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Articles: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again |
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Schizo on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 04:03 AM PST
What do you do when someone threatens to let the air out of your tires if you don't do what she says, but you can't report her to the police because you can't prove she said it, and they're all her friends anyway?
That's what the psycho-slut did to us Friday. She wanted us to take my boyfriend's daughter overnight. She said she'd drop her off at 5 on Saturday. My boyfriend told her that we couldn't take her, and that we wouldn't even be home at 5. We had a lot of shopping to get done that day, and practically no food in the house. The psycho said if we weren't there she'd let the air out of our tires. (I know, you're thinking, "how could she let the air out of the tires if you weren't there." But my boyfriend's truck would be there, and she also knows where we go grocery shopping, so if she wanted she could go there.)
We would love to take his daughter overnight, but we only have one bedroom, so his daughter would have to sleep on the living room couch, and my boyfriend's on a second shift schedule. Which means, once the kids go to bed, the only place he could hang out without waking them up would be the bathroom! Of course, he could go to bed then, too, but that would be like a first shifter going to bed at 4 or 5!
Well, we called her bluff. She didn't do anything. Probably her boyfriend wouldn't let her. But of course she had to come over and bitch. She gave her daughter a long speech to make her daddy feel guilty (which lost its punch when the little girl turned around and asked her mommy what she was supposed to say next!) Then she threatened to take my boyfriend to court. Then she went through an elaborate dodging-the-issue game, by changing the subject everytime my boyfriend tried to argue with her. Everytime he was about to pin her down, she would say "no I'm not!" and immediately accuse him of something that had nothing to do with visitation, but do it in a way that almost made you think it was connected. She finally left.
I'm so sick of her! But she's right - the cops are on her side. What can I do?
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again
by Squire-of-Gothos (Brian0049@hotmail.com)
on Jan 21, 2003 - 04:09 AM
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I"ve had similar situations. Some punk kid decided I hated girlfriend, and threatened to kill me in my front lawn. I took little of it, until the next morning my car's rear window was shattered and the tire was slashed. The police could do nothing, and I was left fearing for my life and out 300 dollars in repairs.
Baseball bat to the knees, dry-wall hammer to the head, works like a charm. Or you could purosefully provoke her into doing something, and catch her in the act with a hidden video camera, the cops eat that shit up. In reality the legal sytem fails the general public 99.95% of the time, and it high time we moved to Canada.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
on Jan 21, 2003 - 10:49 AM
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You can park away from your apartment in an obscure spot, avoid it, or well hell, call her bluff and see what happens. The worst is she lets the air out of your tires, so just get a pump, and don't let it bother you. Or she could slash your tires, which sucks BIG time (and by far both are the most JUVENILE thing in the whole fucking world). All you can do is just report every threat she makes, and every even that "happens" until eventually she's caught. Does your apartment complex have security? The one I used to live at (cobble court affectionately nicknamed "compton court") was regularly patroled by police. If you have security or regular patrols, let them know what's going on and see if they can't sort of keep an extra eyeball on your space.
Next time she shows up, for whatever reason, the minute she starts acting up tell her to leave. IMMEDIATELY. Not angrily, play it as cool as you can, tell her that when she's calm she can come back over and resume her conversation. If she refuses to leave, call the police as she's raving in the background so they can at least HEAR the dimwit.
Above play it as cool as you can handle, and do everything you can to make her feel like the fool she is. She'll either go away, or she'll be pushed SO far by your lack of response that she'll do something that will get her caught, and then problem solved.
I agree that if you can somehow get or buy a video camera, park right by your apartment window and set it up in the window whenever you leave.
This woman is a fount of idle threats...but sometimes they actually get the cajones to follow through. You just have to catch them in their moment of stupidity/bravery.
Good luck babe. If all else fails..>VOODOO!
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by Arthegarn on Jan 21, 2003 - 01:33 PM
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Well, first of all remember the parable about the poor widow ant the wicked judge. Keep the faith in the system.
But then again you of all people know what it's keeping the faith so give it a hand. I strongly suggest you record the conversations in an audio tape. That's not hard to come by, it's not expensive and it's legal to record your own conversations in your own home. Ask her to leave as soon as she upsets you, kindly but firmly. Warn her that she is in your home and if she doesn't leave immediately you'll have her prosecuted at once. Let her boast all she wants, and don't lose your nerves. You can also call the police to inform them you have and intruder home, which is not technically a lie.
When you have three of these tapes, go find a lawyer. Your wonderful system allows for the cuota litis agreement (the 40% thing) so you don't actually need any money. Ask him to sue her form both physical, psychologycal and moral damage AND get that goddamned restraining order that you and your stability need. You have been enduring her since before you even had Riley, I really think it's been enough time.
