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Articles: UNBOWED Is Goth as FUCK! |
Posted by
NightSide on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 02:02 PM PST
That is a good friend of mine's favorite word.... He sells great T-Shirts with that on the back... What does it mean? Different things to different people, but to me it means that I do not bow to any force outside my life.
I do not ask the government for their protection and I do not accept them meddling in my private life. I bow to no god..... nor to any devil. I am a complete unto myself and I need no one to blame when I fall and no one to protect me and make me safe but me and my own will. I don't need a god to blame my faults on...... Oh it's gods will..... Bullshit it's my fuck up. I am not so small and week that I need a unseen being to blame my problems on..... Nor do I see the right-ness in the christians that act like total shits 6 days a week but know it will be ok because they go to church and pray one day a week..... What kind of bullshit it that I ask you.
Become UNBOWED. Take responsibility for your life, stop whining and stand up straight, proud and most of all UNBOWED.... DARE to live free and that also means DARE to take responsibility for your life. The pigs don't make you safe, they just close the bars on your cell...... This July pause to remember that this country was founded by the UNBOWED... "Those who desire to give up freedom to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one," said Thomas Jefferson, words it pays to remember.
I put a link on the links page to my friend's site. Tell Kelly, aka Chaos that NightSide sent you.
Jesse - NightSide
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Re: UNBOWED Is Goth as FUCK!
by Schizo on Jul 27, 2001 - 02:31 PM
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I would be interested to know what it was that happened to you in regards to Christianity that leaves you so vehement in it's abuse.
I know the sort of Christians you are talking about. And I deplore that sort of person, be it Christian or pagan or Texan or whatever.
But I think you are missing something in your judgement of those who love and serve God. We are not grovelling. We don't blame God for our troubles. We take responsibility for the shit we cause ourselves, and don't go whining about it. We take the shit life hands us and make something out of it. And hopefully we don't act like shits all week. And if for some stupid reason we do, we know that we'll have to take the natural consequences of our actions. And we take them, and move on, and we don't keep beating ourselves up over it.
Real Christianity is all about standing up straight and quitting the whining. I'm not saying that there aren't a whole shitload of people out there by the name of Christian who whine and wallow all their lives long, but just because they call themselves something doesn't mean they are that thing.
I would like to ask you something. Are you really complete in yourself? Do you never find that you are missing something you need? Do you really think that there is any strength in denying your own weakness? We all have weaknesses. It's part of being human. I assume you are not exempt from this. There is no weakness in accepting help when needed. It shows intelligence, wisdom, and maturity. If God can help me with my weaknesses, why should I not accept that help?
And about bowing, it is different from grovelling. I do not grovel before God. But I do admit his superiority. There is no grovelling in that. It is merely facing the facts. Yet I can still stand tall and believe in my own strength and worth.
Something that is unbendable is often easily broken.
I bow before my King, but I stand unbowed before my enemies. Or at least that is my goal.
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Can we pause for a moment, and take out our goth as fuck dictionaries?
by Comedian (comedian@callatg.com)
on Jul 28, 2001 - 10:07 AM
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The Random House College Dictionary
Bow-- 9. to be excessively polite or deferential. 10. an inclination of the head or body, as in submission, salutation, or acknowledgement.
Un-- a prefix meaning "not", or as per a revrsal of state of an object
Unbowed-- not bowed or bent. Not yeilding or submitting, as to defeat. Not subjugated.
The problem comes when you attach this word to a concept-- a form of rebellion. 'Unbowed' obviously means not to fly with the crowd, or to bend to any conformity, correct? But when you walk around with a label that says, 'Unbowed,' who is the one conforming? Who is falling in for a mob mentality?
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BOWED Is Goth as FUCK??
by Arthegarn on Aug 08, 2001 - 09:37 AM
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You know, Nighside, I think I agree with you.
At least with the original theme. I believe that a characteristic of the goth culture is an attitude of extreme pride in one and one's achievements. Perhaps pride is not the best word, but I can find no other to translate "orgullo". A Goth walks the road of life with a tall head, caring nothing about people who do not prove themselves to hir. That does not mean s/he despises everyone, s/he just does not care about most people or their opinions. In dubio pro reo is not Gothic. if you want to be considered an equal prove yourself, because I am sick of mediocrity. And just because goths tend to consider others as under them, they (we) also tend to consider what uses to be above them at their stature at most. Goth relations with the Government, Church or even God (when there are any) are on an equal-to-equal basis. Unbowed is definitely goth, I agree.
Now, I also think there is a great deal of romanticism in bowing to some things... but just because you choose to bow before them. Death, for instance, as the ultimate equalizer. I bow to Death because it is bigger and larger than me and I can never defeat her. I also choose to bow before my God, because i am free and I choose to do it, not because I am forced by stupidity or tradition. And to beauty, poetry, and some people who are really exceptional individuals, or rather to parts of them, who I take as living examples of reaching aspects of themselves I also want to reach. Notice that I don't want to say I take them as role models because that usually implies trying to become that person and not you, and what I want to do is to be like that person is in this or that aspect (Detritus, for instance, a friend of mine who is an artist and creates amazing works, but whose rest of character I donot share nor find admirable).
I think Goth is knowing where you stand without fear. No fear to say you are better than this or that, and no fear to say that you'd like to improve yourself to reach where that or that reaches. Knowing what is petty and what is grand, and knowing where to bow. So, Bowed can, in some aspects, be "as goth as fuck", too.
Well. I think.
Oh, by the way I also hate these people who call themselves christians and then live with hypocresy in their hearts... but remember that, just as we said that there are a few of true goths and a lot of posers, there are also a few christians and a lot of posers.
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