I was browsing through some political discussions in other forums and there
came a statement about Bush being "the Anti-Christ." While I'm not
religious, for some reason, I could see that...again, that's my share of
weed.
Does anyone here agree with me?
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Closetgothbabe
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posted on 6/3/2003 at 07:00 PM
No cause the anti christ is supposed to bring world peace and I dont see
Bush doing that exactly......LMAO but that is from what my pentecostal
christian parents have said to me about the end of time and such.
Anonymous
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posted on 6/3/2003 at 07:06 PM
I thought it was the other way around? *chuckles* If that was the case then
I disagree, too.
Well...he -appears- as a Messiah to a bunch of pro Bushers, but to me, I
think he's just as monsterous as the people he goes against.
Anya
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posted on 6/3/2003 at 07:10 PM
I thought it was the other way around? *chuckles* If that was the case then
I disagree, too.
Well...he -appears- as a Messiah to a bunch of pro Bushers, but to me, I
think he's just as monsterous as the people he goes against.
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Closetgothbabe
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posted on 6/3/2003 at 07:15 PM
The anti christ is supposed to bring world peace at first cause its his way
of fooling everyone into believing him a good person.....then whoever the
anti christ is, is also supposed to die and come back to life the same as
Jesus did in the bible....lets hope Bush isnt the anti christ cause once
hes dead I hope he stays gone!! hehehe
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posted on 6/3/2003 at 07:17 PM
Yeah...I don't hate him or anything, but all that "Good" and "Evil" crasse
he's filling the television with kind of gets old. Hehe.
He's not the antichrist...but I have a feeling that he and saddam are the
catalysts that will bring about the rise of an "antichrist". This whole
situation is what a springboard is to a nuclear capable gymnast. Launch us
into it and then the REAL fun starts.
Technically an "antichrist" is anyone who is well...anti-christ. Being a
satanist I technically AM an antichrist, I just have no desires of global
domination and destruction (so far...). Nostradamus was the one who really
coined that term (made it a household word anyway) in his predictions of
napoleon and hitler and that oh so evasive "third antichrist...the final"
named in code as "mabus". What unnerves me is that perhaps the "blue
turban" he spoke of and his description of said person is the spittin image
of bin laden..but then again his works are so coded so as to avoid panic
and persecution, that unless you've spent years studying it, it's almost
impossible to decipher. Perhaps "mabus" isn't bin laden, maybe isn't even
bush or saddam...but they are merely key players all combined into one
entity, because they all play a very integral part. Back then, when things
were "simpler" and enemies and saviors were easily defined in the world (in
both cases of the "antichrists" they were single men who rose to power and
acted autonamously) it would be easier for him to name a single person, a
man with one name, but as time progressed and alliances became more complex
and numerous and their implications far more global than naieve "the world
is flat" france, he could do no more than give one name to perhaps an
"unholy trinity"...a COLLECTIVE antichrist, this one entity having
characteristics of ALL THREE men because in this globally connected world
they were seen as one and the same to him. Hence my understanding of the
issue of "mabus" being so difficult to decipher into a single name
belonging to one man. "mabus", using the code, spells out the names or
close personal tie ins of ALL THREE MEN. The easiest of the three is that
well, mabus backwards and flip the b spells "sadam"...but he didn't MAKE it
easy for a reason.
And perhaps the writings were misunderstood, and "mabus" Isn't in fact the
antichrist, but as said before, the gymnasts springboard into the situation
that would allow this being to rise to power under the guise of having "all
the answers".
Bah. I'm up too early, and all this horrible THINKING business is makin my
eyeballs hurt.
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Anya
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posted on 7/3/2003 at 05:36 PM
Yeah, I can see how that could work.
I'm not labeled under any specific religion or spiritual group (though I am
spiritual myself), but I could easily be defined as an agnostic.
As far as politics go, however, I'm not quite impressed. Someone last
night told me in a conversation this, "There aren't any good politicans -
if there was, he'd not be a politician." For some reason I can feel myself
nodding vigorously to this.....
Then again...read Edgar Allan Poe...and question yourself, "Which man is
darker?"
*chuckles*...Drifted off again.
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Catiana
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posted on 7/3/2003 at 05:56 PM
I dunno if he's the anti-christ, but he seems anti-peace... i know there
are a thousand sides to this story and i dont want to start a "yes or no
war" thing, but i just dont see how killing innocent people will create
peace. actually - im seeing that he is saying "i want peace!" but
killing people and bombing stuff to do it... maybe he is the anti-christ
then ?
