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KatB
Fanatic   Posts: 241 Registered: 16/7/2002 Status: Offline
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 posted on 21/3/2003 at 02:57 AM |
Actual Dubya quotes
Maaan this is so good... ____________________
All stressed out and no one to choke...
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Monolycus
Fanatic  Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/3/2003 at 03:02 AM |
Starlight: I understand your ambiguity about oil completely. Stealing...
I mean acquiring it from poorer nations does mean that the push by the
present administration to rape... I mean drill for it in protected arctic
wildlife refuges will finally be put on a back burner. On the other hand,
it perpetuates our dependence upon fossil fuels, negatively impacts the
atmosphere and all those who dwell beneath it and cements the power of
those in the oil business (our present leaders). Natürlich, ist das ein
Messer mit zwei Rändern.
Shade: I am physically sickened by the casual way we throw away human
lives. Believe me, I understand your position when you want to minimise
that... however, I am not saying that war is preferable to assassination at
all. I am saying that assassination would become a very key component in
the ongoing justification of the senseless killing of even more people.
From my perspective, it is not preferring one to the other, they are the
same thing and create conditions which only exacerbate and continue
brutality and death. When a certain Serbian national assassinated a certain
Austrio-Hungarian archduke, he had convinced himself that he was doing the
right thing and was going to end the suffering of his people. Instead, he
started the first World War in which more people were killed than had ever
been killed up to that point. That is because violence can only catalyse
more violence, it can NEVER bring about peace. It is why I am staunchly
against the death penalty. Whenever you undertake an action, there are
ripples of consequence... more victims and families of victims, each with a
new sense of outrage and the premise that violence and killing can redress
crimes. Until we establish that it is wrong to kill anyone, under any
circumstances, people will always justify their barbarity by convincing
themselves that they are acting within exceptional circumstances. This is
why we must have recourse to the law... if we can establish, within legal
parameters, that someone is a danger to others and contain them within the
guidelines of justice, then troublemakers will be removed. If, on the
other hand, we can not establish legal culpability and act anyway
(convinced that we are right to do so), we are sanctioning the use of
violence and in effect telling people that killing other human beings is
something that is acceptable (in reality, we are saying that is not
unacceptable, which amounts to the same thing).
I apologise for all of this. I said that I was going to be brief, didn't
I? I am, I was, I will be
your faithful servant,
~Monolycus.
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Rae
Occasional Poster   Posts: 23 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/3/2003 at 07:45 AM |
As I was watching Dennis Miller Live, he spoke on the Iraqi' situation by
saying this:
quote:
All the rhetoric on
whether or not we should go to war against Iraq has got my insane little
brain spinning like a roulette wheel. I enjoy reading opinions from both
sides but I have detected a hint of confusion from some of you. As I was
reading the paper recently, I was reminded of the best advice someone ever
gave me. He told me about the kiss
method ("keep it simple, stupid!) So, with this as a theme, I'd like to
apply this theory for those who don't quite get it. My hope is that we can
simplify things a bit and recognize a few important facts. Here are 10
things to consider when voicing an opinion on this important issue:
1) Out of President Bush and Saddam Hussein ... Hussein is the bad guy.
2) If you have faith in the United Nations to do the right thing keep this
in mind, they have Libya heading the committee on human rights and Iraq
heading the global disarmament committee. Do your own math here.
3) If you use Google search and type in "French military victories,"your
reply will be "did you mean French military defeats?"
4) If you're only anti-war slogan is "no war for oil," sue your school
district for allowing you to slip through the cracks and robbing you of the
education you deserve.
5) Saddam and bin Laden will not seek United Nations approval before they
try to kill us.
6) Despite common belief, Martin Sheen is not the president. He plays one
on TV.
7) Even if you are anti-war, you are still an "infidel" and bin Laden
wants you dead, too.
8) If you believe in a "vast right-wing conspiracy" but not in the danger
that Hussein poses, quit hanging out with the Dell computer dude
9) We are not trying to liberate them.
