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Author: Subject: Attention Whoring

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  posted on 16/2/2004 at 09:59 AM
Sheesh, I leave for 3 days and look what I come back to. The whole site is littered with trolling and troll feeding. So much shmeng in fact, that parts of the site broke. That attention whore article was spewing errors at me this morning, so rather than try and fix it, I just deleted it. It's gonna take me a while to clean up the mess in the galleries and elsewhere. Any further shmooth trolling or troll feeding outside of this forum topic will be deleted regardless of what it says.

 

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  posted on 15/3/2004 at 09:17 AM
mono, thanks for reminding me of my job. plagerism is uncool, it is a banbable offense.

I hearby call an end to the blood orgy. any futher posts will result in ridicule.

[Edited on 3/15/2004 by callei]

 

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  posted on 15/3/2004 at 06:21 AM
I've been staying out of this playground one-upmanship, but it was brought to my attention that I've been quoted outside of context and relevance. If I have a defining characteristic, it is the ability to nurse a grudge forever. I do not get over things. I'm giving you slack and requesting that you do the same my way. Even if this were a great time, I would not find it endearing. If you paint yourself into a corner with me now, we will not have anything but animosity for one another. Permanently. There is no "I was only kidding", "I was going through a tweek", or "it's my character". You are setting the tone for all of our future interactions.

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  posted on 15/3/2004 at 02:48 AM
Schizo, I do believe you are the most darling and compassionate soul I've yet to encounter on this site. Bless you for trying to bridge the gap between Shmooth and those of us who would prefer that he temper his wods with an editing tool.

Shmooth, I am sorry that sex wit ha pretty girl was the best metaphor you could create for looking for acceptance on this site. Acceptance takes TIME, and whining about it won't help you one bit, and will decrease the truth within your posts with every whimper you type.

Remember, patience is a virtue. Take your time. No one's going to put you through a meat grinder for stopping to think. But just posting in a stream of consciousness is not fair to members who have a limited time to visit the site. If you must type in a stream of thought, it is best to do so in a separate word processing program, so that you can look over your thoughts and post sans bombast.

We were all new once, and some of us are newer than others. With very few exceptsions, everyone has to undergo a trial by fire before Karma reaches equilibrium. The point is to be patient, and work through Karma to become an asset to the community. We all struggle with it, perhaps not as vocally, but we do struggle. In time, you may discover that Karma is an excellent teacher.

Best of luck to you, Shmooth, in spite of your previous posts. I'm sorry if you were hoping for more vitriol, but I don't like to be unkind to anyone, if I can help it. Even my flames are red rather than blue, because it's a shame to vaporize people who have potential.

 

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 06:54 PM
Shmooth: after listening to that last post... I will say only this... you say you do not have a superiority complex... then I feel it necessary to point out her commentary on perceptions...

The universe is nothing more than a collection of personal perceptions. regardless of whether or not you have a superiority complex. you come across as having one. a re-examination of your choice of words is seriously in order. The combination of words you choose give the impression that you feel that all others are beneath you, that all others are scum, that all others are mental midgets compared to you and that everything anyone else says is a joke. Justification does not work. No matter what your reasoning for this voice and implied attitude, telling the community at large to just deal with it does not work. When you wish to be a part of a community, you must adjust your mode of communication to even begin to be accepted.

Now, before today I disbelieved your sincerity in its entirety. Today, I give you a chance to prove it. That is more than I have been willing to do with anyone. Take it for what it is worth.

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 06:05 PM
I liked the beautiful girl metaphor.

 

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 02:40 PM
See, I KNEW you weren't really a troll!

You confidently made some comments that would have gone over great in person, and it didn't end up working in a post. People misunderstood, and all your explanations just ended up sounding like the nonsense a troll would post, and inadvertantly confirmed everyone's poor opinions, even though they (your posts, not the opinions) were entirely true.

Now you're stuck with a label, and you aren't sure what to do about it. You don't want to apologize for something you didn't do, and you don't think anyone would listen anyway.

You've probably managed to chalk up some bad karma, which just makes it harder.

