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Author: Subject: Threefold Law or Similar Ideas...

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  posted on 17/10/2006 at 02:19 PM
In Wicca there's a strong belief in the threefold law - the idea that any energy that you send out will come back to you three times as strong. This doesn't really make sense to me, as it seems to go against the ideas of every action having an equal and opposite reaction, and energy not being created only changed from one form to another. I don't see how the energy is suddenly tripled to return to sender.

I think a far more common-sensical idea is to simply accept that if you're a positive person, you attract positive energy, and if you're a negative person you attract negative energy. This makes sense because it works for examples like if you go out of your way to help someone, they're a lot more likely to help you in the future than if you had caused them their problems in the first place. It also means that crappy things happening to good people, and bad people sometimes coming out on top are still acceptable situations because it's not like this is a hard and fast law.

So, the purpose of this thread, is what do you believe in? Several religions seem to have their own versions of this idea, sometimes it's as simple as 'do as you would be done by', and even the atheists here should have some form of opinion, possibly agreeing with me.

Do our actions have specific repurcussions? Does the energy we send out somehow return to us?

 

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  posted on 15/11/2006 at 01:28 PM
Well...douchebags and now sheep....mix all this stuff all together and you could come up with some off the wall new hippie esque type new religion thing. *nods*

And those sheep may be afraid of the same rock everyday but everyone has fears. Those that fear God, those that fear man, those that fear the dark, ect. No matter what you believe. Its like being afraid of something that you know damn well can't harm you but your are still petrified anyways

 

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  posted on 15/11/2006 at 07:58 AM
How can one overcome obstacles and NOT identify oneself with them

we are a collection of our experiences, our triumphs, our defeats, our joys, our pains... and everything we face and overcome makes us what we are... if you do not identify yourself with your past... then you are a sheep...

my uncle has a sheep ranch... these animals are so dumb, that they are taken down the same path every day... and every day they are scared by a rock... the same damn rock... they don't even become conditioned to expect it and start to get scared before... it's ... amazing

 

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  posted on 15/11/2006 at 05:21 AM
As I said, it's only a punishment if one percieves it to be such.

It's natural to hope that the Universe will avenge yoo but the reality is the system isn't happy smiley let's frolic with dafodils and fuck like bunnies karma. In fact there isn't a system at all. Typically however, if yoo look fro trouble, yoo'll get it. If yoo don't look for trouble, yoo'll still probably have to put up with a certain amount of it.

The trick is to not think of yorself as a victim. Overcome yor obstacles rather than identify yorself with them. I realize this is often very difficult, especially if yoo have had some shitty things happen to them. Nevertheless, every crisis can be beneficial if used it to yor benefit.

 

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  posted on 14/11/2006 at 03:51 AM
I am told haggis is a delight... but I chooe to remain ignorant of it's glory... I am cursed by this...according to some... personally, I am relieved that I have this particular curse

 

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  posted on 14/11/2006 at 03:13 AM
No, I think it's still a curse - the DB just doesn't realize what it's missing out on. Plus, behind all the satisfaction they reap from their douchebaggery, there is also (if they are intelligent enough) a deep inner fear of losing their power to get away with it. Being a douchebag is a dangerous occupation - if you do it unwisely, or to the wrong person, it can have serious repercussions. Of course, the smell of danger generally gives the DB a nice adrenaline rush, and a wise DB will choose its victims carefully.
 

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  posted on 13/11/2006 at 04:26 PM
even that is nto a course... most dbs want a croud of dumbass yes men all around them to stroke their ego

 

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  posted on 13/11/2006 at 03:32 PM
It is sad that most douchebags actually ENJOY throwing shit at others. So while it might be a punishment for you or I, Squid, to behave as a douchebag, to a true douchebag, it's like a fucking carnival. Especially since many people will give a douchebag anything it wants, just to make it go away, since it's easier than fighting.

It's like with smells - if you smell something putrid, you gag and vomit. But if you yourself are putrid, you really don't smell it anymore - you just make other people gag and vomit.

The real curse of being a douchebag is the fact that only weaklings and fellow douchebags bother to associate with you. And weaklings are useless, and fellow douchebags will treat you as badly as you treat them. But douchebags rarely realize that they are missing out on having positive relationships with intelligent, strong, and worthwhile people. They're too busy being douchebags.

 

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  posted on 13/11/2006 at 01:03 PM
ok..lemme reword it...

bitchy people, rarely care about people's reaction to their behavior... as such, the douvchebag... while not happy... is not punished and very often... NOT unhappy

 

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  posted on 13/11/2006 at 12:47 PM
Yeah man, I know when I look at people who treat others like shit and I say "now there's a happy person."

