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Politics: The Ten Commandments |
Posted by
ariadne on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 05:07 AM PST
Here in Alabama there has been a waste of christian outrage concerning a monument of the ten commandments. While christians camped out in protest at the Montgomery judicial building, a little girl went missing on her way to a school bus stop. The latter did not make the headlines and the little girl is still missing to this day, probably dead by now. What is my point?
I do not see how protecting such a monument was productive. One protester was screaming as the monument was rolled away, "Get your hands off our God". What the hell is that?
Now the christians of Alabama are screaming "discrimination" and "persecution". This thing known as "Doing the Work of the Lord" sickens me. I cannot fathom how protecting an image made of stone is worthy of any sort of outrage. Many of these protesters were camped out crying and praying and I cannot understand why.
I see value in all religions even christianity but these kinds of christians I find annoying. I would think that going out and helping those in need or helping the missing girl's parents would have been actively making a difference and showing what "God's Work" truly means. For sane christians out there, this is not the way to win people to Christ.
Christ? Didn't he state something in the bible about praying in public? I believe it was something about praying in private. Oh well.
Moving along, there is a failure to see the importance of the separation of church and state by many christian organizations. If it was allowed for christian monuments to be placed in front of a judicial building what does that say to the non-christian in search of justice? If christian idols were posted in front of government buildings and children were forced to pray in school we would live in a country that would be intolerant of other beliefs.
The separation of church and state is imperative for those of us who are not christian to feel free to live and worship without fear of discrimination or persecution.
It appears that many christian fundamentalists are so aggressive in their intolerance of other faiths without an understanding that "all the Gods are one" and that "the lamp may be different but the light is the same." Once certain christians get to this point they may finally be perceived in a better light. They might even be understood to be possessors of a legitimate faith. Until this happens, they will continue to frighten many of us "sinners" away.
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Re: The Ten Commandments
by Meranda_Jade (Meranda@mymind.com)
on Nov 11, 2003 - 07:26 AM
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MAT 06:05 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for
they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the
streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their
reward.
MAT 06:06 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou
hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father
which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
There you go. I just love it when the hypocritical christians disobey their own book. There's also something about not worshipping idols as well, which I think this falls under.
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Re: The Ten Commandments
by Anya on Nov 11, 2003 - 07:38 AM
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That's funny. In the Bible, there's many speakings against idolatry. A lot of Southern Baptists I know of jab at Catholics for "idolatry", which to them is having statues of Yeshua and Mary. Now they go off claiming that the statue is their God? Isn't that idolatry in itself? Oh well.
I do not understand how the situation is persecution and discrimination. For one, they can still practice their religion and still probably get away with denouncing other religions (could be wrong, just my experience in the South). I mean you don't see many cases of people making an issue of tearing down Buddhist or Shinto statues in the minor places that they're at in North America.
As Arthegarn told me many times: fanaticism is evil.
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Re: The Ten Commandments
by Comedian (eccentrically_long@yahoo.com)
on Nov 11, 2003 - 09:16 AM
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I'd rather see one false god in a courtroom than no god at all. The danger is in not having at least some kind of coda.
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Re: The Ten Commandments
by feralucce (Iwouldliketokillyou@gofuckyourself.com)
on Nov 11, 2003 - 10:54 AM
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I honestly, do not blame them... they have had a tribute to their beliefs in place for the last 100 years... now they are told that they cannot. This is not a case of "no you cannot build it." it is a case of, "This tribute must be removed." while, essentially, the same thing... there is a massive emotional difference. I wold be angry in a simialy situation. And I might make a huge deal of it as well.
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Re: The Ten Commandments
by Xaoswolf (Xaoswolfatvzavenuedotnet)
on Nov 11, 2003 - 07:53 PM
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OK, Nuts aside, the monument should have stayed.
For a couple reasons. One being that it was a monument to a code of lancient law, put in a building of law.
Another being, that you did not have to pray before it when you went to trial, you didn't have to do any special type of ceremony upon passing it. It was simply a statue, nothing more, nothing less. If a pagan went to court there, he shouldn't feel as though he wouldn't get a fair trial because the judge shouldn't ask anything about his religion in the first place.
Also, now that they removed the Christian monument, are they going to be removing the statue of Venus in front of the courthouse?
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Re: Seperation of Church and State?
by Domkitten (saradevil@saradevil.com)
on Nov 11, 2003 - 11:43 PM
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Fact of the matter is it's much easier to move stones tan to actually remove the big G god from the courts.
You will still:
Swear on the Bible
Promise to tell the truth so help you God
be Judged fairly or unfairly
Stones are symbols that can easily be taken out. But Congress, one of the most important law making assemblies in the world still begins each session with a prayer. You can get God out of schools, and you can take the monuments off of steps, but you will have a very hard time really removing the big G from the courtroom or the lawmakers period.
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Re: The Ten Commandments
by Shepardshadows (shepardshadows@moomia.com)
on Nov 14, 2003 - 01:55 AM
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One of the many reason I shall remain, as always, a devout athiest.
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