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Drama: Tragic fatal flaws
Posted by Anonymous-Coward on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 04:38 PM PST

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I’ve been lurking here a while and still haven’t signed up with a name, but I’ve read just about every article, and talked to a lot of you on messengers. I was just thinking about how my anonymity makes me the perfect person to point out all of the ironic tragic flaws in each of you. I know I risk being a troll here, so let me assure you right up front that there is no malice. I know the inevitable flaming will be vicious and I am ready for it. I have my flame retardant underwear on, and I will be laughing at the irony rather than cringing no matter how biting your comments. Shall we get started? A Tragic Flaw is a literary device used to make a larger than life character seem more sympathetic and real. The fact that a person has one should flatter them. Being larger than life is goth as fuck. And as for me pointing them out – keep in mind that only a friend will tell you when you’ve got something between your teeth.

I actually started with Devin, callei and ickgirl, but decided that would make it seem like I’m attacking this site (for those who are going to see this as an attack - which it is not), so I’ve bumped them down a few. So in no particular order otherwise, here we go.

Bettie_x – wants to be seen as hard, mean and wicked while living the most normal and socially acceptable lifestyle possible.

Alugarde – Doesn’t quite understand that other people don’t bond as quickly as he does. It takes time to make friends. A person who expects them instantly will make people push you away rather than get closer.

Cashmere – Way too old to be stuck in such a young body. Poor girl.

Closetgothbabe – lets boredom get the better of her and lower her standards – Plays down all of her cool parts to fit in with people who aren’t as good as she is, and ends up not meeting the cool people because of it.

Callei – Arrogant and Vain. If anyone else were this arrogant and vain everyone would hate them. Fortunately for callei, everything she thinks about how great she is is absolutely true. But arrogance and vanity are still flaws. Being so cool it creates flaws is ironic don’t ya think?

Comedian – right at the age where people think they know everything. Also right at the age where people try to break away from their families and get out on their own, but aren’t quite there yet. This is a pretty dangerous combination if you think about it.

Rae – Scorpio temper all the way. It’s a good thing her heart’s made out of gold or it would get incinerated by those flare ups. Be careful though, gold has a lower melting point than most metals.

Poison – tries not to care about anything but secretly does – tries not to get attached to people but secretly does. Shhhh…

Sindel – Typical Capricorn – comes off as arrogant and narcissistic and pretends not to care what anyone thinks, and not to need anyone’s approval, but secretly would die without that approval, so she tries to get it any way she can. The irony is – it’s a good thing she’s cute so she gets that attention, but if she wasn’t cute she probably wouldn’t need it.

Rogue – Rogue can flirt with anyone so well that it’s impossible to tell when he’s serious and when he’s playing. Maybe that’s a Capricorn thing too.

Meranda_Jade – falls in love at the drop of a hat. It can’t be good for you to be in love with EVERYBODY.

Litho – her problem is that she’s too young to have listened to the smiths extensively. “Shyness is nice, but… Shyness can stop you – from doing all those things in life you’d like to”

Ickgirl – How can a Sagittarius have that Pisces detachment? Whenever things get too intense for a Pisces, they change the subject and hide – It keeps them from getting wounded, but it’s impossible to get close to them. Sagittarius’s are supposed to be fine with intensity not hide. Weird

Dolorosa – Where to even start – you’re a piece of work boy. You’re way too brilliant to exist in this world, and I guess you deal with it how you can, but they’ve really done a number on you.

Morte_ascendo – likes to be around people more brilliant and amazing than himself. This isn’t really a flaw, I kinda wish more people wanted to be around those that are smarter than then – but it’s all I could come up with cause he’s such a nice guy.

Vampcourt – How’s that east coast attitude workin for you on the west coast girl? They do things a little differently out there don’t they?

Devin – Leo with a Sagittarius rising and cancer moon – that sums it up. Poor guy. He gets way too attached to people for his lifestyle and lovestyle – the Leo attention thing, and the Sagittarius eccentricity does not go well with the cancer attachment. Tragic.

Shade – doesn’t seem to have any flaws at all. This worries me. A lot.

Mara – wants to be things she is not – and is things she doesn’t want to be. Shame she doesn’t want to be all her cool things.

Necromancer – Does not learn her lessons quick enough and tries to make other people happy at her own expense. Those 2 end up feeding each other and making it seem like she has no choices. It’s hard to be happy that way.

