PRODUCT that it's "imperfect", and return sell them at
cheap ass prices. Sure you have to dig for the good stuff, but it's worth
it.
I figure that one of these days we will finally see walmart fall. I don't
think it's going to be easy, and I know it's going to be ugly, but I shall
dance when they do.
And for the record, I am one of those obsessive types that checks my
reciepts and watches the cashier when I buy stuff. *I* do register work
all the time, and *I* screw up on occasion, so goofup that is
understandable or sleazeball cheating usually does not get by me. I even
watched several news reports on big chain grocery stores where the price in
the computer was WAY diff from the price on the shelf due to computer error
or company sneakiness. I once had a girl ring me up for veggie broth
($0.75) that came up to $7 a CAN on my reciept! She didn't even notice,
but I DID, and told her that unless the shit got me HIGH she made a BIG BOO
BOO.
Regardless of the company it is ALWAYS buyer-be-ware, and you always have
to be on the lookout for goofups or dirty pool. Walmart just seems to have
perfected the game. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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callei
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 759 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/6/2003 at 06:44 AM |
The sick thing is that they dont charge less. they just say they do.
according to some pending class action suits, they are going to get to pay
buckets for this illegal practice.
They have one price on the wall, say the sale price, and the 'old' price,
then the computer at the register has a third price in it that is higher
than the starting price and often as much as 30% higher than the so called
sales price.
Per customer it is usually only a few dollars a visit, but if you multiply
that by the thousands that shop there everyday and the 100's of locations,
its becomes a relaly big number really fast for them.
I am soo waiting for the law suits. *wants to see them grovel for theft
from the 'Merikan People, thier neighbors.*
I mean think about it, someone goes there because they think they are going
to save say 5 dollars, and instead they pay 5 dollars more. that is 10
bucks to their mental wallet. and since many people arent good enough at
math to be able to see that they are being gouged, wal-mart gets an extra 5
bucks, the buyer gets to feel dumber and hate the govt for the high taxes
(since many people blame the different between what they thought they were
going to pay and what they do pay on sale tax), and the rest of us get to
see people walking around in cheap, disposable clothes that fit badly, have
harsh toxic dyes in them, and, in the case of shoes, damage thier feet.
All the sickness that comes from thier "savings" comes out of the money the
rest of us pay for healthcare and income taxes. yay walmart! get everyone
to pay for your crimes for you!
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Real goths wear silver and crosses to keep the werewolves and vampires
away.
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gothicmorman
Fanatic  Posts: 233 Registered: 11/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/6/2003 at 01:41 AM |
yay! im not the only one, i hate wal-mart too, ther an evil american store
trying to take over our country!!! and ther just plain evil too (like
mcdonalds), and just for reference im canadian.
big yellow face? lol, never thoght of it that way, just thoght it was a
happyface forced into serving time as a corporate logo as punishment for
unrelased reasons... *sigh* poor happyface...
ikea is a good store, i think...
we should all boycott walmart!grrr....
the ruthless
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AloneSoul
Fanatic  Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/6/2003 at 10:51 PM |
oh man the world is going to hell
those rat bartsards paved over another wooded area just to build a new wall
mart
how many of those fucking things do we need!? honestly. ____________________
 but at least you know, just how much pain there is in living
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Dense
Member   Posts: 73 Registered: 5/6/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 19/6/2003 at 12:16 AM |
| The problem with a wal-mart boycot is that red necks primarly shop at
wal-mart. Try convenceing a red neck that he sould not shop at wal-mart.
You will run away screaming. I am not man enough for that. I am not saying
every one that shops at wal-mart is a red neck. But if you remove them from
wal-marts consumers you have hit there bank account hard. ____________________
i am a misunderstood genius... Nobody understands that i am a genius!
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Ironboots
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/6/2003 at 08:04 PM |
I have nightmares of It dressed up as Robin Hood, a cowboy, and other
eccentric costumes...
oh wait, that's real life... *is scared*
I agree with Stic. We should boycott. Only trouble is getting enough
numbers convinced. A lot of people won't want to pay higher prices at the
competitor's store, even though its worth it. ____________________
Piggy's got the Conch!
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Sticupus
Fanatic Posts: 254 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/6/2003 at 06:20 PM |
| Oh yes. The Yellow Face of Death. ____________________
The OBOLISK is Divine.
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Erishkigal
Member  Posts: 62 Registered: 5/10/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/6/2003 at 03:39 PM |
| I only just discovered that we have Walmarts here in England, but they are
known as Asda. Do Americans also have to put up with that creepy giant
yellow face? ____________________
Let viagra bring the magic back.
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Sticupus
Fanatic Posts: 254 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/6/2003 at 02:18 PM |
"Perhaps this is part of WalMart's scheme - pay shit, so people have shit
to spend. Then they'll have to shop at WalMart because that's all they can
afford. All the companies in the area follow WalMart's pay example. So all
their employees have to shop at WalMart, too. So WalMart gets more money
from more sales, and retains more by paying their employees less. So they
have the funds to open a new WalMart in another area. So the cycle starts
all over again."
Go Schizo! Exactly the idea the have in mind. ____________________
The OBOLISK is Divine.
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Sticupus
Fanatic Posts: 254 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/6/2003 at 01:57 PM |
http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/corporate/wal-mart/
Everything from clothes, to sports gear, to tires, and pets can be bought
at Wal-Mart at very cheap prices. They don't have to necessarily offer a
superior product to their competitors, just a cheaper, more convenient one.
