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Author: Subject: The truth and the Politically Correct

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  posted on 1/1/2003 at 11:20 PM
Why the hell doesn't anyone want to tell the truth anymore. Everywhere I look, the media, the goverment, even our employers are sugar coating shit and ramming it down our throat. When you look realistically at whats going on in the world, you see that there are lies and hypocracy in everything. News shows with political agendas, fabricated government stories to cover up congress yanking away our rights one by one. I sure as fuck am pissed at the MPAA, and any other housewife fucking politically correct cencorship agency, designed solely to make the middle class suburban retards stop whinning. WHO THE FUCK are we if such an obvious destruction of the first amendmant like movie cencorship just sits there and doesn't get brought down by the aware public. I refuse to be a libertine anymore! I am fucking mad at all the grass fucking brain dead shit faces in Hollywood, making there pretty movies, devoid of HUMAN FUCKIN' EMOTION! I am disgruntled that mass media respectfully declines telling us anything new or controversial, just so the ratings stay equal in every race religion and creed. Well you wanna know something? The bible was written by a Roman family, and was designed to scare the shit out of people, telling them that they are born immoral. I'd also like to ask why, If jesus died for our sins, Those Catholic Cock suckers need to go to confessional! He made the ultimate sacrifice, you aren't supposed to confess your sins! You wanna know something else? The black problem in America is fucked up! You have a bunch of people whinning that "OH, those poor blacks in the Ghetto, life is so hard, they don't have any oppurtunity" Fuck You! What about the negro colledge fund? What about affirmative action? What about financial aid? Fuck me, they could even beat the shit out of a white guy and steal his money for tuition, because the law says black people are incapable of having the emotion of hate, because they can only be the victim of a hate crime! What the fuck is that America? What other emotions can't blacks have? Why the fuck can I only have hate? The real issue is that they don't take the friggin oppurtunity, they collect social security and wellfare and smoke crack! And I'm sick of liberal cock suckers whinning about them. I'm mad because in a free country, the code enforcment tells me which fucking COLOR TO PAINT MY HOUSE!!!!! What kind of awnings I can put on my house, what color coordination to use. FUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU!!!! I have been fined 15 times now by those code enforcing cock smokers, and spit on there cars twice. I'm mad because its a free country, and if i decide to burn the flag of the country in protest of its racist, hypocritical, cock smoking, ways, I'll get a billy club to the head. So fuck em all! and make those godamned Indians pay some fucking tax! Chief Rolling Dice is making 2.5 billion a year, recoup a little!
 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 12:04 AM
Man, I haven't ranted like that since I started breathing therapy.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 12:27 AM
*DOOT DOOT DOOT* ANGRY WHITE GUY ALLERT, ANGRY WHITE GUY ALERT *DOOT DOOT DOOT*

LOL no SHIT man!
That's a HELL of a first post....to hell wit gettin you froot in th door, fucking kick it down! LOL

Comedian I have to say, this rivals some of your best hissyfits. This guy could school you, son, FO SHO.

I'm gonna go drink some more and read this again later. HUZZAH!

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 04:48 AM
I agree! The MPAA for one thing butchers movies for the sake of saving the American soul from corruption...by trimming a few frames or whole scenes from a movie, they believe they are “saving our moral fibers...”...or what’s left of them.

FUCK THE MPAA! Give the damn movie a R rating and get over with it! This is why I never buy a movie on dvd if I am absolutely sure it’s not presented in a unrated format. Honestly, get Lord of Illusions uncut on dvd and listen to the directors commentary, Clive Barker gives some damn good thoughts on the MPAA problem.

- See, the problem with society is that we want to believe that we shun death, violence, negativity, but in actuality we obsess over it. Unfortunately that gives these fucking moronic moral crusaders all the excuse they need to start a inquisition.

There’s a whole machine to this too.

