KatB
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 02:32 PM |
Well, I sure ass hell am no American, but I'm still fairly convinced that
the only reason Bush jr came into power was that he had a better marketing
crew than the rest. Sure, everyone is entiteled to a bad day, or some
unfortunate quotes, but gimme a break, if only ten percent off the fuck-ups
this guy's supposedly did or said - I am very sceptical to a world where he
is in charge of the most powerful force.
Oh, when I put it that way it actually made sence...
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All stressed out and no one to choke...
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 03:44 PM |
While I do not hate Bush, I do not consider highly of him either. But
yeah, he has a tough job. I'm not trying to claim that pacifism is the
solution to everything, but I do agree that war should be considered
deeply.
No, war isn't something that should NOT happen...for it's happened in all
and out history and thus, proves a thing that humans do. The thing I
dislike the most about war,if anything, however, is the consequences.
Bettie's thoughts of the anti-Christ theory actually seems to make sense.
Now my next question - why have war when we have not finished the war
within ourselves? Just a question. 
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Geist
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 04:01 PM |
| I think it should all be setteled with a big rock paper scissors
tournament. Fly Iraqs and Americas military to a 3rd, neutral country and
let the tournament begin. First side to have all of its soldiers eliminated
wins. We win we get their oil like Bush wants. Sadam wins he can do what
ever the fuck he wants... ____________________
Chasity - the most unnatural of all sexual perversions...
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 04:03 PM |
i try to discuss politics as little as possible on shmeng as i tend to go
overboard, get personal, and respect is lost but alas here i am:
bush is only a xian superficially, just as he is a mason, and to a lesser
extent a brother of scull and bones. he really only gives a shit about one
thing and that's playing the game.
before 9/11 he was the butt of every joke to the extent that there was even
a sitcom about his idiocy. then within the span of one day he was
"fearless leader" and the us citizens flocked tohim like the lambs they are
(not intended to be biblical symbolism)
bush realized he was winning points and as long as he kept this eddge he
could have more success in the game. the problem was that a year later he
still couldnt find bin laden so he needed saddam to keep his edge and
thanks to down-home white american racism, made it almost believable to
some (cause let's face it, all the brown people want to do is kill off the
white people)
the truth is ifhe does begin a war it will have to be just before
re-election so he can stay in he game. the trick is to keep people
interested until then ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 05:33 PM |
All I can say is America may as well become the demons she has been
fighting against... *goes into a deep trance*
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 08:16 PM |
Anya I agree with you, but also there's this: to fight a beast you gotta BE
a beast. Doesn't make it okay tho, I'm there with you on that. We're on a
dangerous dangerous road.
Fuck Freedom Fries. Fuck Freedom Toast. "WHY FREEDOM"? Why not just deep
fried potatoes or fried bread and egg? Self aggrandising dipshits, all of
'em and if I could EAT *FRENCH* toast, I'd EAT FRENCH TOAST NOT FUCKING
FREEDOM ANYTHING. I flick my thumb at them...FEH. Idiots.
As for the Nostradamus predictions of the third "antichrist" it really just
came to me as I was typing that. I should call the coast to coast am show
on openline night...maybe email george nori about that and see what he
thinks. Back in the days of napoleon and Hitler, and in MOST wars, they
were lead by a singular megalomaniac, who acted alone...who had help, but
who acted alone. One man and his minions against the world.
Now with the world so interconnected and such, with so many people, I can
totally see nostradamus saving some time (or TOTALLY thinking of a good way
to screw with our heads) or perhaps out of confusion to the situation (as
confusing as it is, as we all can see) he combined ALL THREE men into one
entity. I think that's a damned fine theory, and even if it's a well
thought out pipe dream I'm friggin pround of thinkin of it! 
Squid I'm SO GLAD that you brought up skull and bones. Not a lot of people
know about that, and it's fucking freaky. One guy has a website devoted to
it and he supposedly has JR. on audiotape during a ceremony, and chanting
the mantra with the group "LIFE IS DEATH" or somethingorother.
If you guys really wanna know what puts me up on edge about this guys and
the guys he CHOSE to have with him during his presidency,
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
Now tell me what this war is really about. Now tell me what the
controversy over the election was all about. Now tell me REALLY why france
and germany want nothing to do with our govt. and it's agenda. Because
they KNOW...they just aren't going to say it, and they're as scared as we,
the general somewhat informed public, are.
Bush won't be re-elected, because he wasn't elected to begin with. He will
be re-appointed...not because he'll earn it, but because they'll NEED him.
