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Preach: Messianic Existentialism
Posted by IamSquid on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 01:10 PM PST

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Once upon a time, the human race was one with Nature and the Universe. We had everything we could ever really want and yet, somehow it wasn't enough. We had to have more. So we left Paradise to create a world of microwave ovens and barcodes. The Fruit of Free Will is the ungrateful malignance that blemishes the face of the Earth. We are so casual in our defiance of what really matters. The idea of building a missile for the purpose of conquering a cache of a limited, inefficient fuel that destroys our only home is tolerated because it connivances our lives full of microwave ovens packaged in barcodes and assembled by slaves.

People would easily kill or ruin one another for a sleight increase in profit, and these are the people I'm here to save. It sickens mee to see people I share common genes with unleash lawyers upon one another in order to seize their dead father's estate. It sickens mee that the world I'm trying to save would rather crucify mee than listen to what I have to say.

It doesn't bother mee that no one believes in mee. It doesn't stir mee that in all likelihood I'll be whining like this until something comes along and stops mee. It's not unsettling that I will in all probability have to die in order to get anyone's attention. What bugs mee is the thought that I may not make any difference whatsoever, just like my predecessor. I wonder if he hated the human race just as I do.


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Re: Messianic Existentialism
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
on Dec 20, 2002 - 05:07 PM
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Well, see the thing is the poor sap in question was worse off than you...he CARED about the human race..to his own detriment.
Man, someone should have a serious talk with whatever voice was in his head...messin with a poor woodworking schitzopherenic like that...sheesh. The NERVE.

Just be glad that you have the good sense to know the true nature of the beast...and to not EVER turn your back on it. To do so would be as foolish to turn your back on the tricky ocean....never know when it's gonna come from behind and sweep you away, even in the shallows.


The Obolisk is Divine. Mmm-yes.
by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com)
on Dec 20, 2002 - 10:06 PM
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Cashmere and I would simply say the following. "Fuck em'. Wait until after the Apocalypse."


Isis Mourning
by Monolycus on Dec 20, 2002 - 11:09 PM
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"What bugs mee is the thought that I may not make any difference whatsoever..."

Aye, there's the rub. And I hate to be the one to break this to you, but dying isn't going to get anyone's attention either. Wanted you to hear this from a friend. Ted Kazcynski thought that making other people die was the only way to get people's attention... he did, but nobody listened to what he actually had to say. He remained in everyone's consciousness just long enough to make a historical footnote of himself in a trivial pursuit game. People kill and die all the time in hopeless attempts to get people to stop what they are doing and think things through... and it never, ever works.

Come to terms with the fact that you are not going to, can not, save the masses. They refuse to be saved and they will take as many with them as they are able. To paraphrase one of the masters: there's no hope for the Clueless. They will fight tooth and nail to fulfill all of their awful prophecies under the banner of the Sons of Fenris and never a rational thought will make the first bit of difference to them.

Now...

You can be very upset by the fact that the majority have doomed themselves and not see any hope here or...

You can realise that there is a compromise between saving everybody and saving anybody. Just because you can not deliver the world does not mean that you can not make a difference. It is the burden of the bodhisattva to recognise their limitations. Making a difference in the lives of the willing, the few, even one other is making a difference. And sometimes that is all you can do.

Take heart, my messianic cephalopod... there is work yet for you to do. Do not be disheartened by numbers... remember that as above, so below. If you can save one reproductive pair, you can save a species. Set your sights a little lower and you can accomplish everything. I am, I was, I will be

~Monolycus.


Re: Messianic Existentialism
by Dolorosa (SixOfSwords@IU.zzn.com)
on Dec 22, 2002 - 09:16 AM
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Ever just want to break it all?
I mean, shit...everyones sitting around WAITING for things to change...fuck that, I say we kick-start ragnarok.
It'd be nice to go back...way back.
I don't hate the human race myself...not really...come to think of it, I don't hate Tse-tse flies either...not really.


Re: Messianic Existentialism
by callei on Dec 22, 2002 - 12:02 PM
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And other people's stupidity bothers you? How stupid is it to try to change the reality of so many other people, especially when that reality works for them? How stupid is it to try to judge others by your own inner twangy plastic ruler to see if they measure up to your day dreams of perfection?

How many miles have you walked in thier (either collectivly or individually) shoes to make you an expert on thier blindness? Everybody's actions make sense in thier reality, flow logically from the last action, and are moving them toward thier eventual goal. You may not understand why a business man of 50 needs to wear a dress on alternating Saturday afternoons, or what drives a political martyr to set themselves on fire, or why a toddler wants to play with a bag of rice, but that is your blindness, your lack of understanding, that makes thier actions and goal so strange and incomprehensable. Thier actions are guided by thier pasts (that you dont know), thier present (that you also dont know or understand), thier curiosity, thier hopes for the future, there justification of past beliefs and attempts to create new beliefs, and thier joy. It is where thier free will takes them and that is beautiful.

And you want to take that away, make thier past dreams, actions, loves, hates, beliefs, and self knowledge a lie so that they can more perfectly fit into your reality of one dimentional audience members trained to clap when the red light goes on? That seems awfully childish to me. Especially if you are threatening to take your ball and go home if they wont play your way....

The messia fantasy is like all other sociopathic fantasies in that the person in the center of the dilusion cannot perceive other people to be 'real' and sees them rather as wall paper or obsticals. That narrowness of perception, that inablility to see the trees in the forest, is what makes them both laughable and dangerous to others. laughable because their very narrowness causes them, through the same actions as other people, to develope strange and funny ideas about the world and thier place in it, and dangerous because, unlike most of us that believe they are real and thereby put more love and acknowledgement out at them, they are black holes that suck in the everyday mana that others create blackening the world and damning it with thier lack of aknowledgement.


Re: Messianic Existentialism
by feralucce on Dec 24, 2002 - 06:16 AM
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where was your star? *snickers* belief... is almost always based on some kind of fact...


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