Sheesh, I leave for 3 days and look what I come back to. The whole site is
littered with trolling and troll feeding. So much shmeng in fact, that
parts of the site broke. That attention whore article was spewing errors
at me this morning, so rather than try and fix it, I just deleted it. It's
gonna take me a while to clean up the mess in the galleries and elsewhere.
Any further shmooth trolling or troll feeding outside of this forum topic
will be deleted regardless of what it says.
____________________ So Sayeth Me
callei
Extreme Fanatic
Posts: 759 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 15/3/2004 at 09:17 AM
mono, thanks for reminding me of my job. plagerism is uncool, it is a
banbable offense.
I hearby call an end to the blood orgy. any futher posts will result in
ridicule.
[Edited on 3/15/2004 by callei]
____________________ Real goths wear silver and crosses to keep the werewolves and vampires
away.
Monolycus
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Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 15/3/2004 at 06:21 AM
I've been staying out of this playground one-upmanship, but it was brought
to my attention that I've been quoted outside of context and relevance. If
I have a defining characteristic, it is the ability to nurse a grudge
forever. I do not get over things. I'm giving you slack and requesting
that you do the same my way. Even if this were a great time, I would not
find it endearing. If you paint yourself into a corner with me now, we
will not have anything but animosity for one another. Permanently. There
is no "I was only kidding", "I was going through a tweek", or "it's my
character". You are setting the tone for all of our future interactions.
~M.
LadyCygnet
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Posts: 287 Registered: 31/10/2003 Status: Offline
posted on 15/3/2004 at 02:48 AM
Schizo, I do believe you are the most darling and compassionate soul I've
yet to encounter on this site. Bless you for trying to bridge the gap
between Shmooth and those of us who would prefer that he temper his wods
with an editing tool.
Shmooth, I am sorry that sex wit ha pretty girl was the best metaphor you
could create for looking for acceptance on this site. Acceptance takes
TIME, and whining about it won't help you one bit, and will decrease the
truth within your posts with every whimper you type.
Remember, patience is a virtue. Take your time. No one's going to put you
through a meat grinder for stopping to think. But just posting in a stream
of consciousness is not fair to members who have a limited time to visit
the site. If you must type in a stream of thought, it is best to do so in
a separate word processing program, so that you can look over your thoughts
and post sans bombast.
We were all new once, and some of us are newer than others. With very few
exceptsions, everyone has to undergo a trial by fire before Karma reaches
equilibrium. The point is to be patient, and work through Karma to become
an asset to the community. We all struggle with it, perhaps not as
vocally, but we do struggle. In time, you may discover that Karma is an
excellent teacher.
Best of luck to you, Shmooth, in spite of your previous posts. I'm sorry
if you were hoping for more vitriol, but I don't like to be unkind to
anyone, if I can help it. Even my flames are red rather than blue, because
it's a shame to vaporize people who have potential.
____________________ "To Live is to Annoy." -- Rev. Lambert Reilly, Archabbot, St. Meinrad Abbey
Shmooth: after listening to that last post... I will say only this... you
say you do not have a superiority complex... then I feel it necessary to
point out her commentary on perceptions...
The universe is nothing more than a collection of personal perceptions.
regardless of whether or not you have a superiority complex. you come
across as having one. a re-examination of your choice of words is seriously
in order. The combination of words you choose give the impression that you
feel that all others are beneath you, that all others are scum, that all
others are mental midgets compared to you and that everything anyone else
says is a joke. Justification does not work. No matter what your reasoning
for this voice and implied attitude, telling the community at large to just
deal with it does not work. When you wish to be a part of a community, you
must adjust your mode of communication to even begin to be accepted.
Now, before today I disbelieved your sincerity in its entirety. Today, I
give you a chance to prove it. That is more than I have been willing to do
with anyone. Take it for what it is worth.
Feralucce
____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
Psychopixi
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Posts: 376 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 14/3/2004 at 06:05 PM
I liked the beautiful girl metaphor.
____________________ Do not fear death so much, but rather the inadequate life.
Schizo
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Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 14/3/2004 at 02:40 PM
See, I KNEW you weren't really a troll!