10) Whether you are for military action or against it, our young men and
women overseas are fighting for us to defend our right to speak out. We
all need to support them without reservation.
Dennis Miller
Short, simple and to the point. Thank You Mr. Miller
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Monolycus
Fanatic Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/3/2003 at 08:32 AM |
Not picking a fight with you, Rae, and this is all I will say about the
matter:
I gave up on Dennis Miller when he appeared on Politically Incorrect with
Bill Maher in 2001 and advocated the suspension of the US Constitution
because it protects immigrants the same week he was on the Tonight Show
with Jay Leno advocating the racist profiling of all Arabs in the United
States because members of that deme were responsible for the September the
11th tragedy. I have mentioned before that a snide comment delivered with
an air of dismissive self-righteousness does not make what one says
correct.
~M.
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GothicVampire
Coward   Posts: 9 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/3/2003 at 09:45 AM |
| Sadam may be the bad guy for america because of one reason...He decided to
sell oil in Euros. America could not afford this to happen because for the
last 50 years they do not have gold for the dollars they are printing. Up
to now America's debt has reached 2.500 billion dollars. Most of the
countries of OPEC have also decided to sell in Euros. So America soon will
not be able to buy oil. It is that simple. Your economy will take the walk
down the hill. ____________________
+ It cannot rain all the time... +
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Rae
Occasional Poster Posts: 23 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/3/2003 at 09:45 AM |
No Mono, I don't take anything you say as picking a fight and I respect
your views. But, I feel that what he stated did make alot of sense,
especially who is the lesser of the two evils and the fact that no, neither
Saddam or bin ladden will seek UN approval to kill any of us, and the fact
of who is sitting on the UN council and who is head of the global disarment
committee and the committee on human rights is just completely
unnerving.
And I would like to know where everyone has drawn the conclusion that we
want their oil, obviously there are some who are not paying close enough
attention. The oil belongs to the Iraqi people, and, the money for that oil
after the decapitation or exile of Saddam, is going into a escrow account
with the U.N. to help rebuild and restore Iraq, not in the pockets of the
U.S.A.
Secondly, I am just going to come out and just say something that has
really bothered me for the longest time. How many of these anti-war
protestors who scream atrocities against the U.S. for "slaughtering"
innocents but at the same time are soaked in guilt of having abortions of
convenience or are in support of it? I don't want to hear anyone scream "I
am a humanitarian" and please, I don't want to hear the whole right to
choose..or if you were in Sally's shoes...she was raped.. no, no and no.. I
said abortions of CONVENIENCE..just so I am clear on that. But I find that
entirely hypocritical and nauseating.
I am sure I am looking at being scoffed at for making that statement, but I
am just calling it as I see it, just as everyone else here is doing with
thier opinions. One thing that I should also say is that I have much at
stake here too, My father, who has been a marine since I was about 4 years
old, is out there right now..so I stand the chance of losing someone I
love dearly, and the last thing I want is someone calling him a murderer,
or burning an American flag, so forgive me if emotions run deep and I come
off so strongly with my words.
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/3/2003 at 05:30 PM |
Monolycus - as usual, I bow to your intelligence, and, expecially, your
drive to truly research any subject you choose to have an opinion about.
Though I must say, this last trait is solid proof to me that you don't have
any children!
Shade - you, as usual, come off as intelligent and sensitive to the plight
of others. And with the humility to listen to others who differ in opinion
to you. You command my respect.
Rae - I also feel that the tendency to vilify Bush is a little too rampant
in our society. As wrong as he may be, he has yet to test chemical weapons
on his own people. And I, too, have a close relative in the military, who
happens to be stationed in an undisclosed location. You have my
sympathy.
I really don't know what to think about the new war. I hear from people
like Mono all sorts of facts that seem to back up conclusively the theory
that Bush is power hungry and war-mad. And then I hear from my mother, and
others like that, how she feels that he is only enforcing the terms of
disarmament, by which the Gulf War was put to rest, the terms that have
been ignored for so long.
