I want to work a in a place where everyone speaks my language. Seriously,
if I come to work tommorrow and have to explain something to someone I
might have to kill. It's just frustrating. No one knows what I'm saying
most of the time. I suppose this is because I work in a country where the
native language is not english, but still.
dammit.
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Sardonic-Pain
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posted on 11/12/2002 at 08:42 AM
I know how that is kind of but not really.....I am pretty fluent in German
and I have to help out the exchange students...which can be a pain
sometimes.....Cause out cultures differ so much...Its kinda of funny though
cuase I gave Mina her First pop tart and the first thing she said was this
is so american.....Sometimes It gets hard and confusing becuase their are 5
exchange students that speak german but between them their are 3 different
dialects....and their english isnt the best...So when i cuss use slang or
talk in ebonics i have to explain everything to them it can be a pain
sometimes but language mixups can bee sch a pain in the arse! so yea!
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KatB
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posted on 11/12/2002 at 09:07 AM
...And speaking of lingually challenged (???) - what the heck is
EBONICS?
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Ebonics: a "cultural" excuse to speak like you've got a mouthful of old
sock.
When I mean cultural, I don't mean racial (heading off any nastiness here)
it's "street slang". Slang is out of control as it is, but there is
actually a MOVEMENT to have EBONICS TAUGHT IN SCHOOL AS A VALID
LANGUAGE!
I have jerkoffs come in to my work all the time flinging that verbal game
of unintelligible scrabble at me...and I know what they're saying and
all...but I pretend like I don't just to watch them flounder, then later
come back and speak to me in regular, understandable english.
I mean jesus hell, if english is your FIRST and ONLY language, shouldn't
you at LEAST get that down right before you proceed to fuck it up?
Plus, they ASK FOR JOBS like that! I had a kid walk up to me and be all
like "Hey yo, man, you guyzz gaht inny muthafukin applacashuns?"
"I'm sorry sir, our motherfucking position is filled."
You think it's hard to understand THEIR three dialects!
Man, english is one of the hardest languages to learn to BEGIN with, THEN
they get the joys of trying to comprehend ebonics, slang, and general lazy
speaking!
I have a friend who speaks FOUR languages..he's native slovakian, was an
exchange student (who married one of my friends and has lived in the US for
years ! Hooray!) and he spoke them all perfectly, because he said to me
"If I can't speak it correctly, I don't want to speak it at all." He also
stressed how irritating "slang" and "ebonics" were...not only was it hard
to grasp the meanings, but that it was "lazy".
I can't stand it. fo' sheezy beeyatch.
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Anonymous
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posted on 11/12/2002 at 04:52 PM
Dont get me started, ill have racism thrown in my face so fast. But really
its not. its just a theory that makes alot of sense. If you wanna know
what i mean message me and ill tell you.
blah...fuckin morons!!
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posted on 11/12/2002 at 04:56 PM
fuck..that was me....
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posted on 11/12/2002 at 05:46 PM
Holy crap...
*Shrugs head & extend sympathy*
(Just remembered various times I was actually called racist bitch etc while
actally spending most of my hours campaigning against aparthed. By all
means don't question anything or anyone with a big fluorescent sticker
shouting Politically Correct... Morons!!!)
Oh yeah, and thanks for clearing that point!
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posted on 11/12/2002 at 08:04 PM
It gets really sad when you see a job application with ebonics listed as a
foriegn language said applicant can speak.
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posted on 11/12/2002 at 08:44 PM
heh, occasionally it can be fun, but when the entire freaking country
doesn't speak english....listen to me bitch...sometimes it's kinda funny
though, especially when I go to the corner store to pic up a girly mag and
the young girl behind the country looks at me and asks something in korean
and all I can do is smile and hand her my money, ah well.....
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Well darlin, if you're in korea (?) then of course they speak Korean. Not
their job to speak anything else. They can if they WANT....but well, it's
their native language.
If I went to another country, I'd at least try to learn the basics.
Are you SERIOUS that "ebonics" was on a list of languages?!
*fallsoverdead*
You've got to be kidding me. I'm the furthest thing from racist. I
understand, and more than just "ethnic" groups speak "ebonics", so it's not
a race card. It's just plain out sloppy english. I feel it's lazy. I
mean jeebus you ONLY speak ONE language? Don't you at least OWE it to
yourself to speak it correctly?! The frightening thing is that I
UNDERSTAND it now!