You confidently made some comments that would have gone over great in
person, and it didn't end up working in a post. People misunderstood, and
all your explanations just ended up sounding like the nonsense a troll
would post, and inadvertantly confirmed everyone's poor opinions, even
though they (your posts, not the opinions) were entirely true.
Now you're stuck with a label, and you aren't sure what to do about it.
You don't want to apologize for something you didn't do, and you don't
think anyone would listen anyway.
You've probably managed to chalk up some bad karma, which just makes it
harder.
Here's my unsolicited advice: you've established a reputation for an
immature, arrogant troll. If you want to shake this rep, you'll need to
avoid (at least temporarily) those behaviors that triggered the
misunderstanding. Not saying to change who you are, just to lay low for a
bit on that sort of stuff. I think you can figure out what stuff is
dangerous right now. Instead, post stuff like you have in other forums.
You can be a very sympathetic, gentle person. Show that side. Show
yourself willing to listen and learn. I know you are, but a lot of people
can't see that now. If you feel the need for a little irreverance, hit me
with it, or anyone here that you know can take it the right way.
Eventually, people will realize you aren't really a troll; they'll have a
more rounded idea of your personality, and you'll be more and more able to
push your limits.
If you really want a second chance with that beautiful, special girl, this
is probably your best bet.
And probably it's best to let this forum die. Put it out of your misery.
____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
pleonasm
Occasional Poster
Posts: 11 Registered: 1/3/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 14/3/2004 at 02:17 PM
Schizo, I think your delineation of this whole situation was flawless.
:-}
Shmooth, why don't you just try moving on? Maybe a change in topic would
change people's opinions of you. No hard feelings?
I take it I appeal to your motherly instincts? hahaha
Ok. Let me say again,how right you are.
You're trying to figure me out? Hey,Im trying to figure me out too.
I've always been me, so I guess I've never had too "figure myself out". I
guess doing that is something I need to do in order to convey myself
accurately to other people in terms of charisma.
You're right.When you dont get the essential charisma across..you just end
up with:
-you people are just too sensitive and cant handle my humour.
--no,you're just abrasive and insulting,and you keep repeating yourself.
-I keep repeating myself because you people just dont get it,and Im
desperately trying to convey that to yall.
--No,you're just abrasive and insulting.
-That's just because yall dont get it.
--There's no "it"!
-Yes, there is.
--No,there's not.
-Yes,there is!
--No,there's not!
-No,really,there is!
--No,really,there's not!
-Yes,there is! Listen..
Blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla.So there is. Do you
get it?
--No,there isnt. *partial quote*..just abrasive and insulting..*partial
quote*..just abrasive and insulting.
-You didnt even comprehend what I wrote!!
--You are just incoherent!
-No! It was intended! Damnit! NOW..You still just dont get it! Check it..
Blablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla/new
input/blablablablablab/new input/blablablablablabla!
--You are incoherent and repetative!
-*You've already said that!Who's more repetative!?* Look..
bladeriblabladeblabla/new input/blablablablablablabla etc etc etc..
OK!?
--I didnt even read half of what you said.And Im too exhausted to adress
anything that could further this discussion,that you did adress.
-*if you're not gonna read it,then shut up!* Fuck it then!
Look,Im a nice guy!Honestly!
Blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablalblabla..Do you see??!?!
--*yawn*..You're boring me. Since you're a troll,bring on the insults and
do what you do until we make you tired and show you that there's no place
for you here. And stop with your long drawn out explanations.And stop
repeating yourself.You're boring me.
-Im not trying to be a troll! Im not a troll!
--Ok.So you're abrasive and insulting,yet you claim you're not a troll. *If
it smells like a troll,and walks like a troll,it's a troll.*
-But it's humour! Im only kidding!
--Very funny.
-But Im only being frank!Im only kidding! blablablablablablablablabla..
--Words reflect actions kiddo. You're a troll.
-Im not! But you just want me to be a troll,so you just dont read me. *I am
whatever you say I am*
--Oh,so you're an eminem fan..how typical.