Therapist just declare who needs fixing and who doesn’t, if a person doesn’t go with the flow.
Politicians and moral crusaders (religious zealots and monarchs) work hand in hand to tell us how we should think, act, believe.
Mainstream media runs wild with any subject that is marketable, Columbine, 9/11, Waco, DC Sniper hysteria. THEY WILL NOT STOP UNLESS YOU FORCE THEM TO!

Now you add one.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 01:18 PM
I'm not quite sure.
For one, I've lost my will to fight. They're just too damn powerful. I'll just live my own quiet world and speak up only when they do something -really- bad. (Like opting out of the Kyoto Protocol, as if there was an option). This world needs a lot of change, and there just isn't enough good-minded people to turn it around.

Squire: Catholics believe that Jesus died for our -Original- sin. Adam and Eve, you know? So the everyday sins they commit they go to confession for. And so because of this, Catholics believe they aren't born immoral. Just my 12 years of Catholic school (-ugh-) talking.

As for the media not bringing up anything controversial: They do that so that they don't get angry people calling/suing them. Yes, they lack balls by doing this, but who's gonna stick their neck out in this self-centered world?

I do believe many movies convey human emotion quite well. For example LotR displays anger, greed, sorrow, pride, honor, love, and happiness throughout the movie, during the correct parts. I could name a dozen or so 'emotional' movies. Maybe you were commenting on their acting, instead?

Pertaining to the 'black problem' (eerily similar in name to the "Jewish Solution" in Nazi Germany) I agree partly. Yes, there are people that take advantage of the system. Many generations sit on welfare, white and black. And if you give me statistics showing that there are more blacks abusing welfare, then I'll direct you to the newspaper headlines detailing white men abusing stockholders. Blaming an entire race isn't going to do anything except make it worse.
Like my mother always said... A social reform works like a pendulum. One side gets more as the pendulum swings, and then it swings back. Eventually it'll stop in the middle but you have to wait for it.
And it is perfectly legal to file a hate crime against a black person. Most people that can, don't, because they know that nobody will believe them, due to the social atmosphere.

If you want to paint your house a different color and put on different awnings, then move. From what I guess you're in some sort of housing community or some such that has a board of directors. Either petition them to let your house out of the community or move. You moved in knowing the contract, you should follow it.
If its a city problem, then petition the city. Who the hell knows what sort of things you could get away with, provided the right petition.

And the 'goddam indians' shouldn't have to pay tax. You want to know why? Because we killed off most of their people, shoved a government up their asses, and shoved them off to non-productive land for our benefit. I'm surprised you didn't complain about that.
As for Mr. Chief Rolling Dice, I'm sure Bill Gates and friends are making well over what any Native American is making. And yet they pay very little taxes compared to their earnings. They're rolling in the dough while the luxury gap grows larger and larger.
Why weren't you complaining about that?


Or were you too busy being unhappy that you can't paint your 600 grand home pink?

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 01:50 PM
Welcome, Squire.

You raise some interesting issues, although if this were anywhere else your tone would deafen your audience. You have asked why the media sugar-coats the truth, and that is the answer. People are, by and large, incapable of separating tone from content. Try saying nice things in a loud and angry tone of voice to a small child and you will see what I am referring to. The majority are mindless sheep following the herd and it is difficult to place a lot of blame on the unscrupulous when the masses are so eager to be fleeced.

To address your rant point-by-point:

The MPAA are not a legislative body. They are an anonymous committee who are not elected to their offices nor are they accountable to the public for their decisions. From a legal perspective, then, anything that they say can at best be considered recommendations. Movie theatres and entertainment distributors are not an executive body. Even if the MPAA's decisions were legally binding, ushers and ticket takers have no authority to enforce those decisions. Why is there a problem then? For the same reason that income taxes are paid. People who can not be bothered to examine a situation or stand up for their rights voluntarily concede to doing what they are told until the majority believes that these practices are law. In time, an astute political figure will notice the loophole and close it up before one of the herd catches on and objects.