My first urge is to believe that Bush is OK, but I know that this is how my
mind has been trained since birth. Republican = good. I know I've been
brainwashed.
But the thing about being brainwashed is, it's not always lies. There may
be truth mixed in. So I can't just jump to the conclusion that Bush is
horrible, just because I know I've been taught otherwise.
I hear a lot on this website about the awful things that Bush has done and
intended to do. Are they true? Perhaps. I would hate to think that, for
example, Mono has been making up all his facts, or that the websites that
have been linked are all twisting Bush's words, or things like that. Yet I
must also remember that I have not personally researched the facts. The
possibility exists that my new anti-Bush friends may be as biased as my
pro-Bush ones.
If I had the time and energy to research the question on my own, I would.
But anyone who would look down on me for my intellectual laziness has
obviously never tried to raise a baby, maintain a relationship, and work
full time all at once. If I research the contents of my refrigerator to
find out what I need to buy at the grocery store, I'm doing good.
Perhaps it's a horrible thing to have no opinion about the new war.
Perhaps I should pull my head out of the sand and pay attention to what is
going on.
But all I seem to want to do is ignore it, except to hope that my cousin is
alive and safe. And to hope that things aren't quite as dark and hopeless
as they seem when I read this forum. And then go check my baby's mouth for
signs of teeth (nearly 9 months, and they still haven't come through! But
I can see they're almost there...) or try to figure out if she's ready for
new foods or not.
I will say, Mono, if your facts are straight, and complete, then I feel I
have reason to be very worried about our leadership. It makes me very glad
that I was too busy losing my virginity to vote for Bush. At least, if he
really is that corrupt, there is no blame for electing him on my head.
And in the meantime, I will do my part to making America a country we can
be proud of - by raising a person who will know how to use her own mind, as
free from brainwashing as I can produce, with all the necessary moral fiber
and none of the legalism that masquerades as right and wrong. ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/3/2003 at 06:59 PM |
| Kat: The George Dubya Bush Quotes site was great ! ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/3/2003 at 04:01 AM |
Can o' fuckin worms, this whole situation...I swear.
Schitzo, I hear you on your side, and you know what, for someone who has
time to only absorb the bits and pieces that they hear and read between
diaper duty and work allergies, I would NEVER look down on you...because
you speak what you know and admit what you don't.
Rae: Sister, I swear, on the abortion of convenience issue vs
"humanitarians", I agree with you for a large part of it. To me it's the
equivalent of some punk kid railing against
"consumeristic/capitolistic/opportunistic pigs" who eats meat (because from
previous tirades of mine we can deduce that the meat and animal products
industry is the most rampant, harmful, and
consumeristic/capitolistic/opportunistic industry on the face of the
earth). AND THIS WAR IS NOT JUST ABOUT OIL. To a small extent, yes, but
largely? NOT AT ALL.
Mono: You're better than CNN.
This whole situation is getting harder and harder to find a "side" on.
I don't like Bush or what he is doing. I don't like Sadam and what he is
doing/has done.
I shouldn't have to pick a "lesser" of two evils. I grew up thinking there
were valid choices in this world. Man were my parents wrong.
On one hand I hear reports of Iraqi citizens saying "please don't bomb us,
don't invade us, sadam is OUR problem", anti war banners globally, people
against the war
On the other hand I see impoverished citizens jumping and waving and
cheering at soldiers as US/BRIT tanks roll through their "liberated"
villages.
My whole issue with the "liberation" side that we've decided all of a
sudden to champion (how suddenly politically correct of our news agencies)
is that we could have easilly done it OVER A DECADE AGO while we were still
there, and had a good strong foothold in the region with the Iraqi
leadership on the run. The Kurdish rebels in the north and the southern
tribal rebels in the south were making progress and taking their situation
into their own hands, albeit with some help from the US and allied nations.
They continued their rebellion as our leaders sat in tents and were
finessed by Iraqi generals into a cease fire, and we tied our own hands.