-No,not really..why?
--*yawn* You're boring me. --one liner-- You just take pleasure in getting
the better of people.
etc
etc
etc .
Schizo, I want to thank you for your offered invitation to explain.I havent
received one previously.Really,I havent.
You're really laying it up for me.
Schizo ,so you're saying Im not the usual troll. Yet I mustsnt think that
I've done something extraordinary in terms of getting people going.
No,Schizo. But I was about to, before everybody started their "starve and
exhaust the troll" routine.
The attitude that you misunderstand in the humour section,is my pride and
confidence I have from making people laugh.
It's the confidence and pride I have from being able to say and do things
that even worldfamous comedians dont do,and still make people laugh.
In person I can do the verbal equivalent of farting in someones face, and
still make them laugh.
Tell me what other comedian can do that!?
How many prophets could walk on water? Jesus could.
Tell me how many prophets could do that?!
See where Im going? Im not saying Im Jesus. Im not a prophet. Im a
comedian. But in a different way, it's still doing what cannot be done.
Knowing that, that's why I hold my head the way I do.
Yet here on this site,I guess I havent made anybody laugh at anything by
manifesting something on them.
Rather I've made people feel like I enjoy pulling somebodys pants down,and
then laughing.
..
Ok Schiz.. As you've understood it..I have a big ego. And you're telling me
to not get a superiority complex.
See,that's where I have something to say. That's what's so wonderful about
me. Because I DONT get a superiority complex. (starting this out with
saying that there's something wonderful about me,might make you think that
Im high on myself or lost n trippin,but Im not).
My way of being cocky,is very unique. If you knew me in person,you'd
understand that. My cockyness comes from inside!
Reading my words,people get the picture that I have the attitude that says
I am better than everybody else.
Fact is,I really enjoy being cocky..towards those that understand that I
REALLY DONT think Im above everybody else.
I think Im better AT most things than most people.I DONT think Im better
THAN people.
Believe it or not..I am actually REALLY fucking HUMBLE at heart. (Since you
think Im more intelligent than most people,could you just try to trust me
on this one?)
Perhaps I will succeed in explaining this. Though I doubt anyone will read
it but you.
I figure in person I charismaticly convey that I do not take pleasure in
putting people down.So "knowing" that,they just laugh at what ever I say
because they feel like they know me.
Because people laugh their asses off around me. I mean really..spasmic
laughter. I guess I somehow in person make them feel like they can
distance themselves from any negativety.
Understand that people do not start out giving me opposition. So it works.
I guess in person I have some kind of smooth approach that Im not
consciously aware of.
You know? Talent. (oh forgive me for talking good about myself.Im just
trying to tell you why I figure it works!! ok? Im not trying to say "Im so
cool Im so cool Im so cool".)
People,I wouldnt do this if I didnt know it works for me in person!
Arrogant people that think they're better than everybody else arent
successfull. Why would I do it if I didnt succeed?
Developing a superiority complex isnt beneficial! It would stop me from
being able to do what I can do.
If I had a superiority complex,people would sense it in person.And they
wouldnt laugh.They'd get offended.
It's not like I walk around reading disclaimers before I "insult" people.
:-D
"So, let me try to reword. You find humor in things that are out of place
in life, in other words "inappropriate".
You really don't care whether others find it equally amusing, or if they
get offended, because you enjoy both reactions.
But you are kind of disappointed that the offended parties weren't more
creative and thoughtful in their replies."
No. I am disappointed that people instantly took me for a troll and got
offended,and then went on my ass like maggots on a corps.
And then,if I play ball,Im a selfconfessed troll.
And if I dont play ball,and try to explain myself (though I realise I
havent given much thought to what I was trying to explain.But it's hard to
explain what you convey through persona)
then Im an unsuccessfull troll that just doesnt succeed in being
trollish.
"It may help for you to realize that many of the people who lightly
dismissed you are exhausted."
Yeah,most likely too exhausted to read this.
"Long explanations of your intentions really aren't good flamebait, anyway,
and depart from the inappropriateness that you started with."
