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DarkMistress
Member   Posts: 170 Registered: 6/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/7/2002 at 09:21 PM |
| I agree with you Callei on the intelligence thing. I´m not good at math,
but I get high scores in every other class. I could talk endlessly on
religion, and believe it or not i give good relationship advice to pathetic
infatuated middle schoolers who reluctantly come to me. See we´re all
smart *giggles.* I still have my fits from time to time, we all do. Really
you´re judged by how you handle situations. I´m an outstanding peace maker
*laughs hysterically* I was even a conflict manager in 4th grade..... ____________________
"Pity no one was there
No angels in the air
And the morning paper ran
One more suicide"
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chrisSy
Occasional Poster   Posts: 12 Registered: 26/2/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/2/2005 at 01:30 AM |
I'm actually only 14, but am most certainly more mature than other people
my age. I won't argue with the experience and the intelligence bit, of
course. I know that I haven't been there yet, and I haven't done that yet,
whatever it is.
I find it very unusual however that people nearly 10 years older than me
prefer my company to people their age.
And I find it very unusual that people mistake me to be 17 or 20. Wait,
maybe that's because I just actually look that old already. ____________________
Brace me for reality
A thousand unknown fears
Unexpected infidelity
Condemned to me by destiny
Free my spirit, my mind, my heart
Erase all doubts and worries
And when the night is coming
Silence my soul as always...
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W0rmW00d
Fanatic   Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 1/3/2005 at 03:53 AM |
I love to associate with people younger than me. It makes me feel younger.
Who wouldn't. I can put up with immaturity, naivite and hormones, just as
the people older than me here sometimes put up with my immaturity and
naivité. To spend time with a seventeen year old (I'm only 20) means
getting caught up in the excitement of 'will I get served at the pub' just
like when I was younger and didn't feel so jaded. If i feel like that at 20
then at 24 maybe I'll want to hang out with 14 ear olds. The gap between
how old you are and how old you wish you were gets wider as you get older
on the most part. Who says it has to expand at a yearly rate?
This isn't to dispute your claims that you are mmore mature than other
people your age, but I do disagree that it is unusual that people that much
older want to spend time with you, and was just giving a possible
explanation. ____________________
Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world.
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chrisSy
Occasional Poster Posts: 12 Registered: 26/2/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 1/3/2005 at 04:43 AM |
You have a point there, and I won't argue with it. I do think that my
mental maturity, however, comes from being locked in our house since I was
8 (I was very allergic to dirt and dust, and the country I live in is very
polluted, trust me). I developed an affinity to reading books thrice my
comprehension level at the time, and started spending most of my time on
the internet. I am, therefore, more exposed to things than my friends. Not
only that, I have far more problems than they do.
Not to mention this quiz--which I know is not that accurate--I took, http://www.blogthings.com/whatagequiz/ , stated that I'm
30. Jeez. ____________________
Brace me for reality
A thousand unknown fears
Unexpected infidelity
Condemned to me by destiny
Free my spirit, my mind, my heart
Erase all doubts and worries
And when the night is coming
Silence my soul as always...
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W0rmW00d
Fanatic Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 3/3/2005 at 06:38 AM |
This rant is not aimed at chrisSy, it is inspired thereby.
How does one accurately quantify a comprehension level? Comprehension
requires experience and at the age of 10 you can have experienced far more,
or far less than someone of the age 7. Assuming a proportional correlation
between age and experience, as a quantification has to for consistency and
to keep variables low enough to calculate, thrice the comprehension level
of a ten year old would be 30, thrice that of a 7 year old would be 21.
However as we all know experience and therefore ability to comprehend
something does not come with age, so our calculation is at least 1/3
wrong.
Bloody quantifications of abstract abilities. Just like IQ tests, except
they are at least a reasonably consistent standard, rather than 'ooh, this
book is for about thirty year olds' That is not comprehension level, that
is a demographic...
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Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world.
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chrisSy
Occasional Poster Posts: 12 Registered: 26/2/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 3/3/2005 at 03:31 PM |
| Tests are not limited to IQ and EQ tests. There are also tests for reading
and comprehension. I take one yearly. ____________________
Brace me for reality
A thousand unknown fears
Unexpected infidelity
Condemned to me by destiny
Free my spirit, my mind, my heart
Erase all doubts and worries
And when the night is coming
Silence my soul as always...
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W0rmW00d
Fanatic Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/3/2005 at 02:20 PM |
| Yes, they are roughly the same as every other test in the universe though.
They are a standardisation of levels of intellect and ability based on
averages which, in a world of 6.6 billion is an obscene way to check
something. ____________________
Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world.
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gothicmorman
Fanatic  Posts: 233 Registered: 11/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/3/2005 at 06:09 PM |
i did not like that quiz it didn't have my answers... what show would i
watch? i don't even watch tv! it said i was 14, which was quite
dissapointing. i was hoping for something more like 4-6 or so...
as far as 15 goes, when i was 15 i did not think i knew it all, i was
extremely confused and trying to figure things out by myself because all it
seemed like parent figures wanted to do was force their own beliefs into my
head.. but i must have seemed like i knew everything becuase they kept
telling me that is what i thought. i never felt like i needed to know
anything because there were so many adult ready to tell me what i thought
or felt. i still don't feel like i know very much for certain and i doubt i
ever will but then again i dont really want to because if i knew things for
certain then my opinions and thoughts and such would have nowhere to grow
to...
