VampCourt
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posted on 13/4/2003 at 12:24 PM |
| Yah. I think your right rogue. I think hell derives from the word Sheeol..,
or some shit like that.. its been forever since i sat down and read up on
this stuff. Bah. ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts nor the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/4/2003 at 06:13 PM |
Yea...though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death...I fear no
evil...for I'm the meanest bitch in the damned valley  ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/4/2003 at 09:14 PM |
WHY did that just remind me of pulp fiction?
"Now go through that bag and get me my wallet out"
"which one is it"
"The one that says Bad Muthafucker"
*snort* ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/4/2003 at 11:30 PM |
Actually, there are 7 Hells mentioned in the Old Testament:
Sheol
Abaddon
The Pit of Oblivion
The Mire of Mud
The Valley of Death
The Gates of Death
and Gehenna
although none of these resemble the Xian conception of Hell which are
laregely based on the damnation of the Greek Titans in the underworld of
Hades, largely due to Dante.
Anyway, besides sheer racism (read: "ignorance") the Xian argument against
the possiblity of Jews being "saved" is due to the fact that Christ himself
spoke out against the Synagog (threw a bit of a tantrum in Temple one day)
making the Rabbis a bit cross with him which more or less sparked the
events surrounding his execution. On top of this 11 of the 12 Desiples
were Romans (I'm unsure as to the exact ratio, and I may be confusing the
Desiples with the Apostles but either way, X was preaching his own form of
Judiasm to people who were not Jews). ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
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AloneSoul
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posted on 14/4/2003 at 04:28 AM |
| I thought according to the Bible Christ went berserk at the temple because
the people transformed it into a market? ____________________
 but at least you know, just how much pain there is in living
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bettie_x
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posted on 14/4/2003 at 08:45 AM |
Does that mean that next time I have a total fit in public I can get away
with it by yelling "STAND BACK! JUST DOIN THE SAVIOR'S WORK HERE
PEOPLE!"
I'd give a nickle to watch the son of god get his knickers in a twist...a
nice shiny new one. I haven't seen a hippie pitch a fit since my friend
chased down a couple of jarheads in a parklinglot who thought it was smart
to make fun of her dreadlocks.... ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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VampCourt
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posted on 14/4/2003 at 09:26 AM |
Hahahah a violent hippie.
thats funny. ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts nor
the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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KatB
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posted on 14/4/2003 at 03:38 PM |
| Oooh I just HAVE to recommend a book with a really great angle to the Jesus
myth: Behold The Man, by Michael Moorcock. It RULES!!!! ____________________
All stressed out and no one to choke...
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/4/2003 at 11:27 PM |
| Oh man i can just see that poor bastard sittin on his little cloud lookin
down on the jerry fallwells and the holy rollers and the "holier than
tho's" and the like and screaming "NO!! NO YOU DIPSHITS!! THAT IS *NOT*
WHAT I SAID!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOOOOINGGG???!!!!! AARGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!" ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 15/4/2003 at 08:03 AM |
You know, if I had lived back in the day, I would have made it a point to
have gotten Jesus lit and laid...can you imagine a son of god drunk off his
ass?
Dude...make with the fire from the heavens!
Nah my son, that shit's whack yo!
C'mon J-dog...
A...fuck it...a'ight.
BLAM!
Hells yeah...
Actually, I've always wanted to get one of the Buddhas and maybe one of the
polynesian gods, like Pele (she's a hottie, but pure trouble from what I
understand) completely smashed...with Baccus as host to the festivities.
____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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Dolorosa
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posted on 15/4/2003 at 08:05 AM |
| Man I can get retarded sometimes...Peles Hawaiian, we know that...::punches
head:: bad retarded Dolo...no cookie. ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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VampCourt
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posted on 15/4/2003 at 09:26 AM |
| mmm jesus cookie. ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts nor
the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 15/4/2003 at 09:48 AM |
| jesus cookie? I wonder...would that taste like a communion wafer?
personally...I hope it tastes like oatmeal. ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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ComteStGermain
Occasional Poster   Posts: 21 Registered: 13/6/2002 Status: Offline
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 posted on 15/4/2003 at 09:59 AM |
"Jesus...it's not just for breakfast anymore."
"Jesus...the OTHER other white meat."
"Allah...it's the real thing."
"Things go better with Cthulhu."
"Faeries...bet you can't eat just one!"
"Loki...Think Different."