The rebels were promised help, expecting help, and when they were at a
major turning point to take back their country, we were long gone without
so much as a goodbye kiss. They were slaughtered. Why? Because
"continuing our campaign was no longer necessary, as our objectives had
been achieved". We boosted them up and let them fall because we got what
we wanted. If we really wanted sadam OUT we had EVERY OPPORTUNITY then,
and we opted out, to contain rather than eliminate, for whatever reasons.
This "disarmament/liberation" campaign to me, is way too little way too
late. It's a cheap cover for a feindish plan (www.newamericancentury.org)
and the american public is lapping it up like a trained dog.
Okay, I'm losing it a little because it's WAY TOO LATE for little old me to
be up typing, and I'm losing my train of thought, objective, and
rationalle. Plus I'm out of cigarettes and I have to make a trip to the
store for niccotine and espresso syrup (goddamned coffeejunkie
husband!).
Goodnight, and I'm sure when I re read this tomorrow morning I'll need to
do some serious editing, so take everything herin with a grain of
salt....and a slice of lime...and a shot of tequilla. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Monolycus
Fanatic Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/3/2003 at 04:13 AM |
I have just finished re-reading this forum from start to finish, and I am a
little confused. I haven't been researching any of these issues any more
than to watch the news programs on PBS (primarily Frontline, Now with Bill
Moyers, and World News Report), occasionally MSNBC and I do check
ABCnews.com about once every other day for current events. I haven't cited
anything yet that hasn't been broadcast as a matter of public record.
Actually, it was Bettie that brought to my attention the Project for a New
American Century (PNAC) with her post on the subject (and I am indebted,
thank you, Bettie). I do make note of small things as they arise and try
to integrate them into a larger picture of what has already been
established based upon my knowledge of human beings and their past
histories, but I have no more access to resources than anyone here (maybe a
bit less since I do not subscribe to any cable television services and only
have network news at my disposal).
My opinion of the present administration (as my distaste for the previous
administration was) is not based upon any hidden knowledge or insight. I
haven't dug into what anyone could describe as "conspiracy" sources. When
I stated that our interest is in seizing Iraqi oil, for example, it was
based upon a publicly broadcast press conference George the Younger gave
within the last two weeks (the same one I mentioned to Merry_Widow in which
he said "... This is scripted... er...") where he included during a list of
"humanitarian concerns" for the Iraqi people during our planned invasion
that "Oil-for-food drop off points have already been established...". This
was broadcast on all the channels I have access to within the past two
weeks. I have seen no reference to a UN escrow account before now, and
would like to read the fine print of such an arrangement. After Enron, I
think it has been demonstrated that superficial accounting is not
sufficient to understand what is being done with money and resources.
In those instances in which we are not dealing with facts qua facts, but
rather with our opinions (such as who is the greater threat to world
peace?), I have tried to present my arguments within the bounds reason. By
laying the basis for my conclusions out as clearly as possible, I am
inviting everyone to demonstrate to me where I am commiting any logical
fallacies. I have said in previous forums that I have been shown to be
wrong before, and I think that it is beneficial for everyone to dissect
propositions and amend our beliefs accordingly. I do not see where it is
useful to have dogmatic beliefs that are written in stone and am therefore
careful to find reasons to support my conclusions. I am neither Republican
nor Democrat and have no partisan bias (evil men and women have come in all
shapes, sizes and colours in my experience). If I conclude that Bush is
more of a threat than Hussein, it is based upon my understanding of who has
the greater access to laws, weaponry and money and who has demonstrated the
least compunction about utilizing them for their own mercenary advantages.