The media do not tell us anything new or controversial for two reasons. The most important one is money. News agencies are first and foremost businesses. They are under no obligation to tell anyone anything that might hurt them financially. Secondly, Reuters and several other media agencies are branches of the federal government (Actually, while Reuters was founded by the C.I.A. to disseminate propaganda under the guise of "news", they were privately sold in the 1970's. Despite this, not a single employee of Reuters lost their job or did anything differently after the sale. Get on a search engine and punch in OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD for more details.) Therefore, if you are looking for anything more than entertainment or propaganda from a news agency, your expectations are too high.

I have no sympathy about the code enforcement authorities. The term "free country" is largely meaningless and only invoked when rational arguments are not available. I believe that communities have the right to maintain standards that the majority of their constituency is comfortable with. The idea here is that if you are not comfortable with the standards of one community, you may shop around until you find one that you do like. If one community's standards are very unreasonable, they will lose out economically when more and more people leave it. This check-and-balance is disrupted when a central government steps in and enforces too many "standards" on a federal level. When that happens, one shithole community becomes as good (or bad) as the next and there is no incentive for an individual community to restrain themselves from being the best assholes they can be.

The formal and official recognition of races is offensive in a judicial setting. "Hate laws" are just as prejudicial as "hate crimes". It staggers me that more "minorities" (a social term, not a scientific one) are not offended by this. For instance, when taking the civil service exam, "minorities" are granted a few free throw-away points. The message here is: We know that you guys could never compete with white people on a level playing field, so we'll toss you a bone. Rather than being outraged, however, they take the extra points for the most part and feel like they have gotten away with something. If white people were offered free things simply for their "race", I am confident that they would do the same thing. It is the herd mentality again. It is the experiment that I outlined above in reverse... saying something terrible and offensive in a calm and soothing tone of voice. Take "Ebonics" for example... it is one of the most racist and terrible things that could be inflicted upon blacks. The actual motivation for promoting it as legitimate in any way is to keep future generations of black people out of professional workplaces... but what is spoken is that it is being tolerant of an imaginary culture and people love that saccharine tone of voice.

Your assessment of Christian docrine (viz. Jesus dying for people's sins) indicates that you are not actually familiar with Christian doctrine. The formal Confession (as it is exercised by Catholics) is a very sound psychological practice. The Crucifixion, further, does not absolve anyone from anything that they might want to do. Christianity in general (and Catholicism specifically) is no less legitimate than any other spiritual practice. You complain in one breath about people denying you the right to paint your house any colour you want, and in the next breath would dictate other people's belief systems. There is no Universally correct morality, but there are many incorrect ones... and one that is not internally consistent is necessarily incorrect.

I believe that those were the salient points. If you want to respond that I am a "whinning (sic) liberal cock smoker", now would be the time to do so. I am, I was, I will be

~Monolycus.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 05:41 PM
Heh, When i read this, i was picturing Sam Kinison (forgot how to spell his name) reading it. lol... If you all know who he is, then i think you will agree. hee hee

oh.. and Fuck the MPAA.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 07:16 PM
Mono, that was quite to the point and well friggin said!

Morte: "Heeeeeeey LADY!!!!"

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 09:44 PM
I am calm, I am serene. All that is is a ever-flowing stream.


Sleep.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2003 at 11:56 PM
You should make a haiku about that man.
here's mine.

I am drunk as hell.
All I ever do is drink.
The toilet becons.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 04:08 AM
thank you for the comments, and touche on the critiques. I will say that I am amazed at Monolycus' post. I don't think I've ever read something so well written on this forrum before. I made many mistakes in my post, and I'm happy to see someone was paying attention. And I am so totally not an "angry white guy", I prefer bliss-challendged caucasion. Next time I write one of these babies, I'm doing some research, cause' I crapped it out at 4 in the morning. I do not feel the need to defend what I wrote, however, I don't have a problem with black people. What I was really trying to say was that I was mad that people continaully whine that blacks have it so terrible, but the fact of the matter is that a majority do not take the advantage of the opportunites that our sytem offers. I agree completely with Monolycus,