There are endless possibilites once we cross the Rubicon of advertising and
religion. This could lead to some truly amusing pop-up adds, the likes of
which have not been seen since the famed Chick tracts.
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 15/4/2003 at 02:41 PM |
*gets a Vampire: the Masquerade flash as she sees the name ComteStGermain
@_@*
Hehe...oatmeal is a very good cookie. *drooooolllllllllllllllllllllllll* ____________________
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VampCourt
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posted on 15/4/2003 at 02:52 PM |
oatmeal chocolate chip.
with a side of hey-zues ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts
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devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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Arthegarn
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posted on 16/4/2003 at 01:29 PM |
*Arthegarn appears in a puff of smoke*
Did someone call for me?
OK, Anya, I am one of the few practising Christians in the site. Now I will
give you seven reasons playing the Devil's advocate but that's NOT what I
think. There are a bloody LOT of "reasons" why are the Jew going to hell,
so feel free to argue and if you corner me with one I'll bring up another
one to keep the game up (I warn you I am a pretty damned well arguing
bastard of a lawyer)
First, we can say that the Jew are the Deicide People. THEY killed Jesus
and then claimed "may their blood fall upon our heads an upon our
childrens'". Therefore they murdered the Innocent and must be punished for
it as they, as a race, willingly and defyingly chose to accept the
consecuences of their actions.
Second, we can say that the first step towards being forgiven of one's sin
is repentance. As they don't acknowledge Jesus as the son of God they can't
regret killing Him. As they don't regret their sin, they are going to
hell.
Third it could be said Christ talked about both things: compassion for the
repentant and punishment for the willing sinners. His parables are full of
curses and condemning people to the "cold and clenching of teeth" (or
whatever the translation is into English). Ey, remember what He did to that
poor tree! Hell exists, and they deserve to go.
Fourth He said "The truth shall set you free" Therefore if you do not
acknowledge the truth you are not free, therefore if you do not accept Him
as your Savior you are condemned.
Fifth He said "I am the road of Truth and Life". If you don't follow His
footsteps, you are not walking that road and therefore... etc etc
Sixth, the matter of the Vicary Sacrifice: the sins of man are so great
only the sacrifice of the Son of God himself could atone for them. If you
reject that sacrifice, if you reject that He was the Son, then you are bond
by these sins bt not accepting th salvation He offers
Seventh: the Original Sin. Much like sixth above, you are not Baptised, you
are not clean from it, you go to Hell
Anyway if you want a couple of really GOOD arguments about all that rubbish
just e-mail or MSN me. Religion is my favourite topic. That and sex. If you
also want some GOOD arguments about why pre-marriage sex does not
neccessarily have to be a sin, I believe I posted something about that some
time here. The matter between arabs and jews in complicated (though plain
to see) and it's not about Sarah, believe me.
Sticupus is going to hel, Stipucus is going to heeelll (haw haw haw).
Merry Widow, the New Testament never says the jew are not going to hell It
suggests the opposite a couple of times (the old one is another thing, of
course...)
Closetgothbabe, that thing you describe is actually Heaven you know... and
you'll be there but just to serve as my personal sex slave
I am with Kat B, by the way, go find a Chrsitian forum. I suggest a Roman
Catholic one, quite clever fellows (whistles and pretends he didn't said
that)
AloneSoul, wanting to believe is the first step towards Faith and towards
fanaticism... it's only fanaticism is sooooo damned close...
Well I'd go on but I'm being called for supper...
Arthegarn
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KatB
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posted on 16/4/2003 at 03:55 PM |
| Quotes Dorothy Parker attending a Roman Catholic service: Love your hat
hon', but your purse is on fire! ____________________
All stressed out and no one to choke...
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 16/4/2003 at 06:35 PM |
Thanks for the reasoning Arthegarn. And for everyone else's humour, I'll
try to keep toned on depthened philosophy and/or opinions on this topic - I
didn't intend to offend anyone out there if I did...for some reason (I'm
paranoid :/) I felt like I did. Was just bringing up a topic that kept
alarming me in this small town and felt like giving a voice on it.
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 16/4/2003 at 07:38 PM |
...whatif you're not jewish but SOMEHOW you find yourself in every single
friggin one of those hellbound criteria? YOU PARTY AT MY HOUSE!
And Arthegarn, CGB is mine beeyatch. She bears the mark of my cult, the
bacardi bat on her shoulder, same as my husband, so THERE!!! ALL YOUR
BABES BELONG TO ME SUCKER!! ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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