I think it stems from working with a few developmentally disabled kids in
highschooll that could barely speak, working for years in a tourist mall
where I've heard and dealt with every accent and variation of broken
english on the globe.
America is a blend of all sorts of people. I can handle broken english
just fine....they have an accent because they speak TWO languages, I don't.
They are trying, so it's the least I can do to help them and myself
understand what they're saying.
Ebonics tho? No. No way. We speak ebonics all the time at work for
fun....we fling around fo'sheezy like dat foo. but it's scary when someone
standing near answers back in all seriousness "yeah, foo, FO SHEEZY"
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posted on 12/12/2002 at 08:58 PM
oh, i've been learning korean, and i get by just fine, i think most of my
ennui was based around the cold that made me loose my voice so i really
couldn't communicate to anyone, but it was doubly difficult to comunicate
to all the koreans.....alas....
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posted on 13/12/2002 at 01:24 AM
Man, when I was in Norway everybody spoke English, most of them
better than most Americans. Wierd, huh?
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KatB
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posted on 13/12/2002 at 02:02 AM
Not really, considering how goddamn smart we are
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Everybody speaks good english in Europe -
except the French, but then again i wouldn't know, cause the bleedy
fuckers wanted to talk only in their own language
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posted on 13/12/2002 at 11:48 AM
Hee Hee, yes indeedy, the french do indeed suck.
I think that if ebonics can be taught in schools, the damnit so should
l33t.
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posted on 13/12/2002 at 04:21 PM
My question is: If everyone thinks the french are ugly, not bathing nor
shaving and all that... Why does the world listen to them on matters of
fashion?
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posted on 15/12/2002 at 07:53 AM
the french dont speak great English because they dont have to, since
everyone in Eurpope speaks french as well as English.
Fashion comes from there because that is where Western Fashion has come
from for almost 600 years.
Ebonics, or AAVE has been spoken in this country LONGER than the version of
English that is taught here. Its not lazy English rather is is more like
American English, a polygot creole dialect of real English.
Hm, they said "fo sheezy" a couple hundred years ago? Bitchin!
I think the TERM for it is the same, but the current "ebonics" I am
speaking of is the intentionally slurry, jumbled, and erradic from of
"street speak"...unfortunately in my certain global pinpoint, also laden to
the brims with the word "nigga" and dragging out english words...lots of
"s's" and "sheeeits" to taste, boil, and release through the mouth.
I actually asked someone what the hell it was that they were speaking to
me..their answer?
"Iss fukken EEBONIKS fo sho, mayn, canna nigga fukin speek his sheeyat and
gets himself UNDADSTOOD?" Spoke the 16 year old caucasion male youth who
tried and failed to bum a cigarette off of me on my break.
Or the little girl who comes in and "asks" "HEY, doo yoo all here in dis
place peerce toungses and noses and sheeits?"
I probably wouldn't actually HATE it if the friggin "N" bomb wasn't dropped
so many times in a conversation. I hate...HATE THAT WORD. I don't care
WHAT color the person saying it is...I HATE IT. Especially when watching a
father watching his child play, then the kid runs in an oppostie direction,
and he expounds "Whayah my liddle nigga runnin off too?"
I think therein lies my hatred of it.
What's the deal with the french? I haven't met any dirty french people,
and yeah SOME of the chicks don't shave, but have you EVER been to the
pacific northwest?!
The NERVE of wanting to speak only your language in YOUR country! I mean
HELL....stupid snobby french *sarcasm, kids, sarcasm*
The "fashionable french" is also bizarre to me, not because I think of them
as not capable, but just the MULTITUDE of designers that come out of that
country...must be something in the water...they must share it with the
italians, because they're a close second if not a tie for first place.
I've said it before and I'll say it again....if you're in a non english
speaking country for whatever reason, it'd serve you well to learn it
enough to get along. If they don't speak your language, it's not their
problem. Broken english and accents are for people who speak more than one
language, english not being their first. Cut them some slack, they're
visitors, or recently become citizens and at least THEY are trying.
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posted on 16/12/2002 at 01:43 PM
fer shezzy my nezzy anywho.....Yea i have seen where you can take Ebonics
as a major in college its weird...Around here you have to know ebonics just
to understand the person next to you and I'm in the dirty ole Souf so yea i
dont understand it.....I even found a bible writtn in Ebonics...in da
beggining der was some Jank....thats how it started no lie......
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