The reason my long explanations arent good flamebait, is BECAUSE THEY ARENT
FLAMEBAIT. Believe it!!
"I really think most people here are not irritated enough with you anymore
to invest the time to read a longish post.
Like I've said, people have some big things to deal with around here"
Because I dont want to irritate people! Believe it!!
I too have big things to deal with,and better things to do than to irritate
people.
I know people here are funny,and intelligent,and very far from being
sticks-in-the-mud who can't take a little irreverant humor or a joke at
their own expense.
I know that!! DUH! Why do you think Im here?? You dont see my motives.
But you are beginning to better understand me.
"If people are pissed at you, I think it's mostly because you seem to think
you've done something special and out of the ordinary".
No,they think I think so. This is what I mean with my misunderstood
attitude.
Metaphor:
If a guy has been with many beautiful women, when he walks up to a
beautiful girl to talk to her,he has the attitude of knowing he has been
with many beautiful women.
When he walks up to this beautiful girl, he knows that he can take "risks"
and do things to try to bond with her quickly.
And his attitude sends the message that he's not really worried about doing
anything "wrong",so that if she rejects him during his strong yet
intelligent advances,he's not worried
because he knows there is another beautiful girl around the corner that
wont reject his advances that are tailored by his womanising attitude.
However during his advances,he finds out that this is no ordinary average
beautiful girl..And he realises she is a special girl.
Though she rejects him because she misunderstands his attitude,thinking
that he thinks he can have his way with her only because he can have his
way with every other beautiful girl,and that he thinks she is just for him
to use,and that in a way he thinks he is better than her.
He realises that his advances are a gamble,and he's usually not afraid to
lose,because he knows he wins waayyy more often than he loses.
But now that he sees how special this girl is, he really wants her.She has
rejected him, and he wishes he would have left his womanising attitude at
home.
But now he has "made his bed",and now he is lying in it.
She has misinterpreted his attitude and therefor misunderstands his
advances.
She rejects one of his initial advances, yet he clinged to his womanising
carefree attitude of not really worrying about how he comes across to her,
because he hadnt yet realised just how special this girl is.
And by the time he does realise she is special, it's too late. And an
observer gets the feeling that he will never be popular in her mind.
But having been with so many women,that his womanising attitude has become
such a part of him, he still doesnt diffuse his attitude; which makes him
look arrogant.
So he starts with his drawnout explanations.But he isnt really explaining
anything,because he doesnt realise that what he needs to explain is his
attitude.
This community is that one beautiful girl.
That one beautiful special girl, that rejected him,because she is special,
and misinterpreted his attitude.
And that attitude is my pride and experience from making people laugh.
You can get the feeling it was that guys choice to be the way he is. But
he was just being the profiting result of his experience. What pays.
What works, works. And "in 5 years", what works is still gonna work, with
most beautiful girls, but not with that girl.
He never knew he would come across a special girl like that.So can you
blame him for not having a preset approach that would fit that girl?
Can you really? How was he to know...? Was he miscommunticating his
personality?
Sometimes you dont know how to communicate your personality to something
special,until you realise something is special.
And by the time you do, you're lying in your bed.
Too bad that beautiful girl isnt in that bed with him.
____________________ Jameel
Schizo
Extreme Fanatic
Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 14/3/2004 at 06:33 AM
Hey Shmooth! Ixnay on the leepingsay ogethertay, but I guess thanks for
the social worker bit. I'm a mom. It's my job to try to understand the
enigmatic and slightly irritating. All the more because I used to be more
than slightly irritating at your age, and look what 10 years and a few
understanding people have done for me!
I do want to try to break down your motivations and purposes for this whole
mess. To try and figure out what you ARE doing, because I really don't
think you're just a common or garden variety of troll. Maybe an uncommon
troll, but definitely not our usual variety.
So, let me try to reword. You find humor in things that are out of place
in life, in other words "inappropriate". You really don't care whether
others find it equally amusing, or if they get offended, because you enjoy
both reactions. But you are kind of disappointed that the offended parties
weren't more creative and thoughtful in their replies.
