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Author: Subject: In case you want to be pissed off...

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  posted on 24/4/2003 at 06:58 PM
Libertarians and Greeners, the other two parties in a two party system.
Lets not forget the socialist party or the communist party both alive and fighting. There is also the femminst party. There is also a political party for the bible chewers that dont think the present regime is godly enough, but i forget thier name.

THEN there are al the PAC (political action commitees) that lobby seperate politicians on individual issues, like affordable houseing options and healthcare and beef substities.

Then there are the political parties for all the differnet political groups in countries we occupy.

yah i would say that there are more than two parties here, but most schools dont want you to know that.

 

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  posted on 24/4/2003 at 08:30 PM
Maybe there's a bit of paranoia going on in my mentality, but does anyone notice how our rights are slowly but surely getting taken away? Not to say there's not worse, but we're slowly seeping away from democracy and sinking into socialism. Again, maybe my paranoia is eating at me right now. It's also echoing that theocracy is having a strike on politics again for some reason. Oh well...maybe I need to relax and get some air...get something to shield myself from my paranoid side.
 

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  posted on 24/4/2003 at 08:53 PM
Right, squid, but for the most part democracy and liberalism are very close bedmates, definable only by those who truly understand it. Liberals have a better chance of getting what they want through the democratic party, and if the democratic party wants backing of any sort (funds, votes, positive publicity) then they generally appease the Liberals. Goddamn why does everything have to be so fucking confusing now?!
THIS is why I have no political affiliation whatsoever, because I just can't agree with ANYTHING ANY SIDE HAS TO SAY. Liberals want their cake and to eat it too, Democrats want to take it away because we might choke, Conservatives want to make sure that God has no problem with us eating the afore said cake, and Republicans want to make you pay $5 bucks per square inch/per bite.

I wonder if there is a govt. grant to help you form your own nation and suceed (spelled?) from the main body of govt.

 

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  posted on 24/4/2003 at 09:02 PM
Anya: No we're not sinking into socialism, socialism would be a step up from what we have now, we are sinking in FASCISM girl. Currently, and every since the country was declared a country they have been claiming it was a republic. We have never been a democracy, the electoral college is a bright and shining example of that fact, senators, representatives and, oh yeah, and our pledge of allegiance are all more points. How can we be a democracy (look it up on dictionary.com if you're curious) if we are not self representing.

 

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  posted on 25/4/2003 at 07:33 AM
<--That was shade using my computer because i took his keyboard. "and to the republic for which it stands" giggle snarf.

 

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  posted on 25/4/2003 at 06:42 PM
Anya: (Correct me if I’m wrong) After the Department of Homeland Security was setup, some of our freedoms were taken away. Small things, internet privacy being reduced and such (I forgot what that one act was called but last I read it was being pushed by Bush). -M posted this link before: http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

Bettie: I agree absolutely.

 

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  posted on 26/4/2003 at 09:01 AM
Yes the country is realy sinking into something. Freedoms are being striped down to the bare core. The two parties are saying the same damn things. Man... when will the BS end?

Baahh!! I knew I had something else to say. Kinda off topic, but in resent year the number of male births have droped considerably around the world. So their actually might need to be a True SaveTheMales.

 

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  posted on 27/4/2003 at 05:38 AM
I'm sorry Bettie but wonce again I think yoo are in error.

Democrats resemble nothing Liberal in any way shape or form. A Democrat is a Republican with a guilt complex! To say even that Democrats tend to be more Liberal than Republicans is like saying Napolean tended to be more Liberal than Hitler!

Whenever anyone brings up the "Two-Party System" we have I always think of the episode of The Simpsons where the aliens run for president. Sure one was a Democrat and the other was a Republican but they were both slimey tenticled monsters! (vote Squid in 2004!)

Democrats don't appeal to Liberals. The late Paul Wellstone was considered one of the most "Liberal" Democrats out there was a career Politician even despite the fact that he said he would stop running after his last term, and shit-faced liar who's policies stood nowhere near anything Liberal. Example? The first thing he stated on his platform in 2002 was tha he wanted "lower prescription costs for Seniors."

#1, kissing Senior Citizen ass is of course a terriffic way to get elected. and #2, FUCK LOWER PRESCRIPTION COSTS! a LIBERAL would want FREE HEALTH CARE! And not just for Seniors, for EVERYBODY! What this means is, that the more "Liberal" Democrats out there do not want to actually change anything, just get re-elected and bitch and complain!

And if yoo want to bring up the concept that changes must occur slowly to maintain order, I'm sorry but that is total BS! It's like saying "Yoo know, something needs to be done about those Nazis but their reign will only last a thousand years, let's wait till they're done."

 

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  posted on 27/4/2003 at 06:43 AM
Alone: I think you are referring to the USA PATRIOT Act. It was passed very quickly and quietly and did not raise too many eyebrows because, as monstrous as it is, it is ostensibly designed to "fight terrorism" (by increasing the conditions that give rise to the disenfranchised... yeah, that'll work) and was targeted primarily at immigrants. This is no longer the case with the drafted USA PATRIOT Act II which targets American citizens explicitly. Coming soon to a secret police department near you.

For some backlash about the first travesty of public law, check out <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Business/righttoread030424.html"> ;THIS</a>
and DO READ the "related stories" sections (they are short blurbs and provide a great deal of insight)!


 

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  posted on 27/4/2003 at 06:45 AM
Screw hyperlinks. I'll never get that techno crap to work. Just copy and paste the following URL:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Business/righttoread03042 4.html

~M.










 

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  posted on 29/4/2003 at 04:01 PM
More on the second Pat Act... or, what they were doing when you were looking elsewhere.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/HallsOfJustice/hallsofjus tice156.html

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/civil_li berties020622.html

and one with a Seattle flavour!

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/police_spying03 0102.html



 

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  posted on 30/4/2003 at 05:57 AM
...God bless America...

...cause Bush ain't doing squat for us.

 
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