He's as much puppet as he is puppeteer. Perhaps he thinks he's doing the
right thing, the righteous thing, that he's on the good path, and that
perhaps he feels his intentions are right.
But as we all know so very well, the road to hell is PAVED with good
intentions, and with the souls of those that stand in it's way. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 10:36 PM |
Someone thought that me philosophizing over this was a way to amuse myself
when people are about to spill their blood. I guess I could somewhat see
her point, but oh well. She insisted I should do something to support
those who will be needing it. Whether she notices or not, though, a lot of
my artwork I do involves what I see going on...the conversation was
actually beneficial. Actually, it gave me an idea for my next piece...the
"mother" I would like to call her...standing luminously over a darker self
of her as a sign of hope. I'm not optimistic, but I think some people may
need some faith in these dark times.
Anyway...back into the subject. Yeah, you will likely sometimes need to
play a bit of a monster to fight monsters, but the next fear about the
inevitable is how far it'll go...and I'm afraid it may go further than what
we may anticipate.
Speaking of Hitler, my mom actually felt that Mr. President had some
similar qualities to him. For some reason, I do not blame her.
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/3/2003 at 12:53 AM |
If there is one thing that I wish I could have is faith. Unfortunately I
just can't accept it, faith in anything, but myself. Kinda sad isn't it?
Besides, as it proves in the bible, the faithful are always tested and
tortured to the end of their days....as I see it if I have no faith, nobody
can "test" it, especially a celestial sadist. Shitty pay off for a life of
servitude if you ask me. I say FECK to it. And baby stop talkin about
painting! You're making ME want to paint, and I dont' have any sketches
prepared and I'm runnin out of supplies!!!!! *EEP*
Oh wait, I have faith that the world is fucked, and George, Osama, and
Saddam are fighting over the strap-on. There you go, perhaps I'm not such
a heathen afterall *snort* ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 14/3/2003 at 12:20 PM |
Faith is a double-edge. I don't think it's best to be too faithless, but I
also do not think a reliance on faith does any good. I'm not going to
stand in the middle of nowhere and just "pray" - I'm going to try to get
out of nowhere first.
Yeah...the issue going on is going to be harsh...I guess we just have to
face what cannot be changed. I mean, we're not the world leaders so we
have little say in politics.
Someone actually said that there's few good politicians - those who are a
good politician usually would not be a politician.
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 16/3/2003 at 05:10 PM |
| Not sure why...maybe I'm annoyed with hearing about it on the news all the
time...who knows...but at this point I'm ready to say let's just go ahead
and kick Iraq and Saddam's ass and get it over with already. ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 16/3/2003 at 07:34 PM |
I hear you...all they're doing right now is taking out their dicks and
comparing sizes on the table (the World).
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 12:55 AM |
Please, sadam could bend over and spread his cheeks and ask george to give
it to him, and we'd STILL be going to war. Nothing is gonna stop it.
Helooooooo new american century. Huzzah for world domination. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Ironboots
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 06:35 AM |
Nothing, Bettie? I beg to differ!
I'm sure Bush would acquiesce if the almighty god came down and said three
things directly to him:
That "going after Saddam is a bad thing"
That "you'll get reelected no matter what you do."
"Free beer at my house!"
Okay, maybe it'd work with just the first two... ____________________
Piggy's got the Conch!
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 08:54 AM |
Yeah...Bush needs help - he's infested with megalomania...but that's my
thoughts
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 10:17 AM |
| I agree. His ego is like the size of a 747 jumbo jet, and he is willing to
use that jet to slam into another country! Oi vey, I wish I lived
somewhere else. Maybe Canada? ____________________
"People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
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Anonymous
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 12:42 PM |
Canada is great, but we are right next door... if america goes down we are
not far behind. We are physically, economically and culturally connected.
Our prime minister is against the war, but you better beleive hes sending
our soldiers wherever yours go. It's almost worse, because we are trapped
into going along with whatever happens.
The world is a scary place.
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Catiana
Occasional Poster   Posts: 21 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 12:44 PM |
oops that anonymous was me.
(have to own up to my own comments for better or worse hehe) ____________________
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 02:19 PM |
| Icky! Okay then I am going to Ireland, or some nuetral country! ____________________
"People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is
the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
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Closetgothbabe
Member  Posts: 189 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 08:36 PM |
| Well fuck Im going to hell, heard its nice there this time of year ::evil
grin:: ____________________
Guns are good, Guns are great...Kill the people that you hate!
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Monolycus
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posted on 18/3/2003 at 11:29 PM |
"It's always summer in Hell!"
~Fred Schneider of the B-52s.
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