I know you don't want to put your BF through any more than he is already going through, after all she is the mother of (two of) his kids but think about your daughter. That woman should be kept as far away from her as possible.
And... Well, you know... You could just post a picture of her and give some data... We are a lot here in Shmeng... Accidents happen...
Hold on, girl! You're doing a superb job!
Arthegarn
PS: Anyone attempting to sue or prosecute me for what I just stated should know what Animus Jocandi is
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Re: Grumble by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Jan 22, 2003 - 02:20 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/ | Accidents *wink wink* happen all the time, after all....saying "stuff tends to happen" doesn't mean YOU'LL do it or any of US will do it, but well...
she could just so happen to choke on her gum.
or piss off someone with less patience than the two of them.
or get hit by a bus.
Schitz you should get a job driving busses.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again
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on Jan 21, 2003 - 02:09 PM
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Wow! This person seems to be one ferocious bitch! The easiest (and certainly evilist) way to screw with her is through her daughter which she's obviously doing to yor boyfriend so give her a taste of her own medicine.
This is a difficult attack because yoo really don't want to get the little girl caught in the crossfire but there are still options.
If that's a path yor unwilling to walk, however, and yor okay with giving this asshole a taste of her own medicine, try dropping a marble into her gas tank. What happens is the vaccum created by the car running will suck the marble into the engine and the marble will clog the fuel line causing the car to stall. The genius is that when the car stalls the vacuum stop and the marble drops back down meaning the dumb bitch will get the car going another block or so before it stalls again.
Eeeeeeeeeeeevil!!!
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again
by Merry_Widow on Jan 21, 2003 - 03:32 PM
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Whatever you do, don't forget to lay down a good tarp and always, always, double bag the left overs. I can't stress that enough.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by Dolorosa (SixOfSwords@IU.zzn.com) on Jan 23, 2003 - 06:21 PM (User info | Send a Message) | Good point babe, also...to keep her from struggling or calling out, hat tar over the head does wonders. Personally I suggest a cinderblock to the head from an elevated position...if violence isn't your way, give a homeless guy five bucks to stalk her. |
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by Dolorosa (SixOfSwords@IU.zzn.com) on Jan 23, 2003 - 06:21 PM (User info | Send a Message) | Good point babe, also...to keep her from struggling or calling out, hot tar over the head does wonders. Personally I suggest a cinderblock to the head from an elevated position...if violence isn't your way, give a homeless guy five bucks to stalk her. |
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again
by Schizo (Aranea@spidersdance.com)
on Jan 21, 2003 - 04:14 PM
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I called the town police and asked them what to do in this sort of situation. Without naming names, of course. They told me to tell her not to come to my house except to drop off or pick up the kids. They said if she showed up again, call them and they'll tell her the same thing. They said if that didn't work, and she still shows up, that she can be arrested for criminal trespass.
Then I talked to my boyfriend. It seems I've left out an important detail. The little bitch has poisoned the force's minds against him. If he so much as twitches, they'll throw his ass in jail. If I call them to my house, and my boyfriend is there, and he's had even as much as one drink, they'll probably can him right there. I'm not exaggerating. After all, they arrested him once because he was being attacked by the little slut.
Chances are, the police won't do that. But still, there's enough of a chance that it makes us both extremely nervous to even think of inviting the police into our home. I feel like I'm in fucking Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia. I swear, we've got to get out of this town! That's the only answer.
That and voodoo. I think she's pushed me far enough. Normally I hate the thought, but there's an exception to every rule.
That marble idea sounds pretty cool! Maybe I'll try that!
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by Schizo (Aranea@spidersdance.com) on Jan 22, 2003 - 06:08 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://http:// | Yeah, I figure in this situation, voodoo is entirely justified.
After all, we're in a somewhat helpless situation legally, and she knows it and throws it in our face at times like these. She thinks she's got us cornered, so she can do whatever she wants.
In a way, her karma has shown up without any hexing from my direction. After all, she's homeless, living with a mother she doesn't get along with AT ALL (maybe because they're too much alike!), with a pathetic little loser of a boyfriend who is a fucking CRYBABY (she says so herself), and at least some slight form of cervical cancer (but definitely not the level 4 shit she was pretending she had!)
But apparently, that's not enough. Apparently she hasn't even begun to learn her lesson. And since the cops won't teach it to her, maybe Bettie Voodoomistress can!
Something pointed and unmistakable. Something that she can't help connecting with the way she is mistreating us. Something that will make her scared to fuck with us. And above all, something that won't hurt those poor kids.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Jan 22, 2003 - 11:46 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/ | I don't understand where the legal helplessness comes from.
