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Articles: Pharmacological Oppression |
Posted by
IamSquid on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 04:12 AM PST
The other day, a friend and I were talking over IM and she told mee she was thinking about taking a medication to relieve her anxiety that a friend of hers reccomended. I looked it up online and it turned out to be an MAOI (which I will address in a moment) and that it's side-effects include among other things, loss of equilibrium, difficulty sleeping, interactions with alcohol and caffine, and comes with a warning that one should not opperate heavy machinery or motor vehicles for the first few weeks while taking this medication.
For those of yoo who don't know what MAO inhibitors are, I will give a brief explanation: Monoamine oxide is a neurotransmitter which makes people assertive and less prone to influence or suggestion. Inhibiting MAO thus effectivly turns people into sheep! Prozac is the best known example of a MAOI. Wellbutrin which is also marketed as a mircale cure for quitting smoking unde rthe name Zyban is another example.
I told her that I realize she has terrible panic attacks but drugs or at least specificly THIS drug is not the answer to her problems and that perhaps she shoould try hypnotherpey, biofeedback, or just good old fashioned talk therepy as I seriously doubt she has a chemical imbalance (which is the only scenario in which I can see MAOIs not being detrimental).
Then last night I heard about this which I will summarize here:
A father in New Mexico noticed that his son who suffers from ADHD was unable to sleep at night, had no appetite and for lack of a better term is tweeking, symptoms that he recognised as possibly attributed to the drug ritalin which his hyeractive son was taking. He decided ritalin was inappropriate for his son so he took him off medication. The school board learned of this and notified child protective services who confronted the man, telling him that he would either put his child back on the drug or be charged with child abuse. The man refused and now faces charges.
The first thing I thought of when I heard about this was "How the fuck is this Constitutional?" Honestly, I can't think of any part of the Bill of Rights which bans a requirment for citizens to take medication because the government says they "need" it. Based on the information given I get the impression that he is not only NOT being neglectful, but that he is in fact very adamantly concerned for his child's well-being even in the face of possible conviction!
The first story suggests to mee that people in the United States are buying in to the idea that being "normal" is as simple as popping pills and that the drug companies are almost certainly behind this. The second story tells mee that it is no longer simply a matter of corporations trying to push their product, now the government has taken an interst in this for the purpose of controlling the masses.
Maybe I'm just paranoid but then, I was raised on ritalin myself as a child...
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Re: Pharmacological Oppression
by Ironboots on Jun 10, 2004 - 08:16 AM
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http://rangerjacket.tripod.com
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http://www.prozacspotlight.org/
That site talks alot about MAOI's and what they can do to a person like making them. Prozac can really tweak you out, causing agitation and even suicidal tendencies.
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Re: Pharmacological Oppression
by Domkitten (saradevil@saradevil.com)
on Jun 10, 2004 - 11:15 AM
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As an interesting note a lot of medication issued to asthmatics is usually MAOI based.
Also, it is getting harder and harder to find good talk therapy in the US. You have to do a pretty good search to find a talk therapist, and then when you do you can expect to pay a lot more for the privilege.
The last however, bothers me the most. The school board nor child protective services should have any right to decided that a parent should or should not put their child on medication. I’m sure this is almost certainly unconstitutional and will probably result in a victory for the gentleman in question. Aside from other groups, I’m sure that the Jehovah’s would not stand for something like this for religious reasons, and certainly the ACLU won’t let it go unnoticed.
However, more interesting than all of that is the diagnosis of ADHD itself. Check out the list of symptoms for ADHD from the American Psychiatric Association at http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/symptom.htm.
Now, after that tell me how this is not simply a diagnosis of “childhood”. Children are supposed to be over-zealous, creative, energetic, attention hungry, curious, and irresponsible. That’s why they are children. Most of the problems that ADHD are symptoms of have a single cause: television.
Less T.V. more physical activity, all the sudden children are less hyperactive. Kids don’t need drugs, they need attention and parents who are more in tune to their needs.
The same goes for adults. More often then not, panic, and anxiety are results of needs going unfulfilled or unsatisfied. How much easier it is from a governmental and regulatory standpoint to have the population popping pills rather than asking questions and trying to figure out where the anxiety comes from.
Where does a great deal of anxiety and fear in adults come from: t.v. in particular the national media and our dear president shrub junior. Listen to his speeches, “be on alert, we must be vigilant, national security level is orange, al queda is planning attacks it could happen anytime, we are at war with an enemy we cannot classify, see or name, but he wants to get you.” When enough of that gets fed into the mind it becomes a subconscious root for anxiety and panic. Add that to the pressures of day to day life, and you have an anxious and depressed population on your hands looking for an answer.
