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Author: Subject: pathetic.

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  posted on 11/9/2006 at 02:42 AM
Of course no one, and no age is special. All times have their own problems - the caveman had to worry about what he would do if the tip fell off his spear while hunting a Siberian tiger, and we worry about what will happen if the electricity goes off for too long. In both cases, it's good to have a back-up plan. Most people I know don't have one. We're lucky if we have a flashlight or a candle and lighter.

Humanity HAS gotten soft due to our pervasive technology, but we also have a better chance of surviving as long as that technology remains functional.

Personal survival has always been a person's most pressing concern, which is why our own time's problems always seem much bigger than any previous one's. When in fact it is only the same problem with a different twist.

In the caveman era, the issue was being defenseless against the elements and nature. Today, the issue is what if our elaborate defenses fail?

On the subject of the traffic jam full of monsters - yes, I have experienced that, too. I have also seen crowds of beautiful people - it all depends on the eye you decide to open. Everyone is a monster and everyone is beautiful, and the observer is probably being seen as one or the other by someone, too. We are all capable of disgusting atrocities and inconsistencies that can be seen with horror. We are all capable of amazing feats of love, grace, and sheer breath-taking beauty as well. You see what you are looking for. A wise man sees both, and realizes that no person, or crowd of people, is either an angel or a demon. A wise man identifies himself as a member of the crowd he is viewing, and the features he sees in others can be found in himself. I guess it is the same as realizing that all ages have the same struggles in a slightly different form - all humans are the same as well. It is as foolish to rant against oneself or against the rest of humanity as it is to rant against this age or against past ages.

If we are not to become paranoid of the technological apocalypse, then why are we to fear and loathe modern humanity? People have been greedy and ignorant since the beginning of history. Get used to it because it's not going to change any time soon. It's not any special problem of today.

Anyway, I've got to get back to what really matters. Gotta go out and club that wild boar and bring it home to my family at the cave and deal with the ugly masses of cave-humanity all day - I mean drive to work and bring home a paycheck and deal with gluttoneous American society. Hell, whatever - I just want to survive.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2006 at 06:37 AM
Mono... after reviewing threads and comments... you are right... I don't take correction well... but I realised also... that I take your posts personally because...1) I respected your opinion a great deal and 2) when you post an opposing view point... it is never couched as an opinion, but always presented as fact... and lastly 3) the tone of your posts, by me at least, has seemed decidedly condescending...

on the point of correction... I don't take it ungracefully either... I don't make a comment unless I have a well formed opinion... and even those (read back) have changed on the basis of what other's say... I believe you may have misinterpretted the willingness to fight for my thoughts as something different...

you have an apology for possible misinterpretation of your style of information presentation... it was not the information presented but the presentation itself...

take it for what it's worth...

 

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  posted on 11/9/2006 at 12:49 PM
Holy fuck, we've gotten nasty with each other, haven't we? The first real interesting discussion being debated here in a while, and it devolves into hurt feelings on all sides and attacks ensuing from everyone trying desperately to defend themselves. Haven't we learned from lessons in the past not to get personal with each other when debating? Right now, for some reason, everyone is extremely touchy and takes plain old disagreement or even civilized debate as a personal jab in their direction. This has to stop, people. We're all friends here, and friends can talk about things going on in the world without getting hurt feelings because they're disagreeing with each other on minor points. Mono was trying to elaborate on points that are of concern to him, Feral was doing the same. Somehow in there, some wires in communication got crossed and feelings got bruised on both sides. I have no idea what Domkitten was trying to point out with her posting... it didn't seem to be so much adding to the ongoing debate as just adding unneccessary fuel to the fire of hurt feelings. Debate is one thing... personal attacks are an entirely different animal. If you have nothing to add to the intellectual debate and are only trying to stir shit, please don't. It's a bad reflection on you and this entire site.

Schizo, thank you for continuing with the debate and ignoring the resulting unpleasantness. This is more of what we need from our members here.

And remember folks, "If you can't say nothin' nice... don't say nothin' at all."