"For instance, when taking the civil service exam, "minorities" are granted a few free throw-away points. The message here is: We know that you guys could never compete with white people on a level playing field, so we'll toss you a bone. Rather than being outraged, however, they take the extra points for the most part and feel like they have gotten away with something. If white people were offered free things simply for their "race", I am confident that they would do the same thing. It is the herd mentality again"

Has our society peaked? Is this the beggining of the downward spiral of man? In his first book Nietzsche spoke of the great "witch's brew" being the discovery that this is the begining of the end. What the hell did he mean? Please discuss.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 04:43 AM
I think it's the middle of the end or that we are in or beyond the actual end itself. I look around and start thinking to myself that maybe that doomsday asteroid did actually hit us, and this is the aftermath only we don't know it yet. Then I sort of go..well that's kinda cool then...and then I realize I almost don't even care at that point.

Back to the earlier subject, or at least a bit back to that and then a take-off of it maybe. What I mean is that I don't understand why in awards type ceremonies and such, that there is the general show, then the black show, then the latino show, but where is the European descent show. If there is to be the minority scholarship, then why not the majority as well. If there are to be distinctions made between certain racial/ethnic groups in the ways of benefits or exclusions or exceptions, then I want my little ethnic group-type covered as well.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 05:07 AM
All I'm asking for is equal rights. Why should some races get exceptions, while others don't. Martin Luther King jr. fought for equality, not to get something extra in return to make up for slavery and segregation. Either dump hate crimes, affirmative action, etc. or, well thats all you can do. And whats with womens rights. Did you know women have to carry one hundred pounds less that a man up a ladder during fire fighter training. What are they saying, chicks are weak?
 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 05:12 AM
Squire ...that was actually the exact point I was trying to make. I do not believe in the whole exceptions bullcrap...it makes me sick as hell when I see it. I want the exceptions to stop. It's why I'm saying I don't understand the whole exceptions thing, cuz it's a load of crap. I want the racial quotas and exceptions to just stop. Simple as that.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 05:15 AM
And BTW my father was a fireman for 31 years and I got to be there when the first firewoman was in training in the city that I grew up in. She was not given the exceptions that are sometimes made other places. She was expected to carry the same weight as a man or get back behind a desk and be a dispatcher. I have no problem with a woman doing a "man's " job or a man doing a "woman's" job. I only have a problem when a man tells a woman that her job is not as important as a man's job and vice versa. I believe that if you can physically do the same job with all the same physical requirements well then cool, otherwise do something else you can physically do without all the special exceptions. Yes I believe this applies to military too. Daddy and brother were Navy men.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 05:39 AM
I find listening to Monolycus is liking taking wisdom from it's truest source. That boy is briliant, hands down.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 05:55 AM
I pray to whatever powers that be, that when I find my mature literary style, I can write I will write like that.
 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 08:39 AM
OH man I KNOW about that firefighting thing too, and man if I'm in a goddamned burning building and some chick comes up to save me, I don't wanna have to wonder if I'm heavier than the reduced weight requirement she was given as a test.
Hell yeah there are girls that would make excellent firefighters, but if they're gonna do a job where carrying a certain weight amount is CRUCIAL to life or death, then making special allocations for them is LUDICROUS.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 09:18 AM
Oh yesth. And it's justht sthoooo great to be resthcued by a little girl. What happened to all those big, burly masthculine fireman of yesthteryear? They can put out the fire in my basthement any day.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2003 at 09:20 AM
Oh yeah, the 'girls are weaker than boys' thing showed up in my elementary school PE classes. You know the physical fitness exams? The stand ards are so much lower for girls! Check out the mile times for National! I could walk a mile that fast! In my class, 3/4 of the girls would get the presidential award, and only 2 to 3 boys. Its ridiculous!

Oh and by the way, yesterday, I could have sworn this topic was a flame. Today, its much better. Its not often that a person can do that. Congrats, Squire.

Note: I have no idea why 'standards' above won't stick together.

 

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