And pills are the perfect answer, perfect for everyone, including our dear leaders who line their pockets with money from pharmaceutical companies all the time.
In other words, be paranoid, because they are coming to get you.
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Re: Pharmacological Oppression
by Andree on Jun 10, 2004 - 10:58 PM
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I remember when I was around thirteen, I found out there was such a thing as antidepressants. Next thing I knew there were ads everywhere . . . do you have feelings of hopelssness? Well yeah, everyone does. We wait a while, cry a bit, get over it. It's how we grow emotionally. (And thanks, insurance, for paying for unnecessary drugs but not for braces.)
But drugs aren't the only way people deal with not wanting to deal. Ever seen codependency? Broken people should not feed off of other people. Using a relationship as a heal-all is as bad a using a pill to shove your problems even further inside. People need to learn to fix themselves before they try to fix other people, and before they bring someone else into their mess.
And then there's always non-prescription drugs, shoot. If you're gonna dope up to avoid your problems, at least let your bastard insurance pay for it..
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Re: Pharmacological Oppression
by Andree on Jun 10, 2004 - 11:08 PM
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And the funny thing is the ad for Wellbutrin at the bottom of the page. So not only is the government interested in influencing the masses; the Internet is too. Which could mean that the Internet is run by the government. It's a conspiracy! Where's my tinfoil?
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Re: Pharmacological Oppression
by gothicmorman (litty_klj@hotmail.com)
on Jun 10, 2004 - 11:23 PM
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as my esteemed Comparative Civilizations teacher once said "Plop plop fizz fizz, OH what a relief it is!" she was commenting on how the medical componant of society was heading these days... sometimes it seems like the best counselling you can find is in online forums... at least that is what i find....
the ruthless
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One Pill Makes You Larger...
by Monolycus on Jun 17, 2004 - 12:20 AM
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Interesting observations, you subversive cephalopod. The answer is, of course, all of the above and then some for good apothecary's measure. Since the 1950's, people (primarily Americans) have been buying deeply into what is known as the "pharmaecological paradigm"... that is to say, there is nothing about you that can't be specifically altered without the right chemical additive and with no other effect upon the individual's biostasis. Rubbish, of course. But for everyone who thinks that the solution to each and every headache that life has to offer is 500 mg of the analgesic of their choice without any consideration about what caused the headache in the first place, the pharmaceutical industry tightens their death grip upon the hearts, minds and gonads of the rest of the world.
Here's something I never quite got: These wealthy, wealthy people who promote and benefit from the pharmaecological paradigm are, almost exclusively, rabid, right wing, conservative Christians. Now somebody tell me how it is that endorsing the point of view that everything about you (physically, psychologically, emotionally, et cetera) can be changed by regulating the chemicals bouncing off of your proprioceptors is compatible with being overtly theological? Let's dumb this down: If who you are is nothing more than your chemical makeup, then how can you be held accountable for your actions in a spiritual sense? Do you really think a just and fair diety will sentence you to damnation because you had a few too many parts per million of lithium floating around your physical form? I'm not surprised by this hypocrisy... Senator Frist makes his money simultaneously from his cardiology drive-thrus and investments in doughnut franchises (work that one out and get back to me). If this seems to be a compatible position to you, I would check out my municipal water supply to see how much flouride you're taking in on a daily basis.
~M.
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Re: Pharmacological Oppression
by Kira (mod_complex-at-hotmail.com)
on Jun 17, 2004 - 12:07 PM
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A few years ago I started getting really depressed. It got worse and worse every month until I would just sit on the couch, and a potato chip commerical would come on and I would start bawling. About the time I started thinking jumping out the window sounded nice (with no cause whatsoever) I started doing some research.
Turns out, the birth control pill they stuck me on listed severe depression as a side effect. Not that they mentioned this to me AT ALL when they prescribed it. They made it sound harmless as candy. Here, for months I thought I was having a nervous breakdown and/or losing my mind. All because my doc couldn't be bothered to take the time to warn me of the side effects.
What's really hilarious was their solution; put me on anti-depressants! My solution was to find a new gyn. and switch pills until I found one that worked.
What a fucked up mentality. You have a problem caused by a pill we're giving you, so let's give you more pills to "fix" it, probably causing other problems, more pills, and so on.
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Re: Pharmacological Oppression
by spydr on Jan 17, 2005 - 02:14 PM
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It is fact is not constitutional and goes against a parents right to choose what is best for his or her child. Many times anitbiotics are prescribed but are not finished, to the detriment....
In fact if I were a parent I would take serious issue with this and with CPS. I do think however that before removing a child from any drug you need to talk to your primary physician so you can monitor post behavior.
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