It may help for you to realize that many of the people who lightly
dismissed you are exhausted. You wanted a dramatic flame, but they are
just too tired to put on the real fireworks. A lot of them have some major
things to deal with in their real lives, not to mention that trolls and
people who get mistaken for trolls are a dime a dozen around here, and
replying to them all with full attention gets very tiring and redundant.
And time-consuming. Most of them at this point have nothing left but a
"you're stupid and annoying" to give before they go off to the next Toy
Dolls episode or whatever they came here to see. I know it's
disappointing, and I like to read a good flame as well as the next, but
it's really not their job to put out for your enjoyment if they don't feel
up to it. But believe me, Feral and the rest DO possess the talent and
abilites to produce a royal flame when they're in the mood.
Long explanations of your intentions really aren't good flamebait, anyway,
and depart from the inappropriateness that you started with. And
repetitious statements will generally produce repetitious replies. So if
you want a decent flame, produce some good fuel, and you will again get the
positive and negative reactions you enjoy.
I really think most people here are not irritated enough with you anymore
to invest the time to read a longish post. Like I've said, people have
some big things to deal with around here, and I'm afraid going through
several paragraphs of explanations is fairly low on their lists of
priorities.
Personally, I think it might have been wiser for people to leave well
enough alone if they weren't interested enough to read the posts, but
people sometimes do silly things.
I hope I'm starting to understand you better.
But please, PLEASE don't start thinking you have one up on anyone here when
it comes to humor, or comprehension, or anything else. I will say, that's
the one point where you really start to kind of irritate me. I've known
most of these people for a matter of years, and they are among the most
intelligent, funniest people I have ever met, and very far from being
sticks-in-the-mud who can't take a little irreverant humor or a joke at
their own expense. To be perfectly honest, I understand what you are
doing, I see your motives, and what you have done has been done better by
others. If people are pissed at you, I think it's mostly because you seem
to think you've done something special and out of the ordinary. I'm not
pissed, personally, because it really doesn't matter to me. I have a
pretty thick skin. Irreverant humor is a big thing here, and you should
read some of Dolorosa and Ironboots and IAmSquid's earlier forum posts if
you don't think so. And certainly no one cares about what is "appropriate"
here, at least under societies standards. We all push the envelope to a
phenomenal degree, and not just in what we say. I'm talking about living
our lives "frankly and honestly", regardless of what others decree as
appropriate, and we haven't just gotten flamed in some internet forum, some
of us have had our lives threatened by real, face-to-face people. So it
makes it difficult for us to figure out if your posts are more ridiculous
or infuriating. But they certainly are uninformed.
God, Shmooth, I LIKE you, mostly. Do your shtick, if you want. But
please, PLEASE don't get some superiority complex going. You are
intelligent, yes. Probably more so than most of the people around you. I
understand. But, forgive me for saying this, you are young. 17, right? I
think you said that somewhere. You may be intelligent, but you lack
maturity. No fault of your own, you can't help the year you were born.
But it helps to be aware of this fact, and that others, who equal you in
intelligence, may also exceed you in experience, and while you may have a
little to teach us, we probably have a whole lot more to teach you. Part
of growing up is learning that you don't know half as much as you think you
do. But still knowing that you know what you know. If you can follow that
- excuse my lack of clarity!
If you find being misunderstood funny, fine. But if you're pissing people
off for your own amusement, please don't expect them to go out of their way
for you. I have a feeling you will never be popular on this site. I have
a feeling that was your choice. You've made your bed, and you're lying in
it. If it satisfies your sense of humor, great. But I feel that you're
missing out on a lot this place could offer you if you had chosen a
different way. There's a million sites on the internet where you could
irritate people, but I've never come across another place like Shmeng with
the sort of people we have here. If you make friends here, you have
friends for life. Real friends, not just people who say nice things to
you. Yes, there has been some bickering and moderator shit and stuff like
that. Shit happens and things get out of hand. I really don't see the
problem with favoritism here, however, since the "favorites" generally
earned their positions by being intelligent, open, interesting, and playing
fair. And if someone's not a favorite, it's either because they've been
dumb, closeminded, boring, or shmengy, or else they just haven't opened up
enough to be discovered.
