Okay okay, so I´m here to babble about some of my experiences (the majority
of which are 2nd-hand) dealing with people who actually worship
Lovecraftian dieties.
I recently went to Burning-Man where a tent called "Cthulhu Camp" was
set-up on the Esplanade. It was a teepee with 2 huge squid eyes (easiliy
attracting my attention) with a costume of Cthulhu standing beside it. I
met the people at the tent and was quite suprised. I was handed a sheet of
paper that was a parody of those evangelical Xian propaganda mini-comics
except that it was evangelizing Cthulhu.
The most vocal of the Cthulhu Campers proceeded to tell us a long story
about how he "found Cthulhu" and the wierd part was he was kinda joking but
then kinda not. He then invited us to a ritual after the burn in which we
would be participating in the laying of tenticles, graven images, and
speaking in beaks. I unfortunatly missed the ritual but don´t worry, I had
a very good excuse.
This was far from my first encounter with this sort of group but it stands
out most in my mind probably because I was invited to participate. My
first encounter with this sort of thing was as a teenager when my "friends"
sacrificed a litter of kittens to a paperback Necronomicon.
Next was a series of empty threats on-line from some moron who claimed to
represent the Esoteric Order of Dagon because I insisted that his paperback
Necronomicon was written in the 20th century for the sole purpose of
capitalizing the word Necronomicon (I was to find out later the EOD uses
some other book by the title Necronomicon).
Then of course there was my friend Pete (a member of the Church of Satan
and a Mason, hoodathunk´t?) He had a small circle that was experimenting
with rituals based on Lovecraft and managed to invoke something that
polluted the circles dreams with terror to the point that for a period,
they refused to go to sleep.
Then there´s assorted other hearsay. I´m interested in hearing other
people´s stories.
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DevilBunny
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posted on 5/9/2002 at 02:41 PM
Ohohoho... that´s the funnyest thing that I´ve read since a long time. Many
stupidity goes a long way, but this... I mean what next, people worshiping
the Queen Of The Damned (no wait, I know people that do...).
Lovecraft was a fantastic writer, one of the best american ones I´ve read,
BUT what he wrote was pure fiction and if somebody can´t tell it apart from
reality, well that´s his problem.
It´s fun to pretend Cthulhu is real and Dead But Dreaming... I´ve written
his name with magick sigils on the beach when I was younger, but that´s
it.
And I´d bash the fucker who sacrificed the kitties. If there is something
that I really hate, it´s people who harm animals for their own stupid
amusement. He, or they should have killed himself instead.
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posted on 5/9/2002 at 03:39 PM
Oh, those two got their Karma. I agree, there is very little I find more
despicable than torturing animals. That´s why I put friends in quotes.
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i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
Ironboots
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posted on 5/9/2002 at 04:20 PM
Finally! At last! A decent clue on my quest to figure out what you guys are
talking about! *makes mental note to look up Lovecraft*
For I have never understood Cthulhu, besides that he has a funny and nearly
inprounounceable name, and that Squid seems to know something about it.
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posted on 5/9/2002 at 05:48 PM
Cthulhu For President!!
heh...
Let me say one thing...who is anyone to say something is not "real"?
Untill you can prove to me that Cthulhu does NOT live then ill belive it.
Or Prove to me that he did or does "live" is that odd city beneath the
Pacific.
H.P. Lovecraft was a artist who brought his ideas and belives to life.
Does anyone know if he did or did not belive what he wrote? What would
give someone idea like that, then write such awesome books and storys about
his "beliefs?
As i learned with an interesting comment by shade, people are intiteled to
there opinion. But no one can saw honestly that something does, or does
not exist. I am very open minded when it comes to people writings and what
they belive in (except anything to do with religion dont get me
started).
And once again: Cthulhu for president.
~Morte :razz:
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I think that lovecraft´s amazing imagination and attention to excruciating
detail can make many believe that his entities either a) exist or b)
existed to him. That´s part of the fun.
And I thought I was crafty convincing my nephew that the soda pop "sprite"
got it´s name because sprites layed their eggs in the syrup and the little
bubbles were baby sprites being released into the atmosphere..and that´s
why it tickled his nose.
Lovecraft fucking rules, but I gotta say..."rats in the walls" or "the
color out of space" is by far the raddest...
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Lenore
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posted on 6/9/2002 at 02:43 AM
May I put a light upon the fact that insanity ran in the Lovecraft-family?
Howard´s father died of paresis in 1898, but his mother went insane. She
had quite an influece on him, and isolated him from other children. He had
a poor health, and therefore never got to college. He was a loner, the only
ones to mourn his death were far-off acquaintanceses. His writing was his
link to the world outside, and it was embraced by a small group of fans,
giving him cult status. The things of which he wrote were deities of his
own dreams and imagination, yes, but there are many speculations about the
existence of these creatures in the knowledge of man, long before Lovecraft
put their names down on the paper. There are also speculations that
Lovecraft collected what he could find out about this material, and used it
in his writings. The question of whether he believed in his mythology is
still in debate, but after years of nightmares, a normal person would
probably begin to wonder if it was more to it than just dreams.... Even so,
should the Cthulhu Mythos actually be true, it was not meant for the human
eye. *points down towards the signature*
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Xaoswolf
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posted on 6/9/2002 at 08:29 AM
The deities in lovecraft´s books and stories were based on ancient sumerian
Gods and mythology. Changed and turned into horror, but the roots were
there. I believe Lovecraft got his ideas from crowley, but whether he
bleieved in them or not I couldn´t tell you. Lovecraft also filled his
stories with racism, ever notice how all the badguys are somehow
"niggered"? I do love his work, but you won´t see me running around
looking for innsmouth yelling "Ia Ia".