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Anya
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posted on 7/3/2003 at 09:56 PM
I have little qualms with war for it's part of human nature...from that
point of view. However, I do feel that a good amount of people can do
better to try things passively. I mean...without war, certain things (like
the USA becoming independent from Britian during the Revolutionary War,
etc) would not happen.
Then again, maybe I'm a "wimpy pathetic little pacifist" or
something...like they say, anyway. It's usually more difficult to go
without a war in certain situations, but the more effort usually comes up
with more promising results. Of course, that won't always be the case.
While war is part of human nature, I do have to frown upon the results from
a war. I agree with Catiana, though - there's little peace in what Bush is
doing...or is about to apply, rather.
He's not the anti-christ, he's a pain in all our asses is what he is. True,
he is evil, and mean, and right wing. But i wouldnt go so far as to call
him the antichrist.
Whos gonna participating in protests this up comming starday?
Because (warning sarcasm) I mean, bush isnt at all going after saddam
because he wants his oil and land or anything..
its because GOD is on his side for this war, and GOD wants him to make more
money.
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VampCourt
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posted on 11/3/2003 at 12:20 PM
and by "god" i mean large wide pink rubber dildo up his ass
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Anya
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posted on 11/3/2003 at 07:32 PM
I'm sure Hussein needs to be dealt with, but it would have been more
justified 12 years ago - not now. All I can say is I hope we can deal with
this peacefully...war comes with more than what Bush is giving it credit
for...despite his claims that he does not want war.
I don't think he's the "antichrist" perse, but as I stated I think
(prophecy-wise that is) that the "antichrist" is a sort of conglomerate of
the three men in the center of this ordeal.
Saddam, George, and Osama.
Speaking of impending armagedon, I'm gonna go read "good omens" again.
And have a drink. In the tub. I'm in a wretched wretched mood.
I give up. I give up. I give up.
They can have this world, all it's ills, it's wrongs, it's murderers, it's
butcherers, it's egomaniacs and warmongers on every continent, it's
misgivings and it's diseases of the soul. I'm through with it. With
everything.
I just wish they'd get it over with.
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VladII
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 12:09 AM
oh , there were so many antichrist... why the people always searching the
evil in some transcendent terms , why the simple do not say " yeah the
person XY is stupid and bad"?
about bush, I do not think that everything he did is good, but he is still
better then others e.g. Saddam, etc...
i think it is a question of " voting the smaller evil" if you know what i
mean.
and - last but not least- antichrist will be cooler
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 03:14 AM
Okay...I am Not going to call French Fries and French Toast....Freedom
Fries and Freedom toast, and if I walk into a restaurant and ask for French
Fries the employees can bite my ass if they don't like it.
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 08:28 AM
Freedom fries and Freedom Toast? You've got to be kidding me.
Why not - I refuse to take part in any new world war unless wiping France
off the map - or at least the Frenchies - is on the agenda.
By the way, Norway's largest newspaper have a regular column with moronic
statements fom Bush Jr. Clever move, I don't think that well will ever run
dry.
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Dolorosa
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posted on 12/3/2003 at 11:37 AM
You know, he's got his problems, pres. Bush does...then again everyone
does. He says stupid crap, and he's most definately a christian of some
sort...but if he didn't have a few problems, I sure as well wouldn't trust
him as far as I could throw him. He has one hell of a hard job
too...Americans aren't particularly unified in anything, we love to
villafy, particularly the media in general (News broadcasters love a
villain...and in current events they even got two!)
To top that, he has to prove and maintain America's image and strength...I
don't think it's about saddam and his piddly little weapons anymore, I
think i's about America showing that it isn't some push-over nation...like,
er...hypothetically lets say France or some such. We lose our image as a
sleeping giant, and the shit is going to hit the fan in a hard way. I don't
envy the man...he's in the process of forming one of the first if not the
first Dynasty in America, he has a split, fractitious population that
really does love to hate him...even though damn near none o them have ever
met the guy, he has a burgeoning crisis over America's current incarnation,
an antagonistic enemy with a fucked up moustache...
You know, I'd bet he'd be a hell of a lot cooler if he could just kick
back and have a beer...but I doubt he'll get the chance for a long long
time.
I disagree personally on several issues...but I don't dislike him, worst
than some, better than most...we are no longer in an era of God-kings and
exalted rulers....just men.
omething I have to bring up though, I was watching the news...and heard
that in my dear old home of California, some assholes up and vandalized a
wall of american flags.
What the fuck did the American flag do to those people aside from
symbolizing all the good stuff about this place? Sons of bitches...if I
ever caught someone flag burning, I serously would have them reconsider
those actions...it's fucking uncool.
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