In doing this, small business suffer or blink out. The local boutique,
sports supply store, the mechanic, and pet store all go out of business
because they just can’t offer a better price and lose business in the
glamour and convenience of a super Wal-Mart. What happens to those workers
then? They go get a job at Wal-Mart. Minimum wage unless you work there for
20+years, and no health benefits. Now this wouldn’t be that devastating to
large cities, because the amount of people in the area actually shelter the
impact of Wal-Mart due to supply and demand, and the population. People can
afford to shop else where too. But there are several small country towns
that have nothing but a Wal-Mart. No other businesses exist in these
places. Everyone works there and buys there. Full dependency.
Wal-Mart is definitely a problem. The way the corporation behaves is hard
to manage. It first off sells everything. This is a gigantic problem-
reasons being is that other companies cannot survive due to competition.
And another thing due to that problem is that it isn’t a true monopoly,
thus the government cannot intervene without making new laws. If it only
sold just tires, or just sporting goods, and had its same success, the
government would slap regulation on it fast. As of right now, there is
little anyone can do to control Wal-Mart or regulate it, or tame its
expansion. Imagine if there was no other place to buy things or work at
other than Wal-Mart. It’s happening in some small towns today. That’s a
frightening idea.
It gets worse. Wal-Mart is a very conservative corporation. It censors all
CDs in its music section. It does not sell CDs with offensive language.
Even if you are an adult, and you want to listen to Lil’ Kim’s Hardcore
album, it is either not there, or watered down and censored. Shouldn’t you
have the right to buy a CD with offensive language if you want to? Wal-Mart
doesn’t think so. Of course you can just take your business somewhere else-
unless you live in one of those unfortunate small towns who’s record store
went out of business. Sure people can always go online and find their CDs,
but in the name of convenience they might just buckle down and go to
Wal-Mart. That’s your rights down the tube.
Second in the “It gets worse list” Wal-Mart is very, how shall we say-
‘Anti- Female‘. If you have a prescription for birth control or RU486, and
it’s you goddamned right to purchase it via Roe v. Wade- you should keep in
mind that Wal-Mart refuses to hold or sell certain contraceptive drugs at
its pharmacy. So if you live in that small country town, you either have to
get in you car and go somewhere else (if you can afford the gas money on
your barely 18k a year salary), or shut up and have the kid like women are
'supposed' to. What gives a corporation the right to regulate people like
this?
Also, their staff is 75% women, but men hold 66% of the high ranking
positions. And Last time I checked there were no female district
managers.
Wal-Mart could set a national trend for low wages (18k, and if you want
health care it‘s $3,000, plus a deductible- therefore you cannot afford
it), dependency on it’s business, a undereducated low training work force
may dominate the new employment trend, and it can regulate your activity
through censorship and refusing to give out contraceptives because the CEOs
are pro-life, and put women back a century. Not to mention they may give
you a decent pay raise after working there for decades, but remember, they
might have an insurance policy on your head as to make profit from your
death.
The bush administration is not one to kindly regulate such brewing monsters
of the corporate world. And with the growing governmental power of
corporations, any legislation or legal action against them could not be
around for a long time; perhaps after people suffer enough to effect votes.
What’s the current solution? Fucking Boycott. ____________________
The OBOLISK is Divine.
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Abbadon
Fanatic  Posts: 499 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/6/2003 at 09:30 AM |
| Quaint. ____________________
Light is changing to shadow, and casting a shroud over all we have known.
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/6/2003 at 07:31 AM |
I am a huge, fucking hypocrite.
I shop at WalMart. While I read these posts and links, and am justly
horrified by the facts I find, I still plan to shop at WalMart.
Because, no matter how horrible their policies, WalMart sells the cheapest
diapers, and cheapest just about anything else I can find around here.
They have the biggest selection, and they're located very conveniently for
me with my busy schedule.
If I had the choice, (in other words, if I had the money), I would shop
elsewhere. I would far rather buy an entertainment center made of real
wood instead of laminated particle board, made by local craftsmen, and pay
a fair price. But I can't.
I look around my apartment and see other things besides the entertainment
center that came from WalMart - the corkboard, the whiteboard, the lamp,
the pillar candles, the phone, the computer desk, the PlayStation, the
baby's high chair, and if I opened the cupboards and closets, I would find
even more stuff.
Perhaps this is part of WalMart's scheme - pay shit, so people have shit to
spend. Then they'll have to shop at WalMart because that's all they can
afford. All the companies in the area follow WalMart's pay example. So
all their employees have to shop at WalMart, too. So WalMart gets more
money from more sales, and retains more by paying their employees less. So
they have the funds to open a new WalMart in another area. So the cycle
starts all over again.
WalMart has its chains around poor America, and I am indignant, the more so
because they have their chains around me as well! ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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Sticupus
Fanatic Posts: 254 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/6/2003 at 09:05 PM |
| -=gets out the scotch tape, the cattle prod and rubber gloves=- Yes, Mara.
For your own good. ____________________
The OBOLISK is Divine.
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Ironboots
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/6/2003 at 05:50 PM |
Where's the reincarnation of Teddy Roosevelt when you need him to bust up
big business? And a few more national parks couldn't hurt, either...
Mara, be quiet! This is for your own good! ____________________
Piggy's got the Conch!
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