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Politics: The Front Line Adventure |
Posted by
MorteAscendo on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 04:02 AM PST
Before I begin, please excuse the vagueness I am not allowed to say certain things, if you know what I mean.
Well, it was a long a crazy adventure but I made it out ok. I have been in Kuwait teaching Army, Navy and Marine men about Emergency Medicine. I was randomly selected and had only one day to pack and say good-bye. I flew out on a big ole Air Force plane to about 7 different stops and one 12-hour lay over but I got there. I started teaching 3 days after I landed to classes as big as 150. I (with many others) would lecture and conduct labs on quick emergency medicine to the troops out there.
As most of you know I am a United States Naval Corpsman, in other terms i'm a Medic. Now attached to a Hospital, I do not do field work at this time, but it was a great opportunity to go and educate others and experience first hand field operations. But probably one of the coolest things, was to be able to be there, in the mist of war. I was there for about 3 weeks and couple days after it all started. My Commanding Officer had me pulled as soon as the bombing started and I got a flight out straight back to my command.
But all in all it was pretty crazy. The saddest part for me is that 2 of the Marines that have died where in one of my lectures, one participated in a working Lab with me, so that hit home real hard.
But i’m glad to be home, believe that. So that’s about it, not too exciting but it was something that I will not ever forget.
Support our troops in the Gulf: Remember, they are doing their job. Thanks.
-Mort
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Suppoting our troops
by Closetgothbabe on Apr 08, 2003 - 07:20 AM
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I got this list from a friend of mine but if anyone would like to help it will only take a little bit of your time. Im sure it will be appreciated more than you know.
Please share this list with anyone you can and also feel free to share our e-mail addresses. We are doing what little we can to reach out to the guys and gals who are fighting so hard to protect our safety and our freedom. Some of these folks aren't even getting any mail from stateside!! They are hearing a lot about the protesters and not nearly enough about those of us who really support their efforts to keep our country safe.
Try to be patient. We've been told that it is taking up to 3 weeks for the letters to get to them, but that they are writing back. Two CO's also said that it is great for their morale if we send pictures...even if it's just with our family, friends, anything. It makes us "real" to them.
First Group: This group is part of the 1st marines exped. force.:
You can write to them at this address:
(Soldier's Name)
A CO 1ST TNK BN
UIC 39838
FPO AP 96426-9838
LCpl Diaz, Cpl Lehnoff, LCpl Garcia, Sgt Martinez, Sgt Lehman, SSgt Aurillio, Lt Bicking, Cpl Evans, LCpl Carmean, Cpl Cochran, Cpl Alejos, Cpl Chung, LCpl Bell, Sgt Escamilla, Cpl Hernandez, Sgt Rivas, Sgt Rodriguez, Sgt Acevedo, Cpl Mulder, SSgt Orr, LCpl Wassell, LCpl Cowgill, Cpl Tolefree
Second Group:
(Soldier's Name), USMC
3rd Lar Bn H/S Co Cook
UIC 39850
FPO AP 96426-9850
(You can e-mail doppeeii@aol.com for questions about these guys)
Cpl. Tiger, Cpl. Ruiz, Cpl. Villarreal, Cpl. Louis, Cpl. Cardiel , LCpl Bell, LCpl Thomas, LCpl Harper, LCpl Payne, LCpl Morales, LCpl Sandoval, PFC Cacho
Third Group:
Use the same address for all of these soldiers:
(Soldier's Name- last name first, first name last)
A CO 3/325 Air
82nd Airborne division
APO EA09368
1LT Pollard Wesley. SSG Hancock Shane, PFC Mackey Adam, SSG Baker Andrew, SGT Markovich Brian, PvT Flores Christopher,
PFC Small Ronald, SGT Pike Isaac, PVT Wright Carter, SPC Colle Jason, PFC Simila John, SSG Dein Jason, SPC Shaffer Caleb,
PFC Garza Juan, PFC Williams Matthew, PvT Labonte Garry,
SPC Guanzon Deinill, PFC Yellowman Nathan, PFC Ornelas Andrew,
SGT Cmehil Douglas, SGT Boulden Kevin, PFC King Truman,
PVT Moreland Carter, {VT Williamson Cassidy, SGT Smith Douglas,
PFC Vinning Jeremy, SPC Freel Christopher, PVT Tjalsma Robert,
SSG Guervarra Rowell, SPC Perry George, PVT Paatterson Darrell,
PVT Harris Matthew, PVT Mountainsheep Lorenzo, PFC Jarvis Jason,
PFC Hittle Benjamin, PVT Grounds John, PVT Gambil Darren,
(This list was given by Jason Colle's grandmother)
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Another Division:
The majority of these marines are reservists from Southern Georgia and North Central Florida.