Your boyfriend is legally allowed to drink in his own home, period. If she is in YOUR house, on YOUR property, for ANY reason SHE is the trespasser, and can't do shit to you in your own home. I know it doesn't seem that way, but it's true. A MINOR in ANY state can drink alcohol in THEIR OWN HOME behind closed doors with their legal guardian present. Alcohol is a legal substance for adults to posess and drink in their homes. It's not illegal for alcoholics to drink, it's not illegal for abusers to drink, it's not illegal for ANYONE who is an adult to drink...past criminal record or NOT.
She THINKS she has the upper hand....so don't let her have it. She doesn't. She's got squat.
Remember, she's got about as much evidence on him as you guys do on her, and well YOU guys can't do shit, so why can she?
So what you do is you GET evidence on her, set up a recorder (very cheap and easy to use, I have one myself! Well it's for recording bat sounds..but...eh...) or a cam and give her the rope to hang herself.
Just make sure that you protect yourselves at all cost. Don't call her or contact her unless you have to (like picking up the kids or something), and don't let your anger or emotions show or get the better of you. If possible, as silly as it sounds, whenever she comes over for whatever reason, tell your boyfriend the best place for him to be the entire time is ON HIS BUTT on the couch. It's less threatening, and hell if he's not even STANDING UP near her, how could he "do" anything to her? (as I'm sure she's said he's "done" stuff before). Plus if you can get it on tape that he sat on the couch the whole time, then you can prove in court that he is "non threatening" and did nothing to her, even if she lies (like from what you've said she commonly does).
You guys need to sit down and make a plan of action that you follow through with EVERY time she shows up. EVERY TIME. Because then it's less like a confrontation, and more like a routine, and routines are harder to break and easier to handle than a fresh situation that catches you off guard. It's like psyching up for an event...you change your mind set, your reactions, everything as soon as she steps through the door. It'll keep your asses out of the frying pan.
It's your home, your lives, so you guys NEED to take it back. You can, believe me, you can....it won't be pretty, but nothing worth fighting for is, and I imagine your peace of mind and happiness is more than worth it.
Email me about the other..stuff.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by Schizo (Aranea@spidersdance.com) on Jan 22, 2003 - 05:50 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://http:// | You don't understand the legal helplessness because you don't live in our town. You don't live in a town where it doesn't really matter if you've done anything wrong. If the cops don't like you, they'll stretch the truth if necessary. If the cops like you, they'll let you off almost invariably.
The whole alcohol thing goes like this - if my boyfriend was drinking, even one bottle of Smirnoff Ice, and the psycho comes and causes shit, they'll blame it on him, because he was "intoxicated". They've done it to him before. I'm serious.
We've thought before that she hadn't a legal leg to stand on. Then we found out that you don't need a legal leg in this town. Just some friends in the police force.
Now, if it were just me, I might have a chance. After all, her own sister DID call the cops on her and get her arrested when she was fighting with her boyfriend. But since my boyfriend is involved, and the cops "know" him, they'll find a way, even a fabricated one, to blame it on him.
And when it comes to court, who are they going to believe? The cops, or a guy with 2 counts of assault?
Like I said before, it may not happen. We may be able to nail this bitch. The cops may cooperate. But there is enough of a chance that the whole operation could backfire to scare us shitless.
Which is why we are trying with all our might to find a way out of this black hole of a town.
But the tape recorder is a good idea. Are you sure it's legal? I know in some instances at least, recording conversations without everyone's permission is illegal. But you're sure it's OK in your own home?
At the very least, we could play back her conversations to her and make it harder to change her story on us. And at the best, we can catch her making threats, etc., and get the restraining order I'm longing for. |
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Jan 23, 2003 - 07:00 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/ | Ugh. Backwater politics blow.
I think if you guys can do it, get out of that town. I'm sure it'll be hard, but just focus on that and nothing more.
Look up the laws for recording in your jurisdiction. You can even go to the police station and ask them for the info on that.
Most places, your home is your home and you can do whatever the hell you like in it, and record whatever the hell you WANT in it.
Just think of all those "nanny cams" that people set up to keep an eye on nannies, that sometimes results in videotaped evidence of abuse. usually all you have to do is tell the person ONE TIME that they are being recorded whenever they step foot on your premesis....they'll play it nice until they forget that the camera or tape is always rolling.
Look into that girl, it's your best bet right now.