While Hussein might have made a personal hero out of Josef Stalin (he has,
once again, public record), but I know people who think Vlad "the Impaler"
Tepes was a pretty cool guy. Doesn't mean anything. On the other hand,
George the Younger took advantage of many underhanded tricks to steal a US
election (demontrating contempt for the will of the American people),
killed more death row inmates as governor of Texas than any other governor
ever has, even mocking Karla Faye Tucker's pleas for clemency on television
(demonstrating contempt for human lives), refused to prosecute or restrain
businesses where his or close friend's financial interests were at stake
even at the expense of millions of employee's retirement benefits
(demonstrating contempt for the welfare of the American people), as
governor of Texas said that US Army personnel at Ft. Bragg should not be
allowed to practice Wicca since "That is not a real religion"
(demonstrating contempt for the beliefs of Americans)... and the list goes
on and on. Now, we see as a matter of public record that Hussein and
George the Younger are both not very nice, but of the two of them, one has
access to the most powerful military in the world and more finances and
manpower in the world and has now demonstrated that he will use them to get
his way even if the overwhelming will of the planet opposes him. The other
guy lives in a desert.
I have not been busy researching night and day, I have mentioned, where
possible, where my information has come from, and I have outlined the bases
for my conclusions when they are only opinions that I have formed. I have
steered clear of one-liners, jingoism or invective and have invited people
to examine my conclusions based upon the best and most clear evidences that
I can provide. And yet, I will STILL have people suggest that I am an
anti-American conspiracy theorist with a chip on my shoulder.
~M.
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Monolycus
Fanatic Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/3/2003 at 06:26 AM |
In the interests of being as unbiased as possible, I should mention that
the list of "Dubya quotes" that KatB provided are not actually things that
George the Younger has said. I have seen many of them attributed to Quayle
during George the Elder's administration. Please see
www.TruthorFiction.com (sorry, I don't know how to provide a link for it)
about the use of those quotes in the past.
I will thank you for providing the link anyway, KatB, because of the
redirect at the end regarding profiteering from the war on terrorism. That
information is, as far as I have been able to tell, both valid and
necessary for public disclosure.
~M.
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KatB
Fanatic Posts: 241 Registered: 16/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/3/2003 at 09:28 AM |
Hmm - to bad, it was a funny site...
Oh well, I'm just happy I live in a small cold european country, fat with
oil and a good tradition of democracy, good apples and the Nobel Peace
Price. And excellent plumbing.
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Rae
Occasional Poster Posts: 23 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/3/2003 at 11:33 AM |
Mono- It has been stated on MSNBC what will take place with the oil after
the war, and you can also visit the U.N. website where there is an abundance of information
and emphasis on what will happen after the fall of the regime.
The profits from Iraqi Oil has been set up in a U.N. account for years,
it's called the food for oil program, and it will continue to remain, but
more will be given to the people and not going into Saddam's pocket, and it
will NEVER be controlled by the American government.
You are all good people here, and I am sure you speak from the heart with
good intentions, and as harsh or mean as I may sound at times, I am doing
so as well. When I witness all this bashing and throttling on Bush, or the
American people in general, it bothers me and I feel like I am being a
coward about my beliefs or my feelings by sitting back and saying nothing.
It seems everyone has the lost the focal point here, instead of being
concerned for our own saftey and security, we are more concerned with still
brooding over the vote count, which, I thank whatever god there is that
mr.whiney pants who cried about the vote count did not get in, or we would
be in deep shit about right now. The votes were counted THREE times, he
lost, get over it, it holds no relevance to the war now.
Quite honestly, I am tired of hearing anti-sentiments from non-U.S.
citizens about my country and what takes the cake is when I sit and watch
alot of pansie ass Americans sit and pacify foreigners who are
anti-American and want to hurt us..talk about sleeping with the enemy.
I also was upheaved when Hillary Clinton took the Senate floor and shouted
out against Bush for the slaughter of innocence in Iraq..I lost it! This is
the SAME piece of trash that disposed of how many lives in their little
scandal? This is the SAME person who was married to the person who could
have possibly prevented Sept 11? Oh, that's right, he was too busy
ejaculating on Monica's dress, and is this the SAME woman who supported
third trimester abortions as a woman's right to choose? What a
hypocrite...humanitarian my ass. This is the kind of crap that makes me
want to spew last weeks meal.
But let's beat up on the guy for doing what he feels is necessary to do, I
think he is handling the war fine, and gee, for those people have democracy
shoved down thier throats, they seemed pretty happy about it..dancing in
the streets and hugging our troops.