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Lenore
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posted on 6/9/2002 at 08:49 AM
If I may qoute Robert Bloch, "if Lovecraft was a racist we must recognize
that the term was not generally considered pejorative during his own time.
In the twenties and thirties, Anglo-Saxon superiority was virtually taken
for granted not only in literature, but in daily life. And nowhere was this
belief more pronounced than in New England. Here the D.A.R. held sway, and
the ihabitants of the self-styled Shire of Liberty shuddered as their
communities were invaded by immigrants."
Don´t misunderstand me, even though it was normal to be a racist those
days, it doesn´t make it right, and I do not support racism of any kind. My
point is, Lovecraft matured, and so did his oppinions. After all, he
married a Jewess, and had many Jewish friends.
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Xaoswolf
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posted on 6/9/2002 at 01:02 PM
I forget where I was going when I made that point... But you´re right, it
was simply the norm back then.
I think I was going for a kind of going too much into what he says in the
books. Sorta like "Look at me, I´m summoning deepspawn. Lets go string us
up some darkies and carve the elder sign into their chests."
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Does that make me a bad person?
I noticed that undertone too, but it´s simply the sign of the period when
it was "acceptable" and "common". The first lovecraft story that I´d read
in YEARS was rats in the walls, and I about stopped reading it when I read
he´d named the big black cat "niggerman"! I was HORRIFIED. Then stopped,
thought about it, and realised how very much things have chinged since
then...
Still don´t like it, but I just sort of breeze over those words when I come
to them. It´s like reading tom sawyer or huck finn. Fine literature,
classics, but horridly socially out of date, to put it as nicely as
possible.
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 7/9/2002 at 01:26 AM
Hee hee hee...Cthulu for president; Why vote for the lesser of two
evils?
I keep meaning to get one of those bumper stickers.
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dead-cell
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posted on 7/9/2002 at 11:17 AM
Ok, so I admit it i´m somewhat of a research maniac (well when I want to
be). While exploring the dark sites of the internet, I uncovered two sites
with studies on the Necronomicon. Both sites had a history of the real
Necronomicon to the how Lovecraft learned of its existance. One site goes
by the name of the Psychonomicon, the other was at (I dont know how to do
links) http://home.bip.net/d.scot/Necro/Necro4.htm
enjoy
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I have a question...does anyone know how to SAY cthulhu?
Ch-ith-loo-oo?
ch-ith-ool-ahoo?
kth-ool-ahoo?
k-it-ooo-l-ahoo?
chi-mee-chon-ga?
ch-itt-y-ch-itt-y-bangbang?
Ow. My brain hurts.
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Xaoswolf
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posted on 8/9/2002 at 09:42 AM
It´s actually not meant to be said by human tounges, but rather spoken by
the star children and deep ones. It´s a really more like a gutteral noise
than it is a word. When trying to pronounce it, try coughing up a
hairball, you should be pretty close then.
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DevilBunny
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posted on 8/9/2002 at 10:35 AM
I think it´s supposed to be "ktoo-loo", try saing it with a mouthfull of
water, for the ideal effect.
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tofu-fetish
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posted on 8/9/2002 at 12:55 PM
Lovecraft fucking rules, but I gotta say..."rats in the walls" or "the
color out of space" is by far the raddest...
Hey Bettie, why are you talking like a stoner all of a sudden? Have you
been hanging out at the skate park again?
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tofu-fetish
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posted on 8/9/2002 at 01:00 PM
quote:It´s actually not meant
to be said by human tounges, but rather spoken by the star children and
deep ones. It´s a really more like a gutteral noise than it is a word.
When trying to pronounce it, try coughing up a hairball, you should be
pretty close then.
I did a search on Yahoo and found this:
"How the @#$! do I pronounce ´Cthulhu´?"
- Well, according to some Lovecraft authorities, ´Cthulhu´ is pronounced as
koo-TA-loo. I, however, pronounce Cthulhu´s great name as ka-THOOL-hoo.
This pronunciation, to me at least, sounds more in keeping with the general
auditory flavor of the Cthulhu Mythos. Azathoth, Nyarlothotep, Yog-Sothoth
- these words are meant to be pronounced heavily and grandly, not with the
quick, light sound of koo-TA-loo.
Well baby I´m talking like a pot head ´cause I´m a DOPE FIEND...reefer
madness changed my life.
I´m moving us to jamaica where we´ll spend our days growing dreadlocks,
smokin´ ganga, and surfing on discarded honeybucket walls.
You´re SOO gonna pay for being a brat when you fall asleep tonight
*bwahahahhah*
Ahem.
OH and I asked someone at work today and they said it´s "ka-thu-loo"
Whatever, not like I ever say it that often, it´s just been buggin me.
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