Here's my unsolicited advice: you've established a reputation for an immature, arrogant troll. If you want to shake this rep, you'll need to avoid (at least temporarily) those behaviors that triggered the misunderstanding. Not saying to change who you are, just to lay low for a bit on that sort of stuff. I think you can figure out what stuff is dangerous right now. Instead, post stuff like you have in other forums. You can be a very sympathetic, gentle person. Show that side. Show yourself willing to listen and learn. I know you are, but a lot of people can't see that now. If you feel the need for a little irreverance, hit me with it, or anyone here that you know can take it the right way. Eventually, people will realize you aren't really a troll; they'll have a more rounded idea of your personality, and you'll be more and more able to push your limits.

If you really want a second chance with that beautiful, special girl, this is probably your best bet.

And probably it's best to let this forum die. Put it out of your misery.

 

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 02:17 PM
Schizo, I think your delineation of this whole situation was flawless. :-}

Shmooth, why don't you just try moving on? Maybe a change in topic would change people's opinions of you. No hard feelings?

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 01:50 PM
wooow oowoow *Giddy smile* :-D *lol*

You're right...and you're right..and you're right........and you're right.

I take it I appeal to your motherly instincts? hahaha

Ok. Let me say again,how right you are.
You're trying to figure me out? Hey,Im trying to figure me out too.
I've always been me, so I guess I've never had too "figure myself out". I guess doing that is something I need to do in order to convey myself accurately to other people in terms of charisma.


You're right.When you dont get the essential charisma across..you just end up with:

-you people are just too sensitive and cant handle my humour.

--no,you're just abrasive and insulting,and you keep repeating yourself.

-I keep repeating myself because you people just dont get it,and Im desperately trying to convey that to yall.

--No,you're just abrasive and insulting.

-That's just because yall dont get it.

--There's no "it"!

-Yes, there is.

--No,there's not.

-Yes,there is!

--No,there's not!

-No,really,there is!

--No,really,there's not!

-Yes,there is! Listen.. Blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla.So there is. Do you get it?

--No,there isnt. *partial quote*..just abrasive and insulting..*partial quote*..just abrasive and insulting.

-You didnt even comprehend what I wrote!!

--You are just incoherent!

-No! It was intended! Damnit! NOW..You still just dont get it! Check it.. Blablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla/new input/blablablablablab/new input/blablablablablabla!

--You are incoherent and repetative!

-*You've already said that!Who's more repetative!?* Look.. bladeriblabladeblabla/new input/blablablablablablabla etc etc etc.. OK!?

--I didnt even read half of what you said.And Im too exhausted to adress anything that could further this discussion,that you did adress.

-*if you're not gonna read it,then shut up!* Fuck it then!
Look,Im a nice guy!Honestly!
Blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablalblabla..Do you see??!?!

--*yawn*..You're boring me. Since you're a troll,bring on the insults and do what you do until we make you tired and show you that there's no place for you here. And stop with your long drawn out explanations.And stop repeating yourself.You're boring me.

-Im not trying to be a troll! Im not a troll!

--Ok.So you're abrasive and insulting,yet you claim you're not a troll. *If it smells like a troll,and walks like a troll,it's a troll.*

-But it's humour! Im only kidding!

--Very funny.

-But Im only being frank!Im only kidding! blablablablablablablablabla..

--Words reflect actions kiddo. You're a troll.

-Im not! But you just want me to be a troll,so you just dont read me. *I am whatever you say I am*

--Oh,so you're an eminem fan..how typical.

-No,not really..why?

--*yawn* You're boring me. --one liner-- You just take pleasure in getting the better of people.

etc

etc

etc .

Schizo, I want to thank you for your offered invitation to explain.I havent received one previously.Really,I havent.
You're really laying it up for me.

Schizo ,so you're saying Im not the usual troll. Yet I mustsnt think that I've done something extraordinary in terms of getting people going.
No,Schizo. But I was about to, before everybody started their "starve and exhaust the troll" routine.

The attitude that you misunderstand in the humour section,is my pride and confidence I have from making people laugh.
It's the confidence and pride I have from being able to say and do things that even worldfamous comedians dont do,and still make people laugh.
In person I can do the verbal equivalent of farting in someones face, and still make them laugh.
Tell me what other comedian can do that!?

How many prophets could walk on water? Jesus could.
Tell me how many prophets could do that?!

See where Im going? Im not saying Im Jesus. Im not a prophet. Im a comedian. But in a different way, it's still doing what cannot be done.
Knowing that, that's why I hold my head the way I do.

Yet here on this site,I guess I havent made anybody laugh at anything by manifesting something on them.
Rather I've made people feel like I enjoy pulling somebodys pants down,and then laughing.


