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RedQueen
Member   Posts: 98 Registered: 18/10/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/11/2004 at 03:18 PM |
PF: where you'd get those stats? I wanna see...
Starlight: Sure there's something worse. A religious fanatic moron with
power. ____________________
Today's liberals are tomorrow's conservatives. When my generation is the
conservatives, we'll be fine letting gays get married and creationism vs.
evolution in schools will be a laughable issue.
But by god we'll be sticking it to the damn cyborgs!
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pale-face
Fanatic   Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/11/2004 at 07:48 PM |
| red queen, if you'd like a copy of it i can send it to you. give me your
e-mail or something like that. ____________________
fucking classy.
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/11/2004 at 08:52 PM |
| orrrr.... you could post a link here, so's we can all see it ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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pale-face
Fanatic Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 11/11/2004 at 01:12 PM |
| that'd be kinds hard. it was sent to me as a picture file. but i'm in the
process of finding it's origins. ____________________
fucking classy.
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pale-face
Fanatic Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 11/11/2004 at 01:15 PM |
and here we go
http://www.chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
it is all here. ____________________
fucking classy.
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daria_4
Member  Posts: 96 Registered: 29/7/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 11/11/2004 at 06:23 PM |
quote:
ah well, at least he cant
be reelected. maybe its satan boy dick cheneys turn next or something.
The problem therein being that now, because Bush doesn't have to worry
about getting himself reelected, he can make more unpopular decisions with
no fear of reprisal. It is a frightening time to be a) of age for the draft
or b) a woman. ____________________
"I've told you before, I don't comprehend religion, although
conviction is a concept I'm beginning to get. In any case, a person
with a real religious conviction is, I propose, a religious convict,
and deserves locking up."
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 11/11/2004 at 07:51 PM |
ok...
your source is wrong...
according to standardized testing and other things, a study published in
the University of Missouri Research Annual, the average IQ in Missouri is
83 ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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RedQueen
Member Posts: 98 Registered: 18/10/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/11/2004 at 08:18 AM |
| I wonder if South Carolina really is an 89. It fits. Well, actually a 63
would probably be more appropriate. How does Tennesse have a higher
composite IQ than SC? I refuse to believe it. I demand a retest or a
recount or something. ____________________
Today's liberals are tomorrow's conservatives. When my generation is the
conservatives, we'll be fine letting gays get married and creationism
vs.
evolution in schools will be a laughable issue.
But by god we'll be sticking it to the damn cyborgs!
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/11/2004 at 09:16 AM |
I just received some new food for thought:
http://www.presidentelect.org/art_preztoveep.html
While I had considered the fact that GWB might attempt to change the 22nd
amendment and attempt to get elected more than twice, I hadn't considered
that he might attempt to circumvent the amendment by finding loopholes. ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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pale-face
Fanatic Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/11/2004 at 04:22 PM |
| sorry bout that feral. i just saw it and thought it to be rather
interesting, thought you'd all like to see. didnt think to look up it's
legitimacy. ____________________
fucking classy.
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W0rmW00d
Fanatic  Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/11/2004 at 06:07 AM |
starlight, thas a pretty cool post. it just goes to show how careful one
has to be with the wording of official documents. unfortunately people
cannot be trusted to act on the spirit of the thing.
just ask any roleplayer who has played with someone who wants to 'win'
are there really that many states where the average IQ is lower than 100?
thats pretty shocking.
even if those stats are correct, though, it does not tell us what the IQs
of the people who turned out to vote are. it could be that only people with
100+ IQs voted in all states, and we will probably never know.
lies, damn lies and statistics ____________________
Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world.
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/11/2004 at 05:58 PM |
| PF: what are you apologizing about? your citation was good... their source
was flawed... no harm no foul... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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Wok
Occasional Poster   Posts: 25 Registered: 14/11/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 07:35 AM |
Bush, or should I say his administration, has pledged to give more money
than the entire world put together to help combat AIDS across the globe.
Particularly in the South Asia and African continents.
That is the only decent thing that has come from this administration. And
i'm not even sure if all the money will go to this cause...
Heres more.
http://www.avert.org/aidsmoney.htm
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 09:58 AM |
Bush, the president... has pledged... that is mighty amusing considering a)
he has not lived up to his own promises... and b) cannot directly decide
where money will go... that is up to our legislative bodies...
I've said it once, and I'll say it again... he should choke on a pretzel ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
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Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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pale-face
Fanatic Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 01:05 PM |
| your missing a key word in that sentence feral. 'he should choke and
die on a pretzel' ____________________
fucking classy.