Here is the list of Marines who need letters the most along with their address. To pick one I would suggest saying a prayer and then maybe closing your eyes and pointing. I do not have any information on the age, sex, or where these Marines are from. They are all equally important and in need of a pen pal.
The address should be written out as follows:
(Marine's Rank and Name)
USMC B Co 4AABN 1MAR DIV (Platoon) UIC 39842
Box 1708 FPO AP 96426-1708
1st Platoon: Capt Aaroyo, Cpl Edgecomb, Cpl Lapalm, Cpl Peterson, Cpl Gibs, GnySgt Germano, LCpl Noske, LCpl Imhoff, LCpl Buhr, LCpl Kelley, LCpl Bradley, LCpl Himes, LCpl Brown,LCpl Imhoff, LCpl Pacheco, LCpl Mondol, LCpl Lahey, LCpl Thomas, LCpl Mitchell, LCpl Sessions, LCpl Brookins, LCpl Barling, LCpl Higgins, LCpl Wendorff, LCpl Merritt, PFC Williams, A., PFC Blackwell, PFC Marra, PFC Mil
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Re: The Front Line Adventure
by Merry_Widow on Apr 08, 2003 - 09:01 PM
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Go, Morte go!!
It is nice to know that you are okay. And I am extremely thankful for all you nad the other service folk have done and continue to do.
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by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com)
on Apr 08, 2003 - 10:02 PM
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How was it cool? Something like that would bother me greatly; to be there in front of all of those people- thinking about what they will be doing and what may happen to them. Not to mention their average age and the implications there of. And what a job to take. I'd rather do anything else but that.
I'm glad you are home, and even more glad that you are a Medic.
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Re: The Front Line Adventure
by Merry_Widow on Apr 13, 2003 - 05:30 PM
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I'm glad you're a medic too. Because then you can fix up the people you shoot, if you choose to do so.
It's like being some sort of diety!
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Re: The Front Line Adventure by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Apr 18, 2003 - 02:17 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/ | Well that would be true if any of those people over there, especially medics, were blood hungry killers and not paid soldiers set out to accomplish a task with as few casualties as possible. And remember, the other side shoots back with intent to kill also. That makes them just as bad as the "hypocrites", so it's a nice level playing field, huh? |
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Re: The Front Line Adventure
by Arthegarn on Apr 17, 2003 - 11:13 AM
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Glad to hear you're back, Morte. As for war support, you don't know what a bad time we've had here. 90% public opinion (I'm talking about a government run poll) opposed the war, and it's amazing how little are some "pacifists" willing to listen or talk out differences, and how do they react when intellectually cornered.
There are not only fanatics about religion. All fanaticism is bad.
But thank God you are back and safe. I wonder where will the next US strike be (there are many candidates and I fear Korea is one of them), as for when... I'd say 9 months?
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Re: The Front Line Adventure by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com) on Apr 17, 2003 - 04:48 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://www.obolisk.com | You shouldn't be even joking about that. If we have a war with North Korea, the male population in the U.S. will be crippled by war casualties. Korea has the fourth largest army in the world, and they DO have weapons of mass destruction- unlike Iraq. And these strikes on other foreign countries does noting for the prevention of terrorism, it only puts more American lives in danger or destroys them all together. Not to mention it does simply too much good financially for the self driven bureaucracy that is the current administration. Our country hasn't known more than 500,000 soldiers to die in foreign wars throughout our history- and that’s in EVERY past foreign fought war. This time it can get put into the millions with this kind of mentality- and there simply won't be any males ages 18-26.