..

Ok Schiz.. As you've understood it..I have a big ego. And you're telling me to not get a superiority complex.
See,that's where I have something to say. That's what's so wonderful about me. Because I DONT get a superiority complex. (starting this out with saying that there's something wonderful about me,might make you think that Im high on myself or lost n trippin,but Im not).
My way of being cocky,is very unique. If you knew me in person,you'd understand that. My cockyness comes from inside!
Reading my words,people get the picture that I have the attitude that says I am better than everybody else.
Fact is,I really enjoy being cocky..towards those that understand that I REALLY DONT think Im above everybody else.
I think Im better AT most things than most people.I DONT think Im better THAN people.
Believe it or not..I am actually REALLY fucking HUMBLE at heart. (Since you think Im more intelligent than most people,could you just try to trust me on this one?)
Perhaps I will succeed in explaining this. Though I doubt anyone will read it but you.

I figure in person I charismaticly convey that I do not take pleasure in putting people down.So "knowing" that,they just laugh at what ever I say because they feel like they know me.
Because people laugh their asses off around me. I mean really..spasmic laughter. I guess I somehow in person make them feel like they can distance themselves from any negativety.
Understand that people do not start out giving me opposition. So it works. I guess in person I have some kind of smooth approach that Im not consciously aware of.
You know? Talent. (oh forgive me for talking good about myself.Im just trying to tell you why I figure it works!! ok? Im not trying to say "Im so cool Im so cool Im so cool".)
People,I wouldnt do this if I didnt know it works for me in person!
Arrogant people that think they're better than everybody else arent successfull. Why would I do it if I didnt succeed?
Developing a superiority complex isnt beneficial! It would stop me from being able to do what I can do.
If I had a superiority complex,people would sense it in person.And they wouldnt laugh.They'd get offended.
It's not like I walk around reading disclaimers before I "insult" people. :-D


"So, let me try to reword. You find humor in things that are out of place in life, in other words "inappropriate".
You really don't care whether others find it equally amusing, or if they get offended, because you enjoy both reactions.
But you are kind of disappointed that the offended parties weren't more creative and thoughtful in their replies."

No. I am disappointed that people instantly took me for a troll and got offended,and then went on my ass like maggots on a corps.
And then,if I play ball,Im a selfconfessed troll.
And if I dont play ball,and try to explain myself (though I realise I havent given much thought to what I was trying to explain.But it's hard to explain what you convey through persona)
then Im an unsuccessfull troll that just doesnt succeed in being trollish.

"It may help for you to realize that many of the people who lightly dismissed you are exhausted."
Yeah,most likely too exhausted to read this.

"Long explanations of your intentions really aren't good flamebait, anyway, and depart from the inappropriateness that you started with."
The reason my long explanations arent good flamebait, is BECAUSE THEY ARENT FLAMEBAIT. Believe it!!

"I really think most people here are not irritated enough with you anymore to invest the time to read a longish post.
Like I've said, people have some big things to deal with around here"

Because I dont want to irritate people! Believe it!!
I too have big things to deal with,and better things to do than to irritate people.

I know people here are funny,and intelligent,and very far from being sticks-in-the-mud who can't take a little irreverant humor or a joke at their own expense.
I know that!! DUH! Why do you think Im here?? You dont see my motives.
But you are beginning to better understand me.

"If people are pissed at you, I think it's mostly because you seem to think you've done something special and out of the ordinary".
No,they think I think so. This is what I mean with my misunderstood attitude.

Metaphor:
If a guy has been with many beautiful women, when he walks up to a beautiful girl to talk to her,he has the attitude of knowing he has been with many beautiful women.
When he walks up to this beautiful girl, he knows that he can take "risks" and do things to try to bond with her quickly.
And his attitude sends the message that he's not really worried about doing anything "wrong",so that if she rejects him during his strong yet intelligent advances,he's not worried
because he knows there is another beautiful girl around the corner that wont reject his advances that are tailored by his womanising attitude.
However during his advances,he finds out that this is no ordinary average beautiful girl..And he realises she is a special girl.
Though she rejects him because she misunderstands his attitude,thinking that he thinks he can have his way with her only because he can have his way with every other beautiful girl,and that he thinks she is just for him to use,and that in a way he thinks he is better than her.
He realises that his advances are a gamble,and he's usually not afraid to lose,because he knows he wins waayyy more often than he loses.
But now that he sees how special this girl is, he really wants her.She has rejected him, and he wishes he would have left his womanising attitude at home.
But now he has "made his bed",and now he is lying in it.
She has misinterpreted his attitude and therefor misunderstands his advances.