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chrisSy
Occasional Poster Posts: 12 Registered: 26/2/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 7/3/2005 at 01:37 AM |
You have a point.
I won't post an argument. That'd be stupid of me to do so. ____________________
Brace me for reality
A thousand unknown fears
Unexpected infidelity
Condemned to me by destiny
Free my spirit, my mind, my heart
Erase all doubts and worries
And when the night is coming
Silence my soul as always...
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gothicmorman
Fanatic Posts: 233 Registered: 11/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 12/3/2005 at 09:50 PM |
so in essence the point devin made back at the beggining has been
undoubtedly proven and even still every goes through many different stages
while growing up and hopefully we will all end up as "decent human beings"
in the long run.
well i think i learned something - how about everyone else?
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/3/2005 at 05:31 PM |
| statements like that last one, chrissy... are part of what people get upset
about... while it may not have been intended as such, it could have been
percieved as more than a little bitchy... if you have a response (that is
what a conversation - a well thought compilation of intellectual discourse
- demands... an argument, while fun at times does nothing to feed the
intellect and tends to be simplistic, at best... I am resigned to the fact
that this will be interpreted as an attack, but I am still hopeful that my
attempts to educate and fascillitate integration of new members can be
recognised for what they are... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 13/3/2005 at 05:38 PM |
in response to the original post... intelligence, here at least measured by
your ability to communicate and make yourself understood in a well thought
out and expressed manner. Typos and mis-spellings aside... if one cannot
make propper sentences with the words they know... they fail the iq
test...
The commentary on age is not one of intellect or intelligence but
maturity... one can be opinionated without being immature... for example...
the mature thing to do would have been to make this post without posting
names...
If you act 15, you get treated as such... as for the newbie comment on
diabloe and other online gaming communities - it is a socially acceptible
way to say, you don't know what the fuck you are doing... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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KittyGoesMrow
Fanatic  Posts: 218 Registered: 30/4/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/3/2005 at 11:28 AM |
| Let me say That most people my age ANNOY THE PISS OUT OF ME... I'm 16 and
sure i have my immature moments but everyone does some time or other. They
help us grow because when we realise (well most of us...) people aren't
attracted to our crap or aren't oging to put up with it we usually step off
if we have any brains at all. I mean... you can find my "like 15" moments
on these forums somewhere I garuntee. I look at them and go "GAH! What was
I thinking?" But yeah... huge emotional outburst's and raging hormones are
part of puberty. Not much you can do about it... Every teen has them in one
form or other. Some very commendable people can supress them but those are
a tad rare. ____________________
Anata ga sabishii toki, bokumo sabishii n da yo
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gothicmorman
Fanatic Posts: 233 Registered: 11/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/3/2005 at 07:40 PM |
in order to be decent and go for a bit of maturity maybe i should explain
the last post i made...
quote:
all it seemed like
parent figures wanted to do was force their own beliefs into my head.. but
i must have seemed like i knew everything becuase they kept telling me that
is what i thought. i never felt like i needed to know anything because
there were so many adult ready to tell me what i thought or
felt.
for reference i had said this before which is a relatively prime example of
15 year old thinking and upon re-reading it i noticed that and hoped to
point it out though i suppose i did not do such a good job in getting that
across... yeah, not good job at all.
the point sort of was that even looking back at the thought process of a 15
year old can be done with a "like 15" mindset and thus prove that age and
maturity do not quite go hand in hand which is why someone like callei
would say "like 15" in hope that whoever the subject is will gain insight
and eventually grow up etc...
sorry, to you chrissy if that sounded bitchy i did not mean it to be.
though i kind of hoped you would post an argument if only for interests
sake and to keep the conversation going. by you saying "That'd be stupid of
me to do so." it seemed like you already understood the slight irony that
arose. anyway...
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asphyXiatedthoughts
Coward  Posts: 6 Registered: 24/3/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/3/2005 at 01:11 AM |
quote:
I'm actually only 14, but
am most certainly more mature than other people my age. I won't argue with
the experience and the intelligence bit, of course. I know that I haven't
been there yet, and I haven't done that yet, whatever it is.
I find it very unusual however that people nearly 10 years older than me
prefer my company to people their age.
And I find it very unusual that people mistake me to be 17 or 20. Wait,
maybe that's because I just actually look that old already.
Yeah, I'm also 14, I also get the same a lot. I have friends that are older
then me by quite a few years that when they first met me they thought I was
at least 17-18 because of my personaility.
My belief when it comes to the intellect of a person it doesn't matter the
age as many have said here. I don't think experience matters either. More
so how does a person think? How does a person calculate things and
understand things? I have ideas, thoughts, knowledge and beliefs on things
of which I haven't had any expeirences. I gather the views I have from the
logic of the topic. I shall say the smartest, most intellect people are the
ones that can sit for hours and just think about one thing. Go to the
limits to understand a topic and figure it out. Base their beliefs and
views on that.