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Monolycus
Fanatic  Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 02:23 PM |
It's fascinating to me to see how radically the majority opinion here on
Shmeng and throughout the virtual world has altered itself within the past
three or so years. All I can say about your well-intentioned righteous
indignation is this: Too little, too late. Where were you oh-so-informed
and oh-so-outraged activists when I needed you?
Talk, talk, talk.
~M. ____________________
"I believe that woman is planning to shoot me again."
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fireflyer
Coward   Posts: 1 Registered: 1/11/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 03:30 PM |
personally, i think all this continued political debate is stupid. bush
won. so your not happy, but like it or not, your an american. we have to
work with this, like it or not, and do what is good for the country. and if
its any consolation, he wont run again in 4 years, so yeah. my two cents...
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 04:09 PM |
1) bush won...
2)we have to do what is good fro the country
3) shut up and accept it
That is the essense of your post...
good for the country is not bush... therefore... we cannot just shut up and
accept it... I am an american, but ... BUT... BUT... this fucking country
was built on the concept of fixing what is wrong with it...
Now... if you want us to shut up on this political debate... go fuck
yuorself... it's not going to happen... as long as the country is stupid
enough to support an assbag like bush... there will be strident voices
screaming out in opposition... as long as the 48% who voted for kerry have
no say (electoral college) we will scream in agony... as long as people
say, just buckle down and accept it... we will discuss... if you don't like
it, don't read this thread, or just go somewhere else... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
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Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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Monolycus
Fanatic Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 04:26 PM |
fireflyer: For once, the flat, unmodulated medium of the internet will
work to my advantage as it will help me to minimise the "you're-an-idiot"
tone that creeps into my voice when I am explaining things that should have
been obvious to someone had they spent a nanosecond actually considering
them instead of reflexively regurgitating what I am certain they thought
was profound from the comfort of their flatline. Let's take this
point-by-point, shall we?
" personally, i think all of this continued political debate is stupid.
"
You are entitled to that opinion, of course, as I am entitled to think that
the practice of not capitalising personal pronouns immediately marks
someone as a semiliterate. Be that as it may, there is one form of speech
that is explicitly protected by the US Constitution, and that is political
speech. If you find it a waste of time to engage in the process, it is not
only counterproductive, but also un-American for you to try to dissuade
others from doing so.
" bush won. '
If it were as simple as that, people would still need to discuss it. It is
not as simple as that, however. I would suggest you look at http://www.bopnews.com/archives/002328.html#2328 to
view a list of links of studies and articles that demonstrate that voters
were, in fact, defrauded (again). A nice overview can be found at http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110804A.shtml
" so your(sic) not happy, but like it or not, your(sic)
an american "
It has been pointed out many times that many people who visit this site are
not, in fact, Americans... and their contributions as third party observers
are often very insightful. Step outside your own head, please.
" we have to work with this, like it or not, and do what is good for
the country."
Once again, you seem to be stuck in an a priori little paradigm.
Nobody actually has to do anything, like it or not, and how did you propose
that we establish what is "good for the country" (much less do anything
about it) if political discussions are such a waste of time as you are
suggesting?
Actually, if we are going to do something about it, I would
recommend beginning by signing a petition to investigate possible election
fraud, such as the one found at http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/ ...however,
since we are moving in the direction of paperless elections which seem to
be designed to cover up abuse and fraud, an investigation might be
fruitless. Still, if the left weren't so bent on bitching at the expense
of actual reform, they could write to their Representative at http://www.working
forchange.com/activism/action.cfm?ItemId=18055
" and if its any consolation, he wont (sic) run again in 4
years, so yeah"
You seem to be making the same mistake that many people are making when
criticising the direction this country is heading when you assume an
administration is a single man. You also assume that legislation
disappears when a person leaves office and four years isn't time to do
irreperable harm in policy (both domestic and foreign), appointments, and
legislative precedent. You also assume that criteria for Presidential
appointment is written in stone and that at the end of four years he (and
others of his ilk, including foreign-born "guvinators") still won't be
eligible for reappointment. Since his party controls three branches of the
government, I don't share your optimism there.
" my two cents..."
In an unstable economy such as the one the USA currently enjoys, I
respectfully decline your two cents as being not worth my time.
~M.
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"I believe that woman is planning to shoot me again."
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/11/2004 at 05:27 PM |
Can I just say... I have the phrase "my two cents" fuck your two cents...
we know it's your opinion... no need to just fucking restate "it's just my
opinion"...
Office of redundancy office
Feral ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
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Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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