(Yes, I know that is a double negative. I'm quoting verbatim from Bambi.)

 

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  posted on 11/9/2006 at 08:46 PM
I was mostly on about the link and the reason for posting it. It seemed to me that it being the “way I feel at the moment” and only to be appreciated by people with “an attention span longer then a goldfish” were rather harsh criticism in a thread where the discussion had gone from one of silly people posting things online, to technology and it benefits/detractions, to you don’t listen to anything I say and I’m superior in every way.

I thought it was unnecessary. If we are going to get into an argument about the state of the universe, people in it, etc, then there is no way that we can remove ourselves from that selfsame analysis. I felt this was being done. Ergo the “have your cake and eat it to” comment that I made.

I’m all for self observation. I think it is important for people to take a good look at themselves and make changes. It something that makes us better people. Being able to see the monsters and recognize the monster in ourselves, as a paraphrase of Schizo.

I did it in a very bitchy fashion, I freely admit it, but that is basically what I was on about. I hope this less bitchy explanation helps.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2006 at 09:22 PM
quote:
GM: *grins* you basically stated... in a nutshell... mono and I both have good points... which is what I was saying...


But what i meant was that mono has a better one.

 

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  posted on 11/9/2006 at 09:28 PM
" I was mostly on about the link and the reason for posting it. It seemed to me that it being the “way I feel at the moment” and only to be appreciated by people with “an attention span longer then a goldfish” were rather harsh criticism in a thread where the discussion had gone from one of silly people posting things online, to technology and it benefits/detractions, to you don’t listen to anything I say and I’m superior in every way."


Okay, let's break this down. "The way I feel at the moment." Why is there a problem with this? Aren't people allowed to feel certain ways anymore? I didn't know that having personal feelings about something was a reason for a person to be picked on. This is a point that I've tried to make many a time.
"only to be appreciated by people with “an attention span longer then a goldfish”"
First, that's not what he said. This is:
I'll link to it, in case anyone gives a shit and has a longer attention span than a retarded goldfish.

that means: I'll link to it, in case anyone gives a shit and has a longer attention span than a retarded goldfish.

In other words: I'm putting a link here, if you're interested and want to read it, here it is.

Or that's what I'm guessing. I didn't see personal criticism... but then, I rarely do. I give people the benefit of the doubt and tend to think that what they're saying is what they actually mean, not some weird personal thing that was meant as a jibe for only me. It's all about perspective, which quite a few people these days lack. Everyone seems to think that everyone else is out to get them and it's just not true.

Except for when it is.


 

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  posted on 11/9/2006 at 09:45 PM
Even a paranoid can have enemies. ~Kissinger.

There is no problem with having personal feelings. I jumped in, and probably shouldn't have, because it was becoming a bash fest. I thought that should stop. I thought the comments and the way they were being directed all around, by feral, by mono, by kgm, by etc etc etc.....were just getting ugly. I was attempting to point it out without getting ugly. Fuck it. I am ugly.

I'm pissed at the way people get treated for stating and opinion and supporting it. I'm tried of people calling each other stupid when no one is listening. Is that stupid of me, I'll grant it probably is. But it is how I feel. I'm being honest about it.

I wasn't going for direct quotes, I was paraphrasing my feelings, my sentiments into it. Making it mine, interpreting it as my own, and drawing my own conclusions to make my own point. I was reading into it, I'm entitled to that occasionally too.

I know, I know, mine, mine, mine, me, me, me. But at least I'm only angry with myself for posting in this damnedable catch-22 of a thread anyway. I retract my statements. I'm not going off in a huff or having hurt feelings. Consider this my way of saying I'll stay out of it, reprimanded fully. Anyone up for a new thread?


 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 08:34 AM
Yes, please, a new thread would probably be a good idea. I'm sorry but I seem to have misplaced my creativity so if someone would start it that'd be great.

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 03:29 PM
a new thread would be good, and hopefully we dont start stabing our own again as we seemed to have done in here.

 

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