I have stated this before, many of us open our mouths without every knowing
exactly what we are talking about. I may not like something Bush does, but
I am not in that oval office reading over all the fine print and looking at
everything on the table, and neither is rest of the public, so we can make
all the assumptions we want, and point fingers, but until we are able to
walk a mile in that man's shoes, no one has room to condemn.
I think too, that alot make the choice to dislike him just for the fact
that he is "christian"..that is the wrong reason to condemn, because deep
down you are lashing out for personal reasons, so your no better. It
doesn't bother me what he is as long as he does his job, and not one
decision has been based off of his christian belief. When he used the term
Axis of Evil, in was in a language that THEY could understand. But, it got
twisted around to him being a religious zealot.
If I must stand alone on my beliefs, than I will. But I am not going to
follow the majority opinion. This is my Country, and my allegiance is with
her. I just feel that there are alot out there that need to pull the
daisies out their asses and stop smoking the hemp and snap out of the
delusional "peace" crap. There never will be a Utopian society. You can not
deal with a tyrant, a barbarian, on a rational level, they can not, will
not comprehend it, in Saddam's and bin ladens case, war is all they
understand, and they are too self righteous to care about their own..they
are expendable. If nothing else, I can at least feel comfortable that my
America does not find all of it's civilians expendable.
If I have offended anyone, I apologize. Don't take it personally, Just view
it as a rant from the opposing side and nothing more.
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Monolycus
Fanatic Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/3/2003 at 01:52 AM |
KatB: I would trade our military superiority for Norway's good apples and
excellent plumbing (or Sweden or Canada's healthcare system) any day.
Rae: I have looked over the link that you provided, thank you.
Unfortunately, I do not see how it resolves the fundamental conflict of
interest that arises. We are still the world's greatest consumers of oil,
so we have always planned to purchase it regardless of who owns it on
paper. If we supplant a regime with a puppet administration that is
friendly to our interests, we are in a position to dictate the price of our
purchases. If we own the Iraqis, then they own their oil in the same sense
that my cat "owns" her water dish. All of that aside, as Bettie has pointed
out, oil has been a sideline agenda in all of this anyway.
Beyond that, I am afraid that we are at something of an ideological
impasse. I do not accept the bulk of your premises and you do not accept
mine. I do not feel that every foreigner wants to kill Americans, and I do
not see how bullying the world would make them any more kindly disposed to
us if they did feel that way. While I agree that Clinton's administration
was riddled with corruption, I think that their petty contrivances pale by
an order of magnitude to the establishment of security measures that turn
us into suspects in our country or making the INS into a branch of the
state secret police. I do not see how a woman's right to choose to have an
abortion in a safe and sterile environment has anything to do with
terrorism.
Dolorosa began a forum in which he expressed that it was now fashionable to
be anti-American. I think that when you are a conservative, you must see
liberals everywhere and when you are liberal you see conservatives
everywhere. Speaking from my perspective, I could not give a hoot in Hell
if someone burns flags or shits red, white and blue as long as their
beliefs are not simply founded on the ways they have been conditioned to
accept the world without thinking about them. I am encouraged by the
amount of genuine debate that has been going on lately because it is never
harmful to anyone to have to examine the reasons that they believe the
things they do. I, personally, do not see anti-Americans everywhere I
turn, and even if I did, I would prefer that to the flood of brain dead,
reflexive flag-waving that I saw going on in late 2001/early 2002.
I appreciate that you feel you have to give voice to your beliefs. I,
however, do not foresee that I will be subscribing to them. I am, I was, I
will be
your faithful servant,
~M.
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KatB
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posted on 23/3/2003 at 03:01 AM |
Mono, we'd make good use for you here if you need a change :-)
And for the record, Norways's got better healthcare system than Sweden.
I swear, the insurance system you guys deal with in the US - man, it's like
really bad science fiction.
Oh, and education is free & equal for all. ____________________
All stressed out and no one to choke...