Plus, a lot of lawyers have free consultations...it probably wouldn't hurt to schedule one just to see exactly what your rights are, and what to do. Tell them she's been harassing you, but also let them know right off his record with her and the police so that they know you are honest from the get go...go in with a list of questions, and stick to them and take notes. If it's free, you've got nothing to lose. They may tell you you're screwed, or they may give you an option that you haven't thought of before. I'd start flippin through the phone book and makin some calls.
I'd say your best route right now is no contact unless absolutely necessary, and as breifly as possible, as well as talking to a lawyer, and to focus on not letting it bleed into everyday life, as hard as that seems.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again
by Geist (tattooedslacker@yahoo.com)
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My mother is going through a similar situation with my step-father right now although he as been quite a bit more violent. I don't know where you're from or the exact laws in your area but the first question would be how are visitations arranged between your boyfriend and his children. If is is solely on his ex-wifes good will then I would reccomend getting a lawyer and have paperwork drawn up for a set visitation schedule in conjunction with a restraining order. This will most likely mean that the children will have to be dropped of with a 3rd party by their mother and then picked up by your boyfriend. Be careful with getting set visitations though, because if something comes up and your boyfriend can't pick them up when the papers says then she will most likely throw it in his face and say he can't have them.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by Schizo (Aranea@spidersdance.com) on Jan 21, 2003 - 05:33 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://http:// | I've thought of the whole third-party, restraining order stuff, but the third-party won't work as well without the restraining order, and with our current legal system in this town, the restraining order will be next thing to impossible to get. It's very frustrating.
My strategy is, to get the hell out of this town, then slam her for criminal trespass there, then get the restraining order, then get visitation through a third party. Or custody. As soon as we get a place that can accomodate the kids, we want to do that. It shouldn't be too hard, seeing as she lives with her mother, who steals drugs from the nursing homes she works at, and then gets high in front of the kids.
Damn, I hate this whole situation. I hate it for me, I hate it for my daughter, I hate it for my boyfriend, and above all I hate it for those poor kids who are caught in the middle.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again
by Closetgothbabe on Jan 21, 2003 - 07:33 PM
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My question is how often does he keep his daughter? Just kinda curious cause I know with my ex and my two kids it gets frustrating, he doesnt pay child support and doesnt hardly ever get the kids. For her to act like that though doesnt do any good and isnt what she should do. I have just come to terms that there dad isnt ever gonna change and not much I can do about it *shrugs*. Your daughter lives there also though right?
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by Schizo (Aranea@spidersdance.com) on Jan 21, 2003 - 08:41 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://http:// | My boyfriend picks up his son at school 3 or 4 times a week. He sees his daughter then, when he drops off his son. He takes the kids for several hours every weekend almost without fail, even when we were homeless. He pays $88 a week in child support. That's $44 per week per child. If our daughter got $44 a week spent on her, she'd think she'd died and went to toyland.
All he ever seems to talk about is how he wants to get a home where he can take custody of the kids. He talks about all he wants to give his children.
He drove himself nearly to suicide to keep that family together in spite of all their mother put him through. He ended up treating me like shit in the process, something he later deeply regretted.
But it's hard on him. Nothing he ever does is enough for him. As much as he loves his kids, she makes it so difficult that sometimes he just wants to run away and leave it all behind him. But he doesn't. He compromises with the bitch for the sake of the children. I hate it. He hates it.
This particular thing has been a battle point for a long time. When we lived in the transitional shelter (an apartment for homeless people who are trying to get a home), we were not allowed to have the kids overnight, and she would still try to pressure him to take them.
Now we live in a one-bedroom tiny apartment. Three people in one bedroom. And the living area and kitchen are all open to each other. So once the kids (if we had them over) went to sleep, the computer and TV would be off-limits. With the kids in the living area and the baby in the bedroom, the only room he could stay up in would be the bathroom.
In a two-bedroom apartment, we would be glad to take the children.
Unfortunately, the way this bitch nags and pressures and threatens is turning my boyfriend from an eager father to a reluctant one. We've tried to let her know as gently and politely as possible how her actions are making it harder for him to be a good father, thus damaging the children. But aparently she doesn't listen, or care, I'm not sure which.
I think, at this point, the only thing to do is to wait it out until we can get custody and a restraining order.
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Re: The Psycho-Slut Strikes Again by Closetgothbabe on Jan 21, 2003 - 09:12 PM (User info | Send a Message) | Not much you can do hun, I know its hard when you got a psycho that makes it hard on the other parent and makes it really hard on the kids. Its a sad thing *sighs* but he is at least trying and helping financially so she should be somewhat happy. I dont understand some people at all. She is obviously selfish and not very understanding to your situation. I hope things get better for ya though *hugs* |
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