Oh, everyone has their moments when they are immature. Nobody have better
say that they are always mature, there is no truth in that. Maturity is
just a label. Mature or immature, it doesn't matter. Each and every person
ever born is born with the same amount of intellect as each other. Just
some of us decide to reach to the limits others do not. One of my beliefs
is unconciously we know everything there is to know in the world. Never in
one life time will that knowledge be completely revealed, all that
knowledge will never be completely revealed. There is simply to much things
still left to be learned by the human race that by the time the world ends
there will still be things left unlearned. Unconciously we know everything
and through our lifetime we learn part of the knowledge. Some are able to
uncover certain things more quickly then others others take their time to
learn and uncover certain things slowly. Some never learn some things,
others learn some things well. Depends on the person whether or not they
choose to be a well thought out philosophical person or not. The intellect
of a person shouldn't matter anyways, its much better to judge on
personaility unless the intellect of the person greatly effects the
personaility.
Well thats enough for my first post.
Emily ____________________
Keep on screaming for the angel you are dreaming. Deceiving yourelf,
believing your lies, lost in the chaos no one hears your cries. Keep on
screaming the angel, the saint is not coming, stop dreaming. Wake up child,
open your eyes your beginning to fall.
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/3/2005 at 04:44 AM |
Yes... intellect does matter... nicest person in the world works at my
store... her name is Krisite... she is dumber than a bag od unassembled
doorknobs... as a result... you cannot have a conversation with her without
having to explain your words every 15 seconds... it is infuriating... How
can you even begin to presume to tell someone what they should value in a
person and what they should consider in their friends? It seems an arrogant
thing to do so...
While it does not seem like it now... when you hit a certain age... (it
differs from person to person) it is a scientifically proven fact that the
brain chemistry changes in a subtle manner... while this is subtle it is
measuralbe... and when you look back, you will see the differences in your
own psyche and reasoning capabilities... at this point, however... I am
going to let the sleeping dog lie, as I did not believe it when I was told
the same thing growing up...
The age issue is what it is.. there is a gap between generations... some,
can bridge it without missing a stride and others take a leap of faith into
a chasm that is too wide for them and fall to their doom... but, believe it
or not... intellect, age and experience are invaluable...and if they are
not, in your opinion, then perhaps you are in the wrong place... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/3/2005 at 05:42 AM |
When we call someone 14, obviously we do not mean that we are sure this is
their age, or that we think all 14 year olds are hopelessly irritating.
What we do mean it that the person in question is whining like a 2 year
old, while acting like they think they're older than the hills, a common
attitude for people in their early teens.
Some people never become "14", no matter how old they are. Some people
never seem to grow out of it. We all know how difficult and confusing it
is to be in your early teens. We've all been there, and it sucks. Very
few people can really say they had a great time at that age, and even fewer
would choose that age as the one they would go back to if they could.
When we call someone "14", often we are hoping that is really what age the
person is, so they have some excuse for their behavior, and will maybe grow
out of it. That maybe the person will go a way for a bit until they've
grown up enough to handle adult interaction, and then come back so we can
have a better time together. Unfortunately, many people who come here
acting "14" are actually old enough to know better. In which case, we hope
they will get their panties in a wad over the insult, and leave for
good.
However, if you really are 14, or 15, and can respect others and earn
respect, then welcome and we're glad to meet you. And our apologies for
the fact that we have used your age as an insult. It's not personal. ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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asphyXiatedthoughts
Coward Posts: 6 Registered: 24/3/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 26/3/2005 at 11:23 PM |
Schizo - apologies accepted. I never took it as anything personal in the
first place.
feralucce- I believe I never said that intellect didn't matter. I believe I
said or meant to say that it doesn't matter the age a person is, the way
they think and figure things out and understand things matters when it
comes to intellect. I never meant to say on the other hand that people with
not much intellect are bad people. I know very well they can be good
people. I myself as well know people that aren't extremely smart but are
very kind nice people and worthy friends. ____________________
Keep on screaming for the angel you are dreaming. Deceiving yourelf,
believing your lies, lost in the chaos no one hears your cries. Keep on
screaming the angel, the saint is not coming, stop dreaming. Wake up
child,
open your eyes your beginning to fall.
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/3/2005 at 03:42 PM |
you said "The intellect of a person shouldn't matter anyways, its much
better to judge on personaility unless the intellect of the person greatly
effects the personaility."
____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
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Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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asphyXiatedthoughts
Coward Posts: 6 Registered: 24/3/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/3/2005 at 04:32 PM |
| My apologies then, I shall say I am wrong in saying that and what you said
above is correct, intellect does matter. I should of thought out what I
said a bit more. ____________________
Keep on screaming for the angel you are dreaming. Deceiving yourelf,
believing your lies, lost in the chaos no one hears your cries. Keep
on
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screaming the angel, the saint is not coming, stop dreaming. Wake up
child,
open your eyes your beginning to fall.
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