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Author: Subject: Gay Marrige

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  posted on 20/7/2004 at 05:52 PM
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It shouldn't even BE a debate. A denial of rights, an injustice to one is an injustice to all.


Did you know that there are 1,049 benefits that are denied to homosexual couples becaues they cannot marry?

 

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  posted on 20/7/2004 at 07:00 PM
Uh, yes, yes I do, but to list them all would take forever so I merely mentioned the few that are most prevalent in the argument. Why i said it shouldn't even be a debate is because the mere idea of telling two people of "legal" age and reasonable mind that they cannot legally bind themselves in which way seems fit is SO absurd I don't know why it's even an issue.

 

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  posted on 20/7/2004 at 07:02 PM
Let's take a good look at what the constitution actually says are rights...
after actually reading it... the only thing constitutionally that I can find about anything even remote is freedom of religion...

If one has a certain sexuality they KNOW for a fact that they are right...

Religion: A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.


but NO ONE has the constitutional RIGHT to ever be married...

 

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  posted on 20/7/2004 at 08:13 PM
I know, bettie--I was agreeing with you.

 

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  posted on 20/7/2004 at 10:14 PM
Feral: Then take it away from everyone. I'm not talking constitution, I'm talking rights to ways of life that well, go without saying. If there are benifits to being "legally" married, and marriage is allowed, then allow everyone or allow nobody. You could interpret "all men created equal" and "persuit of happiness" as rights, and not allowing a certain group of people to be married is NOT consitutionally following "all created equal" and not allowing a group of people to be married is NOT constitutionally follwing "persuit of happiness". I'm speaking not constituional rights, but general "goes without saying" rights that everyone else has. HOWEVER, if they plan to go forward with the bill that makes gay marriage illegal, then it COULD become a constitutional fight to make marriage to ANY gender a right, and then it would be constitutional. However, I think that even HAVING to have that in the constitution is retarded. I know I keep circling back to how RETARDED the whole issue is, but well, IT IS.

 

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  posted on 20/7/2004 at 10:24 PM
bettie I agree... though...*grrins* pursuit is all that is allowed for... BEING happy is unconstitutional...

I don't think that this issue should be a mandate f the masses, but instead a personal choice...

 

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  posted on 20/7/2004 at 11:25 PM
Oh god that is totally the bullshit the dried up old bastards in congress would say when you got them in a corner, goddamned you for pointing that out.

Personal choice is where it IS at. If you don't wanna have sex with a guy, don't have sex with a guy. If you don't want to marry a woman, don't marry a woman. They say it will dissolve the foundation of the american family. Fuck their american family, I say.
I was watching the daily show today and a senator was going on about how if homosexuals were allowed to marry, it would lead to children being born out of wedlock (?!WTF?!) to which john stewart replied..."Is sodomy THAT POWERFUL?! That the combination of penis and ass creates some wonder twin connection activation that results in reversing the laws of nature and....and..." ?!
These people are grasping at straws to try to make their point, and you know what? They can fuck THEMSELVES, and I'll laugh when they make assholes of themselves on television, and I'll laugh when gay marriage eventually goes through as 100% LEGAL.

And I swear to god today i was boxed in by fucking conservatives in minivans at a stop light. The van to the right had a bumper sticker that said "abortion: n: govt sanctioned murder" and the one in FRONT had a sticker that said "marriage = girl sign+boy sign". I was in a bad mood, so I honked my horn, flipped them both off, and then went to a different grocery store. I AM SICK OF THOSE FUCKING BUMPER STICKERS.

 

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