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/3/2003 at 12:09 PM |
| Looking around on TV and all I can see is a macabre painting all done in
grays...is there anything good on anymore? ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/3/2003 at 03:48 PM |
Well, Mono, if you have time to watch Bush's speeches AND enough attention
left after all distractions to actually pay attention, you already have
done far more research than I could ever do. Perhaps it is the fact that
you are such a good logician that makes it seem that you have researched
more than the average Joe. Anyway, you still have my respect. Though if
you could do it with a baby in the house, you would have my absolute awe
and near-worship. They could make you the eighth wonder of the world!
Alas, for the days when I could research and THINK!!! I guess I'm just
feeling sorry for myself that I can't dive into this debate like I wish I
could. ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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KatB
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posted on 24/3/2003 at 04:10 PM |
A golden oldie:
Monty Python's Axis of Evil
Bitter after being snubbed for membership in the "Axis of Evil," Libya,
China and Syria today announced that they had formed the "Axis of Just
as
Evil," which they said would be more evil than that stupid
Iran-Iraq-North
Korea axis President Bush warned of in his State of the Union address.
Axis of Evil members, however, immediately dismissed the new Axis as
having, for starters, a really dumb name.
"Right. They are just as evil . . . in their dreams!" declared North
Korean
leader Kim Jong-il. "Everybody knows we're the best evils . . . best at
being evil . . . we're the best."
Diplomats from Syria denied they were jealous over being excluded,
although
they conceded they did ask if they could join the Axis of Evil. "They
told
us it was full," said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
"An axis can't have more than three countries," explained Iraqi
President
Saddam Hussein. "This is not my rule, it's tradition. In World War II
you
had Germany, Italy, and Japan in the evil Axis. So, you can only have
three...and a secret handshake. Ours is wickedly cool."
International reaction to Bush's Axis of Evil declaration was swift, as
within minutes, France surrendered. Elsewhere, peer-conscious nations
rushed to gain triumvirate status in what has become a game of
geopolitical
chairs.
Cuba, Sudan and Serbia announced that they had formed the "Axis of
Somewhat
Evil," forcing Somalia to join with Uganda and Myanmar in the "Axis of
Occasionally Evil," while Bulgaria, Indonesia and Russia established the
"Axis of Not So Much Evil Really as Just Generally Disagreeable."
With the criteria suddenly expanded and all the desirable clubs filling
up,
Sierra Leone, El Salvador, and Rwanda applied to be called the "Axis of
Countries That Aren't the Worst But Certainly Won't Be Asked to Host the
Olympics".
Canada, Mexico and Australia formed the "Axis of Nations That Are
Actually
Quite Nice But Secretly Have Some Nasty Thoughts About America," while
Scotland, New Zealand and Spain established the "Axis of Countries That
Want Sheep to Wear Lipstick." "That's not a threat, really, just
something
we like to do," said Scottish Executive First Minister Jack McConnell.
While wondering if the other nations of the world weren't perhaps making
fun of him, a cautious Bush granted approval for most axis, although he
rejected the etablishment of the "Axis of Countries Whose Names End in
'Guay," accusing one of its members of filing a false application.
Officials from Paraguay, Uruguay, and Chadguay denied the charges.
Israel, meanwhile, insisted it didn't want to join any Axis, but
privately
world leaders said that's only because no one asked them.
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/3/2003 at 05:03 PM |
BAHAHAAHAHAH that is SO PERFECT!
"chadquay" ~pees~
I think it sums the situation up rather nicely, if I do say so myself.
And my secret handshake is HELLA WICKED COOLER than "Little Bush's" stupid
handshake. He can't beat it. AXIS OF DOOM SHALL RULE! We'll each be our
own sovereign nation (hey if they can have "army of one" I can be a "nation
of one") and we'll have as many as we damn please!
Working on an anthem of doom and a flag of doom as we speak.... ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/3/2003 at 04:28 PM |
| Bettie, can I please pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaase PRETTY PLEASE be a part of your
Axis of Doom? You do need 3 members, according to the rules! ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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