Is that protecting Americans? or is it serving the officials in office? Young males aren't Garbage for the government to use when it likes to or needs more money! |
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*COUGH* by MorteAscendo (corpsmanwix@aol.com) on Apr 18, 2003 - 06:39 AM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | "Young males aren't Garbage for the government to use when it likes to or needs more money!"
What the fuck do you think Grunt Marines are paid for, to sit around and plant flowers singing the "Elephant Show song"
Your always talking about how close minded everyone is, BUT YOU! We get paid to do what we do. We voulunteered to do what we do. Untill you grow some balls and actully experiance what we do, shut the fuck up and watch CNN and keep your Military and Bush bashing to yourself.
-Mort |
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Re: *COUGH* by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com) on Apr 18, 2003 - 12:21 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://www.obolisk.com | It takes more balls to speak against it, than the easier route of shutting up and taking money, Morte. Nice job, I hope you aren't religious. |
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Re: *COUGH* by Merry_Widow on Apr 18, 2003 - 01:48 PM (User info | Send a Message) | It takes more balls to leave home and go to some foreign rock and fight for what you believe in than it does to shoot your mouth off from behind a monitor. |
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Re: *COUGH* by Dolorosa (SixOfSwords@IU.zzn.com) on Apr 22, 2003 - 08:00 AM (User info | Send a Message) | There's a way to make a point, and theres a way to sound like an asshole...it's amazing, you somehow managed to try and make a point, but instead come off as a complete asshole...
Take some pointers from those who are obviously more intelligent than you.
You can state something with respect, and have your words listened too. Or you can bait and wheedle...and make everyone look like children.
Honestly, it takes intelligence and wisdom to be a wiseman, and though I don't claim to be one, I can see another fool when I'm around 'em.
Stic...you are such an asshole. |
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Re: *COUGH* by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com) on Apr 23, 2003 - 06:55 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://www.obolisk.com | Maybe because I can't bring myself to take a life- I think that should be what makes me an intelligent human, but people surprise me. But I don't care to knife people to death or shoot people or expose people to depleted uranium tank buster bullets. Maybe I'm not a horror of a human being. Kill all the people you want if you think it will solve things; I suggest you get started so you can figure it out, because I'm going to sit here and shoot off my mouth until it stops. You can support your troops by NEVER sending to instigate a war. And way? because then no blood is spilled and they can keep their lives.
Wait until Gulf War syndrome v. 2.0. You can clean up the blood ridden shit as they die of kidney cancer. You all horrify me. You are all horrors of human beings. You support murder and war. I don't understand you. |
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Re: *COUGH* by Dolorosa (SixOfSwords@IU.zzn.com) on Apr 24, 2003 - 12:57 AM (User info | Send a Message) | Whine whine, bitch bitch, sob sob sob...
We should horrify you Stic...because in all honesty...we aren't fucking sheep. We're wolves.
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Re: *COUGH* by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Apr 24, 2003 - 01:37 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/ | K, so people that support troops, but not necessarily war, or on the other hand see that sometimes you just have to put your foot down, are murderers, then panty pissing pacifists are pussies. It goes both ways.
Having a belief system does not make someone (or a group of people) a "horror" of a human being. You don't understand "them" because you've always refused to step from behind your baricade and listen. I am not a pacifist, but I understand pacifism. I don't agree with it 100%, but I can see where they are coming from at least, and respect their views tho I don't always subscribe to them.
Troops don't instigate wars. World leaders do. Unfortunately, those kids that entered the military for college money, as a better way out of a previously bad life, or for personal reasons are at the command of these men. They are there to do a "job" as best they can, without causing as much innocent death as they can, period. They aren't murderers, they're soldiers, and yes son there is a BIG difference.