Arthegarn – This one is obvious – way too old fashioned for the world he is living in. Things don’t work that way in this century – but it’s cute that he tries.

Schizo – can’t learn from other people’s mistakes – has to make her own.

Sticcipus – sex isn’t everything kiddo.

MistressRavenDarque04 – You’ve had a very sheltered life and I’m not sure you’re ready for the world you seem to be wanting to dive into.

Ianthe99 – Just needs some suitable toys, but can’t find them because her standards are too high.

Feralucce – You’re a pisces. You gotta quit trying to act like a scorpio. It’s not natural and doesn’t suit you.

Monolycus – People are not out to get you – there are no spy satellites reading your brainwaves. You can take the tin foil off of your head. Really.

Gothvail – It’s a good thing you’ve got someone to make your decisions for you.

Kat_vamp – There is much more to life than “the Scene” – experimentation and boundary pushing might be a good idea, but don’t push the usual boundaries – find new ones.

IamSquid – If a squid eats too much he can give himself brain damage.

ThatOneWastedChick – Too brilliant to be 13, but still has the hormones. It’s too bad people can’t learn to pay attention to when they’re being brilliant and when their hormones are talking and making them sound young. It must be hard to tell the difference from the inside.

BlueLinn – Why present yourself as average? You’re not fooling anybody. (Yes, pretending you are crazier than you are is average). It’s ok to be a little out of the ordinary – if anyone doesn’t approve, just blame it on being an artist.

Psychopixi – happy happy perky happy bounce bounce happy cheek-pinch bounce perk perk – If you ever decide to sell your batteries, I want to bid on them – until then, don’t expect anyone to keep up.

Kira – easily distracted and… wait what was I saying?

Mutant_Duckie – Real Klingons have no silly side.

Biko – Face it. There are prettier kitties. No really, there are.





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Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Devin (devin-at-vibechild-dot-com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 04:46 PM
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Grrrr - fucker nailed me. Exactly.... I feel kinda - um... stalked...

Ok, whoever you are, sign up with a name and send me a note so I can attribute this to you and we can start pummelling you properly.


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Comedian (eccentrically_long@yahoo.com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 05:44 PM
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What's the line in Latin?

"de omni re scibili et quibusdam aliis."


No offense, but...
by Monolycus on Nov 25, 2002 - 06:20 PM
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Why, of course there are no spy satellites. That would just be silly. Those kinds of things don't happen in the real world.

Anyway, if I had a flaw, I would say it is that I am just too forgiving for my own good. If I had a flaw, mind you.

Really.

~Monolycus.


riiiiight...
by VampCourt (Morbidchic@hotmail.com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 08:07 PM
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well thats fantastic, your a stalker.


No clue who you are, nore do i really care. im glad to see your bored enough to keep up with my life.... thats nice and scary.

you need a life dude. big time.


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 08:07 PM
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you left yourself out kiddo. No mirror casts a perfect reflection.
I sort of agree with your asessment in a half assed sort of way.
As for trying to be seen as hard, mean and wicked *lol*....most of my life has been spent working AROUND and THROUGH that, not enhancing it!
Ask my family, ask my friends, ask my co-workers.
And on the "leading as socially acceptable life as possible" bit.....I don't really care if it is or not, I do what makes me happy and content, and if it turns out to be boring or "socially acceptable" it is done without effort. I'll be the first to admit my life is boring...I keep it that way for a reason, but unfortunately I dont' always get my way and have a nice, easy, socially acceptable and quiet life.

I think before you cast judgment on others lives and personalities, get to know them first. The internet makes people brave, stupid, and brash, and it's always hard to tell who is really who. Most of the time you can't even tell what gender the other person is.

I can point out my own flaws...how 'bout you?

I agree with devin...post your name so the pummeling shall be done properly.


riiight part 2
by VampCourt (Morbidchic@hotmail.com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 08:25 PM
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Oh.. and by the way mr/mrs/miss iihide-behind-a-screen-and-i-cant-say-who-i-am-because-i-dont-want-any-ridicule myself-because-it-seems-i-have-a-complex-for-it,

as for your comment about me.. you dont know SHIT about me... let me indulge your freakish obsession, yes i moved here from the east coast, and my attitude is WONDERFUL and BUETIFUL and i LOVE me. TRA LA LA!! and actually... they dont do anything diffrent than anywhere else..