She rejects one of his initial advances, yet he clinged to his womanising carefree attitude of not really worrying about how he comes across to her, because he hadnt yet realised just how special this girl is.
And by the time he does realise she is special, it's too late. And an observer gets the feeling that he will never be popular in her mind.
But having been with so many women,that his womanising attitude has become such a part of him, he still doesnt diffuse his attitude; which makes him look arrogant.

So he starts with his drawnout explanations.But he isnt really explaining anything,because he doesnt realise that what he needs to explain is his attitude.


This community is that one beautiful girl.
That one beautiful special girl, that rejected him,because she is special, and misinterpreted his attitude.

And that attitude is my pride and experience from making people laugh.

You can get the feeling it was that guys choice to be the way he is. But he was just being the profiting result of his experience. What pays.
What works, works. And "in 5 years", what works is still gonna work, with most beautiful girls, but not with that girl.

He never knew he would come across a special girl like that.So can you blame him for not having a preset approach that would fit that girl?
Can you really? How was he to know...? Was he miscommunticating his personality?
Sometimes you dont know how to communicate your personality to something special,until you realise something is special.
And by the time you do, you're lying in your bed.
Too bad that beautiful girl isnt in that bed with him.

 

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 06:33 AM
Hey Shmooth! Ixnay on the leepingsay ogethertay, but I guess thanks for the social worker bit. I'm a mom. It's my job to try to understand the enigmatic and slightly irritating. All the more because I used to be more than slightly irritating at your age, and look what 10 years and a few understanding people have done for me!

I do want to try to break down your motivations and purposes for this whole mess. To try and figure out what you ARE doing, because I really don't think you're just a common or garden variety of troll. Maybe an uncommon troll, but definitely not our usual variety.

So, let me try to reword. You find humor in things that are out of place in life, in other words "inappropriate". You really don't care whether others find it equally amusing, or if they get offended, because you enjoy both reactions. But you are kind of disappointed that the offended parties weren't more creative and thoughtful in their replies.

It may help for you to realize that many of the people who lightly dismissed you are exhausted. You wanted a dramatic flame, but they are just too tired to put on the real fireworks. A lot of them have some major things to deal with in their real lives, not to mention that trolls and people who get mistaken for trolls are a dime a dozen around here, and replying to them all with full attention gets very tiring and redundant. And time-consuming. Most of them at this point have nothing left but a "you're stupid and annoying" to give before they go off to the next Toy Dolls episode or whatever they came here to see. I know it's disappointing, and I like to read a good flame as well as the next, but it's really not their job to put out for your enjoyment if they don't feel up to it. But believe me, Feral and the rest DO possess the talent and abilites to produce a royal flame when they're in the mood.

Long explanations of your intentions really aren't good flamebait, anyway, and depart from the inappropriateness that you started with. And repetitious statements will generally produce repetitious replies. So if you want a decent flame, produce some good fuel, and you will again get the positive and negative reactions you enjoy.

I really think most people here are not irritated enough with you anymore to invest the time to read a longish post. Like I've said, people have some big things to deal with around here, and I'm afraid going through several paragraphs of explanations is fairly low on their lists of priorities.

Personally, I think it might have been wiser for people to leave well enough alone if they weren't interested enough to read the posts, but people sometimes do silly things.

I hope I'm starting to understand you better.

But please, PLEASE don't start thinking you have one up on anyone here when it comes to humor, or comprehension, or anything else. I will say, that's the one point where you really start to kind of irritate me. I've known most of these people for a matter of years, and they are among the most intelligent, funniest people I have ever met, and very far from being sticks-in-the-mud who can't take a little irreverant humor or a joke at their own expense. To be perfectly honest, I understand what you are doing, I see your motives, and what you have done has been done better by others. If people are pissed at you, I think it's mostly because you seem to think you've done something special and out of the ordinary. I'm not pissed, personally, because it really doesn't matter to me. I have a pretty thick skin. Irreverant humor is a big thing here, and you should read some of Dolorosa and Ironboots and IAmSquid's earlier forum posts if you don't think so. And certainly no one cares about what is "appropriate" here, at least under societies standards. We all push the envelope to a phenomenal degree, and not just in what we say. I'm talking about living our lives "frankly and honestly", regardless of what others decree as appropriate, and we haven't just gotten flamed in some internet forum, some of us have had our lives threatened by real, face-to-face people. So it makes it difficult for us to figure out if your posts are more ridiculous or infuriating. But they certainly are uninformed.