I'm sorry that I came across as thinking you should not be you. You are
who you are, and you should not try to be someone else just to be accepted.
But on the other hand, who you are can be developed and formed. You are
not exactly what you were 5 years ago, and 5 years from now you will find
you have changed still more. You should value yourself the way you are,
but also understand that you are not necessarily equally valuable to those
around you. Others can help you figure out how to remain true to yourself
without repulsing those who could have been of great benefit to you. For
example, you have had a bit of a laugh at other people's expense, but also
at the expense of gaining some valuable and wise friends. Perhaps you
think they are a little oversensitive. Perhaps they are. Perhaps they
have reason to be.
However, no one can help anyone develop in a direction they do not want to
go. You cannot make anyone respond to you the way you want, and they
cannot make you respond to them either. Be what you will. But if you want
help or an outside opinion or anything, believe it or not, we can be of
service. Oh well. I suppose it doesn't matter.
I don't see where you think Shmeng represses the intuitive mind. Read some
of Devin's articles about vibe. Generally, we take the view that it takes
intellect and vibe together to be a truly stellar example of humanity. But
vibe without reason can be intensely dangerous, both to the possesor of
said reasonless vibe, and to the people around them. People without reason
make us want to duck our heads and hide, while people without vibe make us
want to walk away and yawn.
I think that part of your problem here is what you said at the end of your
post. You may be very charismatic in person, and thus succeed in your type
of fun. But somehow the charisma didn't communicate itself in your posts.
So it's not so much that we want you to change yourself, just the way you
communicate yourself. Take a hint that you haven't expressed your
intention properly, not that we have any particular problem in accepting
your intentions. Maybe you can find a way to bring that charisma through.
Two people can say essentially the same thing with the same intentions, and
one will be laughed at and one will be flamed. Why? Because one succeeded
in communicating his personality in his post, and the other didn't.
If I had just read the Attention Whoring posts, I would never have given
you a second glance. My hint of hidden worth came entirely from the posts
in other forums. I never got a chance to see the article, so I can't judge
on that.
I think you realize that I am really trying to figure you out, so maybe
you'll take a little advice from me. Your other posts I think express a
more rounded view of your personality, without losing that irreverant
quality. If you want people to take you for who you are, make sure you are
communicating who you are. If intelligent people are misunderstanding your
personality, it may be because you are miscommunicating your personality.
Just a hint.
____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
Shmooth
Member
Posts: 76 Registered: 23/1/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 14/3/2004 at 06:26 AM
Squire.Clench up your asshole. And keep your bitchmouth closed.
Dont fart and say "that was me".
Try to contribute instead,you egodriven insecure queerdo.
____________________ Jameel
Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic
Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
posted on 14/3/2004 at 12:26 AM
That was me.
____________________ “The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a buzzard.
Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat
anything.”
Faulkner
pleonasm
Occasional Poster
Posts: 11 Registered: 1/3/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 13/3/2004 at 06:00 PM
You bring up a good point Shmooth, What DO I care. Not enough to continue,
and enough to try and find something pertenant in your posts to talk about.
So I didn't talk about it.
actually shmooth... it was.. incoherent... unintelligible... and just
irrelevant... and as usual... unwanted...
BORING
____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
Shmooth
Member
Posts: 76 Registered: 23/1/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 13/3/2004 at 01:50 PM
No Squire.Actually it wasnt.
But hey .. what do you care. Obviously not enough to notice.
____________________ Jameel
Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic
Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
posted on 13/3/2004 at 11:28 AM
Eh, same old, same old. This is getting boring.
____________________ “The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a buzzard.
Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat
anything.”
Faulkner
Shmooth
Member
Posts: 76 Registered: 23/1/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 13/3/2004 at 06:11 AM
Schizo , You should be a social worker!
If you didnt kinda speak on my part because you want to sleep with me or
something.. That was very cool of you.
By the way..Congratulations on getting married!
I see there is good talk about the shmooth. That's not good.