There is no "good" side to the war. You have two megalomaniacs, each doing what they feel is "right", and it's a matter of choosing between the lesser of the evils, which is no real choice at all. I don't support it, nor am I totally against it. Yes, a lot of innocent civilians were killed...but think of how many more would have been killed had saddam been left in power? Hundreds died EVERY DAY at the hand of this man and his thugs, from outright killing to virtually strangling their ability to survive. I dont' think war was the answer, and I don't think that their "disarming" would have stopped the war...but all said and done I'm glad he's out of power. I'm sure there will be problems in that area again in the future, possibly from this war or from a numerous other set of reasons which always seem to spring up from there...or here.
You, by all means, can sit there and shoot your mouth off as much as you want until you're blue in the face darlin, because you'll run out of breath before anyone, anywhere, on the face of this doomed rock runs out of reasons to hate and kill. It has been going on since people first drew lines in the sand and dared their neighbor to cross it. You won't change it, I won't change it, and bullets won't change it, so go ahead and waste your time, just like they do, as you see fit. At least you'll have something to occupy yourself, but dont' be suprised when people tell you to shut up.
The world is not black and white. If anything it is grey, as there is no clear side to anything anymore, no clearly defined evil and definitely no clearly defined GOOD. You'll just have to learn to deal with it like the rest of us. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but either way you'll find out eventually. |
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I'll Take That Bait by Monolycus on Apr 18, 2003 - 08:08 AM (User info | Send a Message) | Arthegarn, if you are genuine about wishing to debate with someone who is opposed to the United States' military action in Iraq, I am ready, willing and able to do so... PROVIDED that it is debated genuinely and is not merely an intellectual game to see who can "corner" whom.
I would be particularly interested to know how your stance can be reconciled with Catholicism's tenet of being a Just War church as opposed to an Historic Peace church. Since the 4th century A.D., the Catholic church has established that warfare can be engaged in IF AND ONLY IF certain very tight conditions are satisfied. The Just War doctrine (that Pope John Paul II said the United States was in violation of) provides for war if:
- There exists a grave public evil. (Debatable)
- Injustice exists to one side and not to the other. (Debatable, unless you are very careful about describing who constitutes a "side". If it is the Ba'ath regime vs. the Iraqi people [Kurds and Shi'ites, mostly] then this condition is probably satisfied. If you define the Ba'ath regime as representing a global threat, then your argument becomes procrustean and is aimed at the simple minded and uninformed)
- There exists an appropriate, non-involved authority who can announce the end of aggressions once appropriate measures have been taken. (Violation, this authority would have been the United Nations)
- There must be a clear probability of success. (This is actually the only condition that was undeniably met as it was internationally recognised that Iraq could not defend itself from us)
- All alternatives must be exhausted. (Violation, despite rhetoric about "diplomatic measures having failed", it is recognised by all who are not being entirely sophist that diplomatic measures were never seriously engaged in and UN weapons inspectors had not completed their tasks before they were told to evacuate the country)
- There must be less harm done to engage in war than there would be not to. (Violation, although there was no way to know it beforehand. It is not insignificant that Iraq never used their mythical "weapons of mass destruction" in their own defense during their most dire hour)
- The principle of proportionality must be observed at every step. (Clear violation. By narrowing the U.S. objectives to smaller and smaller numbers of individuals, it was always necessary to "sacrifice" more civilians than "enemy combatants")
- It can not be undertaken for vengeance, personal gain, or any other reason than to keep the peace. (Violation. The serious conflicts-of-interest are too numerous to outline in this short space. If Iraq represented a genuine global threat, then any other nation on Earth should have been sanctioned to pursue changing its regime instead of the one with the most personal history and stake in the matter)
Pope John Paul II specifically cited that the criteria of just cause, just authority and proportionality had not been met, although, as I have just outlined, he needn't have stopped there. Incidentally, I am not a Christian myself, and all of my personal arguments against the campaign are entirely secular.
If you are truly interested in debating the issue, I would recommend that we do so in the forums, as this is really Morte's space here. By the way, as strongly as I feel against what the United States' government has done (and intends to do in Syria and Iran... NOT, as you suggested, in North Korea), I do want to mention that I am glad that Morte is back and in good health. Nice to see you around here again, buddy!
~Monolycus.
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