Regardless, I wouldn't be happy being a douchebag (excep to certain people) and I have no envy whatsoever for those who I identify as such.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2006 at 12:03 PM
see...I disagree with that... being a douchebag is not punishment... they tend to enjoy their lives.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2006 at 11:39 AM
lets douche the douchebags and their douchebagginess

 

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  posted on 10/11/2006 at 02:30 PM
Define "Spiritual Energy?"

Kira interprited what I meant correctly except that it's only a punishment if yoo percieve it to be such. I don't like people who act like douchebags so I try not to act like one myself.

 

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  posted on 10/11/2006 at 08:52 AM
There is no difference between physical energy and spiritual energy... lets start with some basic scientific facts.

Fact: When they have studied Psychic ability... those that showed a marked ability above the rest show an advanced alpha wave state identical to that experienced when in REM sleep. This state lasts for a small time after waking from the dream state. Ironically, most inventors come up with their innovations at this time.

Supposition: Ever had a dream that came true? Ever dreamt an entire conversation then had it? The advanced alpha state could be responsible for that.

Fact: A computer can be effected by EM radiation. The process is called induction. It's the foundation for how radios and televisions work. As anecdotal evidence - in my home town, there was a Hardees that had an awning over the entire drive through. WHen anyone with a CB or similar tranceiver would "key up" (transmit) in the drive through, their register system would crash. This phyical phenomenon is the reason you will find FCC compliance stickers on many appliances

Fact: Any strong magnetic field will leave its mark on an ambient magnetic field. We live in an ambient magnetic field - the earth's. Lines of weak magnetic force can be distorted by a stronger source. An example of this is a television. if you drag a magent over the screen it will remain distorted. This can destroy older sets because it will leave the distortion there... It won't work on plasma and lcd set, but most modern CRT televisions have an automatic De-gauss function because of this.

Fact: The human brain, during times of stress, can put out a magnetic field that can be read across a room and far exceeds the 2 miligauss of the earth's magnetic field.

Fact: In essence, the human brain and a computer are made up of the same thing, a series fo switches that are on or off. Yes, the brain has chemical flavoring to its firing, but in essense a transistor and a neuron are either on or off. It has been proven, in modern psychology that the brain responds to certain EM frequencies in certain ways. i.e. the brain reacts to certain colors in certain ways.

Fact: there are animals on the planet that are excessively sensitive to magnetic fields already. Birds that migrate, fish that swim back to the place of their birth to spawn, and dogs that navigate continents to get home.

Supposition: Why does it have to be metaphysical when physical laws allow for the same experience? Strong emotion marks the magnetic field. Brains that are sensitive enough can pick up on these changes in magnetic fields.

Theroy: The big bang... everything was part of one subatomic super particle
Fact: When we split a particle, there is a phenomenon known as quantum entanglement, where the fragments are linked, permenantly. When quark a goes spin down, instantly, quark 2 will go spin up. What is done to one is reflected by the other.

Supposition: by prayer, spell, wish... we invoke that key alpha state that seems to be the underlying structure of the universe. Since we are all matter from teh same subatomic super particle, we have learned, at least in part, to control the entanglement of ourselves with the rest of the universe. In short, there is no difference between phyical energy and spiritual energy... all energy springs from the same source, the core of the nuclear furnaces of stars...

 

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  posted on 10/11/2006 at 01:58 AM
*grins*

I think everyone's pretty much said what I believe, although in different ways, and possibly slightly more eloquently.

I was talking about this on another forum and someone suggested that it was a bad idea to try and apply the laws of physics to the Threefold Law, because the energy it refers to isn't physical energy, but spiritual energy instead.

What do you think about that idea?

I don't see how spiritual energy would be anything other than plain old energy with a different name tacked onto it. I mean, energy is energy is energy. If spiritual energy isn't energy of the type we talk about in physics, then what would it be? And why would it be called energy at all?

 

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  posted on 9/11/2006 at 05:14 PM
douchebag is as douchebag does

 

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  posted on 9/11/2006 at 04:33 PM
I think he means that being a douchebag is a punishment in and of itself.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2006 at 03:59 PM
I did not percieve it as directed to me...

I feel that my question is still valid... it is not an indictment... nor an accusation... I attempting to understnad thist

 

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  posted on 9/11/2006 at 03:40 PM
He was being funny. He didn't mean you, Feral... he was using the word "you" in the universal sense.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2006 at 02:46 PM
and stating "you are a douchebag" infers, implies or statest this? I am just curious...

 

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