Fortunately,I've planned for such emergencies.
"Now, I realize that there was an article that was deleted due to the fact
that it was breaking down the website.
Was that where the trolling began?"
I was never told it was deleted because it was breaking down the
website.
I was told it was deleted because it was "train wretch writing". Which is
ok. I understand.
However, it had content. So if I could have been given the opportunity to
edit it,I would have been glad to,since it had been found so out of
place.
MANY of my writings have been deleted. Even those that were relatively
proper.
But hey.. I guess anything I write "breaks down the site"..
Schizo. What you are doing right, is trying to break it down.
Perhaps,because you,unlike everybody else,dont have your ego stopping
you.
Thus, I will confide in you what you pinpoint.
"But if I've read Shmooth at all,
it is very hard for him to back down and admit that the error was his in
failing to make his un-seriousness clear,
instead he laid the blame on the offended parties for lacking a sense of
humor.
Thus demonstrating some very trollish behavior, completely
inadvertantly."
It is my opinion, that when truth and frankness is always put
into places where people see it as out of context, it triggers humour.
If not on their part, on my part.
So if they laugh at what I said,or if they laugh at me for saying it,or
both, is all cool. OR,they dont laugh at all,because they cant digest
uncivilized humour.
I think everything is in context, if you're reading it in the right
context.
What bothers me is how people cannot respond to me in the same manner I
respond to them.
If you're gonna dog me,have some insight and put some brains into it.
All people here seem to know as a response (with some exceptions like
LadyCygnet.Atleast she tries sometimes) is to tell me straight up that Im a
rotten person or whatever.
Most people,are just no fucking fun.
Also,I am sick of hearing complaints about "long posts". Does it actually
take so fucking long for most people to read???
If you read 300 w.p.m I can see why it's hard for some to read what I
write.
Others just tell me they havent read what I've written,so that they can let
go of the feeling of wanting to respond to things I've said.
Because after all, you do care about what impression you give me (though
some of you try to act like you dont).
I read photographicly and via thought stream. It's not like I actually talk
as much as I write.
I write by thought stream, so I just keep pumping it out.
You're not supposed to read what I write like some fucking storybook. And I
dont expect you to. (You're not supposed to read for like 20 minutes).
So the lines dont have to be perfect. And the spaces are intended (most of
the time, besides the trouble with copying and pasting between editing
programs).
So get off my back about it.
It's not that I dont have respect for those that havent learnt to
comprehend the way I do. But come'on..
When I actually do comedy,I do it with my mouth.
Hey..if it helps anybody..add me on msn,and I'll send you some ebooks about
reading and comprehension n shit. Zero, u interested?
People here are used to humour in context.
Where it is clear that "it is humour".
I however, make it a point to leave this to the curious mind.
Then again,when there is confusion, there is nothing as humourous,and
disturbing to the knowing observer,
as civilized people subjected to uncivilized humour.
I dont like audience members going "good one!" *and clapping their hands*
.
I believe violent results of humour(crazy laughter),and confusion, are very
close together.They are very closely accosiated.
Even sometimes when they dont laugh, I know why.
What is even more humourous, is the illusion of unwillingness to still any
erupted confusion.
Thus, without backing down from things said by calling them "failures",and
apparently "stubbornly" proclaiming them as jokes, still claiming it's
humour.
I dont enjoy wounding egos.I DONT!! So Im holding back.
However, I enjoy promoting and cultivating ways to seemingly take blows to
the ego,without getting hurt.
Because that's what people cant do.
"admit that the error was his in failing to make his un-seriousness clear"
.
Extreme frankness is often perceived as serious, my dear. Im not being
"un-serious". Im not being "serious" either.
But it is just that. Frankness. An honest presentation.
If something honestly perceived is abrasive with style, then it's funny.
:-D Period.
" REPLY TO "FUCK OFF" ARTICLE-----I have checked the site nearly every day
since I became a member... almost pathologically.