God, Shmooth, I LIKE you, mostly. Do your shtick, if you want. But please, PLEASE don't get some superiority complex going. You are intelligent, yes. Probably more so than most of the people around you. I understand. But, forgive me for saying this, you are young. 17, right? I think you said that somewhere. You may be intelligent, but you lack maturity. No fault of your own, you can't help the year you were born. But it helps to be aware of this fact, and that others, who equal you in intelligence, may also exceed you in experience, and while you may have a little to teach us, we probably have a whole lot more to teach you. Part of growing up is learning that you don't know half as much as you think you do. But still knowing that you know what you know. If you can follow that - excuse my lack of clarity!

If you find being misunderstood funny, fine. But if you're pissing people off for your own amusement, please don't expect them to go out of their way for you. I have a feeling you will never be popular on this site. I have a feeling that was your choice. You've made your bed, and you're lying in it. If it satisfies your sense of humor, great. But I feel that you're missing out on a lot this place could offer you if you had chosen a different way. There's a million sites on the internet where you could irritate people, but I've never come across another place like Shmeng with the sort of people we have here. If you make friends here, you have friends for life. Real friends, not just people who say nice things to you. Yes, there has been some bickering and moderator shit and stuff like that. Shit happens and things get out of hand. I really don't see the problem with favoritism here, however, since the "favorites" generally earned their positions by being intelligent, open, interesting, and playing fair. And if someone's not a favorite, it's either because they've been dumb, closeminded, boring, or shmengy, or else they just haven't opened up enough to be discovered.

I'm sorry that I came across as thinking you should not be you. You are who you are, and you should not try to be someone else just to be accepted. But on the other hand, who you are can be developed and formed. You are not exactly what you were 5 years ago, and 5 years from now you will find you have changed still more. You should value yourself the way you are, but also understand that you are not necessarily equally valuable to those around you. Others can help you figure out how to remain true to yourself without repulsing those who could have been of great benefit to you. For example, you have had a bit of a laugh at other people's expense, but also at the expense of gaining some valuable and wise friends. Perhaps you think they are a little oversensitive. Perhaps they are. Perhaps they have reason to be.

However, no one can help anyone develop in a direction they do not want to go. You cannot make anyone respond to you the way you want, and they cannot make you respond to them either. Be what you will. But if you want help or an outside opinion or anything, believe it or not, we can be of service. Oh well. I suppose it doesn't matter.

I don't see where you think Shmeng represses the intuitive mind. Read some of Devin's articles about vibe. Generally, we take the view that it takes intellect and vibe together to be a truly stellar example of humanity. But vibe without reason can be intensely dangerous, both to the possesor of said reasonless vibe, and to the people around them. People without reason make us want to duck our heads and hide, while people without vibe make us want to walk away and yawn.

I think that part of your problem here is what you said at the end of your post. You may be very charismatic in person, and thus succeed in your type of fun. But somehow the charisma didn't communicate itself in your posts. So it's not so much that we want you to change yourself, just the way you communicate yourself. Take a hint that you haven't expressed your intention properly, not that we have any particular problem in accepting your intentions. Maybe you can find a way to bring that charisma through. Two people can say essentially the same thing with the same intentions, and one will be laughed at and one will be flamed. Why? Because one succeeded in communicating his personality in his post, and the other didn't.

If I had just read the Attention Whoring posts, I would never have given you a second glance. My hint of hidden worth came entirely from the posts in other forums. I never got a chance to see the article, so I can't judge on that.

I think you realize that I am really trying to figure you out, so maybe you'll take a little advice from me. Your other posts I think express a more rounded view of your personality, without losing that irreverant quality. If you want people to take you for who you are, make sure you are communicating who you are. If intelligent people are misunderstanding your personality, it may be because you are miscommunicating your personality. Just a hint.

 

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 06:26 AM
Squire.Clench up your asshole. And keep your bitchmouth closed.
Dont fart and say "that was me".

Try to contribute instead,you egodriven insecure queerdo.

 

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  posted on 14/3/2004 at 12:26 AM
That was me.