So ring-a-ding ding, you dont have any shit on me to fling...

im guessing your just a very sad person who has been rejected so much by people that you needed to stalk people and try to attempt to pick them apart because its what -your- used to.

SIMMAH DAHN NAH!! im sure if you actaully just talked with us for real with out doing this.. you would find out our REAL colorfulselves instead of trying to find the bad in all of us.

but then again.. maybe thats to much for you to handle...


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by callei on Nov 25, 2002 - 08:27 PM
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I prefer the term 'condescending'. Arrogant means that i think i am above others, better somehow, while condescending means that i think i am average and that others are less than average.
and condescention is so much more fun...


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Shade (Shade@Gothcult.com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 08:29 PM
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Be afraid, be very afraid...

Perhaps it's because I came out relatively unscathed, if uninteresting, but I kind of liked it. Seriously though, get yourself a name and give everyone a visible target.


huh?
by Kira (mod_complex@hotmail.com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 09:36 PM
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O mysterious stranger, I admit that I am surprised to find my name on your list.

Distracted? Perhaps. But then again, I am a busy girl. Too busy to lurk on a site for hours only to formulate clever little jabs at everyone. I hate to say it, but I have flaws wayyyy more tragic than being a bit of a space cadet now and then.

You know, my grandmother used to say "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all." Then again, my other grandmother used to say "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke." Find the cross somewhere between those two attitudes and you will get on just fine here.


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Comedian (eccentrically_long@yahoo.com)
on Nov 25, 2002 - 11:33 PM
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"I’ve been lurking here a while and still haven’t signed up with a name, but I’ve read just about every article, and talked to a lot of you on messengers. I was just thinking about how my anonymity makes me the perfect person to point out all of the ironic tragic flaws in each of you. I know I risk being a troll here, so let me assure you right up front that there is no malice. I know the inevitable flaming will be vicious and I am ready for it. I have my flame retardant underwear on, and I will be laughing at the irony rather than cringing no matter how biting your comments. Shall we get started?

A Tragic Flaw is a literary device used to make a larger than life character seem more sympathetic and real. The fact that a person has one should flatter them. Being larger than life is goth as fuck. And as for me pointing them out – keep in mind that only a friend will tell you when you’ve got something between your teeth.

I actually started with Devin, callei and ickgirl, but decided that would make it seem like I’m attacking this site (for those who are going to see this as an attack - which it is not), so I’ve bumped them down a few. So in no particular order otherwise, here we go."

The last person to contact me from this site whom I did not know or wind up developing a conversation and kind of demented relationship with, was this person:

--------------------------------------
ICQ History Log For:
111865907 God's scapegoaT
Started on Fri Jul 20 11:50:59 2001
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God's 7/20/01 9:58 AM hey

Comedian 7/20/01 9:58 AM yo

God's 7/20/01 9:58 AM sup? u r the 1 from the goth site or somethin?

Comedian 7/20/01 9:59 AM which site?

God's 7/20/01 10:00 AM dunno cuz i don't remember where have i added u from.. nevermind. where r u from?

God's 7/20/01 10:01 AM its just there was gothic site that i added ppl from there so i though it may be u.. r u goth?

Comedian 7/20/01 10:01 AM Why, son, I'm from Alaska. Didn't you read mah profile, boy?

Comedian 7/20/01 10:04 AM No son, there are no Goths in Alaska. We sleep with sheep dogs and wear heavy leather clothing. I don't think that counts as gothic, but you may consider differently. And we all are quite pale from being inside all the time, 'cause The nasty weather gives us excessive penile shrinkage.

God's 7/20/01 10:10 AM really?? u from alaska? cool i wish there be cold now in this israhell

God's 7/20/01 10:11 AM we're dying here and u can't even go 2 the sea, it's full of jelly fish...


Comedian 7/20/01 10:13 AM but it's so cold and nice in Alaska. And the sea in alaska is full of sperm whale semen. Would you like to come to Alaska and stay with me for a few weeks? I think you would be comfortable, because the warmest place here is IN MY PANTS! WHooOO-WAAAA! OH YEAH! COME AND FEEL THE BURLY ALASKAN MAN LUVIN' I'M GUNNA IMPART TO YOUR BODILY CAVITIES!