I have seen "moderator battles", I have seen favoritism, I have seen
cliques, I have seen good advice, I have seen bad advice,
I have seen fire and I have seen rain. Although "teasing" has always been
part and parcel of the content here (at least as long as I have been here),
the general tone has gotten more and more below-the-belt and less and less
amusing. The roasts were a fine idea, and I liked what people were doing
there,
but I didn't feel close enough to anyone to participate very much. I
finally broke down and threw caution to the wind and jumped in...
immediately before they died out. As usual.Happenstance, but it is a
happenstance that always seems to happen where I am concerned. ---Monolycus
"
It's not that I mean to kick anybody under the belt.
It's that I intend to lower their belts to the ground, and then kick them.
Repeatedly. Again,and again. :-)
Because when I walked in, people had their belts well over their heads.
"The thing is, from reading his forum posts (not here, but earlier
ones),
he actually has some decent things to say. If encouraged to drop the
abrasive funny-man attitude,
and brought out and developed when he produces something interesting in
itself,
he may turn out a lot better than most people seem to give him credit
for."
If Im encouraged to stop being me?!! :-D
Let me explain something. It's not a difference in attitude from when Im
saying "something decent",
and being frank. I am always frank; I ALWAYS give an honest presentation
of something perceived.
It's whether what I say comes across as abrasive or not,that makes the
difference in your eyes.
The abrasive funny-man is not a separate personality.
I say whatever is on my mind.
I've also noticed that some people are just outright afraid of me.
Afraid to tell me something or even utter a word my way because they think
that I'm just here to make fun of people and stomp on egos.
Im not!
But..
A little hint for people: If you have your belt above your waist line, I
can sense it. And I will kick you.
Meranda:
"And to risk looking like I'm jumping on the bandwagon, I agree... Schitz
is a saint. But Schitzo, I too thought the boy had merit at first. I'm not
sure he knows to listen to reason at this point in his development yet,
though."
ah Meranda,Meranda,Meranda.. I find it sad that shmeng is a place where you
only reward the rational mind ,and suppress the intuitive mind.
*grieves*
"1) he generated a lot of traffic on the site. he can get people stirred
up, now, if only he could do it in a good way or for a good reason.
2) He can put a decent sentence together when he isn't babbling
incoherently. If he drops the stupid frat-boy attitude, we might see a bit
of intelligence from him.
*gospel choir singing "He's got the whole world, in his hands!" *
Hey,lowering belts is a good reason.
Honestly,I really like people here. But some people could be more easy
going.
Feral, you need anger management. *lol*
How many people have you eat today?
"He seems very young".
Yes,I am very childlike. I think the biggest challenge in life,is living
life,yet remaining childlike.
I live my life as though I know nothing.
I said "childlike",not "childish".
I've been through a lot,yet Im childlike. I take great pride in trying to
be childlike.
When I have the time.. sometimes I put on songs like "erotic city"-by
prince ,and dance around the house all day.
*lol* Listen to the song,and you'll get the picture. That's the kind of
person I am.
But yeah,Im abrasive as well.. But not in a way that should ever be taken
seriously.
I guess part of what makes people laugh..is when they see me in person..and
my charisma tells them Im a good person.
Yet I say abrasive things,which isnt what they expect.
Also..you people should know..That I have been stressed out over people
taking true offence.
I can inform you that being stressed out led to waking up one morning with
a pimple in my ear, and one on my ass.
Yeah, that's karma for ya.
Now ,I have to catch up on all the exercise I've been missing.
____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
BlueLinn
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Posts: 246 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 8/3/2004 at 07:23 AM
:sigh: :shakes head: :walks away:
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Zero
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Posts: 459 Registered: 15/2/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 5/3/2004 at 10:56 AM
I've read a lot of his posts too and it does seem that outside this forum
that he's mostly a decent guy which is why I wish that he would just stop
pretending to be a jerk.
Shizo: thanks for explaining his post....I wish i had someone around to
explain to me all the incoherent babble that goes on around me at all times
(my own personal translator.....maybe I'll get one for X-mas)
All joking aside I beleive he's a good person...then agian i'm very naive.
____________________ "It is a fool's prerogative to utter truths that no one else will speak." ~
The Sandman, Dream Country