 

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  posted on 13/3/2004 at 06:00 PM
You bring up a good point Shmooth, What DO I care. Not enough to continue, and enough to try and find something pertenant in your posts to talk about. So I didn't talk about it.

 

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  posted on 13/3/2004 at 03:05 PM
actually shmooth... it was.. incoherent... unintelligible... and just irrelevant... and as usual... unwanted...

BORING

 

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  posted on 13/3/2004 at 01:50 PM
No Squire.Actually it wasnt.
But hey .. what do you care. Obviously not enough to notice.

 

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  posted on 13/3/2004 at 11:28 AM
Eh, same old, same old. This is getting boring.

 

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  posted on 13/3/2004 at 06:11 AM
Schizo , You should be a social worker!

If you didnt kinda speak on my part because you want to sleep with me or something.. That was very cool of you.
By the way..Congratulations on getting married!

I see there is good talk about the shmooth. That's not good. Fortunately,I've planned for such emergencies.


"Now, I realize that there was an article that was deleted due to the fact that it was breaking down the website.
Was that where the trolling began?"

I was never told it was deleted because it was breaking down the website.
I was told it was deleted because it was "train wretch writing". Which is ok. I understand.
However, it had content. So if I could have been given the opportunity to edit it,I would have been glad to,since it had been found so out of place.
MANY of my writings have been deleted. Even those that were relatively proper.
But hey.. I guess anything I write "breaks down the site"..



Schizo. What you are doing right, is trying to break it down.
Perhaps,because you,unlike everybody else,dont have your ego stopping you.
Thus, I will confide in you what you pinpoint.

"But if I've read Shmooth at all,
it is very hard for him to back down and admit that the error was his in failing to make his un-seriousness clear,
instead he laid the blame on the offended parties for lacking a sense of humor.
Thus demonstrating some very trollish behavior, completely inadvertantly."

It is my opinion, that when truth and frankness is always put
into places where people see it as out of context, it triggers humour.
If not on their part, on my part.
So if they laugh at what I said,or if they laugh at me for saying it,or both, is all cool. OR,they dont laugh at all,because they cant digest uncivilized humour.
I think everything is in context, if you're reading it in the right context.

What bothers me is how people cannot respond to me in the same manner I respond to them.
If you're gonna dog me,have some insight and put some brains into it.
All people here seem to know as a response (with some exceptions like LadyCygnet.Atleast she tries sometimes) is to tell me straight up that Im a rotten person or whatever.
Most people,are just no fucking fun.

Also,I am sick of hearing complaints about "long posts". Does it actually take so fucking long for most people to read???
If you read 300 w.p.m I can see why it's hard for some to read what I write.
Others just tell me they havent read what I've written,so that they can let go of the feeling of wanting to respond to things I've said.
Because after all, you do care about what impression you give me (though some of you try to act like you dont).

I read photographicly and via thought stream. It's not like I actually talk as much as I write.
I write by thought stream, so I just keep pumping it out.
You're not supposed to read what I write like some fucking storybook. And I dont expect you to. (You're not supposed to read for like 20 minutes).
So the lines dont have to be perfect. And the spaces are intended (most of the time, besides the trouble with copying and pasting between editing programs).
So get off my back about it.
It's not that I dont have respect for those that havent learnt to comprehend the way I do. But come'on..
When I actually do comedy,I do it with my mouth.

Hey..if it helps anybody..add me on msn,and I'll send you some ebooks about reading and comprehension n shit. Zero, u interested?


People here are used to humour in context.
Where it is clear that "it is humour".

I however, make it a point to leave this to the curious mind.

Then again,when there is confusion, there is nothing as humourous,and disturbing to the knowing observer,
as civilized people subjected to uncivilized humour.

I dont like audience members going "good one!" *and clapping their hands* .
I believe violent results of humour(crazy laughter),and confusion, are very close together.They are very closely accosiated.
Even sometimes when they dont laugh, I know why.

What is even more humourous, is the illusion of unwillingness to still any erupted confusion.
Thus, without backing down from things said by calling them "failures",and apparently "stubbornly" proclaiming them as jokes, still claiming it's humour.


I dont enjoy wounding egos.I DONT!! So Im holding back.
However, I enjoy promoting and cultivating ways to seemingly take blows to the ego,without getting hurt.
Because that's what people cant do.



"admit that the error was his in failing to make his un-seriousness clear" .
Extreme frankness is often perceived as serious, my dear. Im not being "un-serious". Im not being "serious" either.
But it is just that. Frankness. An honest presentation.
If something honestly perceived is abrasive with style, then it's funny. :-D Period.

" REPLY TO "FUCK OFF" ARTICLE-----I have checked the site nearly every day since I became a member... almost pathologically.
I have seen "moderator battles", I have seen favoritism, I have seen cliques, I have seen good advice, I have seen bad advice,
I have seen fire and I have seen rain. Although "teasing" has always been part and parcel of the content here (at least as long as I have been here),
the general tone has gotten more and more below-the-belt and less and less amusing. The roasts were a fine idea, and I liked what people were doing there,
but I didn't feel close enough to anyone to participate very much. I finally broke down and threw caution to the wind and jumped in... immediately before they died out. As usual.Happenstance, but it is a happenstance that always seems to happen where I am concerned. ---Monolycus "


It's not that I mean to kick anybody under the belt.
It's that I intend to lower their belts to the ground, and then kick them. Repeatedly. Again,and again. :-)
Because when I walked in, people had their belts well over their heads.

"The thing is, from reading his forum posts (not here, but earlier ones),
he actually has some decent things to say. If encouraged to drop the abrasive funny-man attitude,
and brought out and developed when he produces something interesting in itself,
he may turn out a lot better than most people seem to give him credit for."

If Im encouraged to stop being me?!! :-D
Let me explain something. It's not a difference in attitude from when Im saying "something decent",
and being frank. I am always frank; I ALWAYS give an honest presentation of something perceived.
It's whether what I say comes across as abrasive or not,that makes the difference in your eyes.
The abrasive funny-man is not a separate personality.
I say whatever is on my mind.

I've also noticed that some people are just outright afraid of me.
Afraid to tell me something or even utter a word my way because they think that I'm just here to make fun of people and stomp on egos.

Im not!

But..



A little hint for people: If you have your belt above your waist line, I can sense it. And I will kick you.


Meranda:


"And to risk looking like I'm jumping on the bandwagon, I agree... Schitz is a saint. But Schitzo, I too thought the boy had merit at first. I'm not sure he knows to listen to reason at this point in his development yet, though."

ah Meranda,Meranda,Meranda.. I find it sad that shmeng is a place where you only reward the rational mind ,and suppress the intuitive mind.
*grieves*



"1) he generated a lot of traffic on the site. he can get people stirred up, now, if only he could do it in a good way or for a good reason.
2) He can put a decent sentence together when he isn't babbling incoherently. If he drops the stupid frat-boy attitude, we might see a bit of intelligence from him.

*gospel choir singing "He's got the whole world, in his hands!" *
Hey,lowering belts is a good reason.


Honestly,I really like people here. But some people could be more easy going.
Feral, you need anger management. *lol*
How many people have you eat today?


"He seems very young".
Yes,I am very childlike. I think the biggest challenge in life,is living life,yet remaining childlike.
I live my life as though I know nothing.
I said "childlike",not "childish".
I've been through a lot,yet Im childlike. I take great pride in trying to be childlike.

When I have the time.. sometimes I put on songs like "erotic city"-by prince ,and dance around the house all day.
*lol* Listen to the song,and you'll get the picture. That's the kind of person I am.
But yeah,Im abrasive as well.. But not in a way that should ever be taken seriously.


I guess part of what makes people laugh..is when they see me in person..and my charisma tells them Im a good person.
Yet I say abrasive things,which isnt what they expect.


Also..you people should know..That I have been stressed out over people taking true offence.
I can inform you that being stressed out led to waking up one morning with a pimple in my ear, and one on my ass.
Yeah, that's karma for ya.


Now ,I have to catch up on all the exercise I've been missing.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 12:25 PM
shakes linns head and walks away as well

 

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  posted on 8/3/2004 at 07:23 AM
:sigh: :shakes head: :walks away:

 

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  posted on 5/3/2004 at 10:56 AM
I've read a lot of his posts too and it does seem that outside this forum that he's mostly a decent guy which is why I wish that he would just stop pretending to be a jerk.

Shizo: thanks for explaining his post....I wish i had someone around to explain to me all the incoherent babble that goes on around me at all times (my own personal translator.....maybe I'll get one for X-mas)

All joking aside I beleive he's a good person...then agian i'm very naive.

 

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