God's 7/20/01 10:15 AM yea really funny

Comedian 7/20/01 10:16 AM I'm not jokin', boy. SALE ON MANWICHES IN AISLE ASS-LUV! I'VE GOT MORE BODY HAIR THAN AN ITALIAN CHIA PET! COME FEEL MY FUR AND BEAR-LIKE LUVIN, YOU SASSY LITTLE THANG, YOU!

That was the last I heard from God's Scapegoat. I do apologize to all Alaskans, people with sever penile shrinkage, chia pets, Italians and homosexuals.


The problem that I have with this thing-- aside from it having at least part of everyone's personality nailed down-- is the ignorant air of it. "Flame-retardant underwear," and you'll be laughing at the irony as we flame you. And call you a troll. The problem with this is that you are flaming us-- or at least our online personas. The character of every per

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Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Alugarde (SoulCiphyr@aol.com)
on Nov 26, 2002 - 01:10 AM
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Um..I'm a pisces. I have the whole pisces detachment thing going. You think I try to make friends too fast? When the random internet mooks that I'm sure everyone has encountered (You know, the ones who message you for no apparent reason other than to say "Hi, I'm soandso, I'm from thatoneplace, what are you up to?") sends me a message, unless they say something interesting in the first 2 or 3 messages, my natural response is "Who the fuck are you and why are you bothering me?". How is that expecting friends too soon?


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Icarus (someone@somewhere.something)
on Nov 26, 2002 - 04:08 AM
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...a bit obsessive about those Signs are we?
I'm a "lurker" and I at least have the (microscopic) balls to give myself a silly nickname to hide behind, get a nick, let them pound you, kiss, make up, buy me a cookie ... :)

tjohei!



Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Closetgothbabe on Nov 26, 2002 - 04:09 AM
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Maybe you are slightly right. I am bored often but that isnt hard for me to get bored. I do have alot of cool and nice friends that are wonderful people. I dont get to see them often cause they live far away. I have what I need which is my best friend (Kel) and she is everything to me whether its cool or not she is a doll (until she gets that bitch streak in her) . I can see what you are saying but I dont think its completly correct. I am one of those people that dont like doing the same thing all the time. I have a variety of friends which is nice cause they are all special in different ways.


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Rogue (Rogue@skew.org)
on Nov 26, 2002 - 06:51 AM
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Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa. Of course, the trick is that I am just as serious as you want me to be, and just as playing as you need me to be. That's the beauty of a deadpan approach with a twist of joking thrown in for flavour. Just like that article about Italian flavoured drinks...


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Meranda_Jade (Meranda@mymind.com)
on Nov 26, 2002 - 06:52 AM
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If whoever this was was paying attention, they'd have noticed that I don't fall in love. That's my tragic flaw. The fact that I do love EVERYBODY... I don't consider a flaw at all...


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by tofu-fetish (seattlebats@earthlink.net)
on Nov 26, 2002 - 09:43 AM
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"Bettie_x – wants to be seen as hard, mean and wicked while living the most normal and socially acceptable lifestyle possible"

Bettie's only real flaw was falling in with Mr. X. Who's says the old lost puppy trick doesn't work anymore? Some may call it the Stockholm Syndrone, but I call it true love.

You try to make it sound like trying to lead a normal life is some kind of cursed cancer. It's not as if we are driving around in SUV's and picking up our twins Brandy and Mandy from soccer pratice. Is that what you mean by normal? If my frau seems like she is hard, wicked, or mean it is only a reaction to this world that is all of things and more.

If you think that calling my wife normal was some kind of dig on her then you couldn't be more wrong.
We had a very normal meeting, a very normal courtship, and a very normal wedding. I would bet someday we will have very normal kids. Very cute little toe heads kids, but normal none the less.
We are very normal people with very normal needs. That doesn't mean she doesn't like to dress up and beat me with a stick, but then again is that really abnormal?

Don't fall into the trap that just because you own every Skinny Puppy album that you owe it to yourself to live a life of wreckless abandon. I find great comfort in knowing each day I will kiss her very normal lips, eat my normal dinner made in our very normal kitchen, and fall asleep each night in her very normal arms.

To me being in love and being loved is the greatest offer life has for us. I'll take normal everyday.


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Ianthe99 on Nov 26, 2002 - 12:30 PM
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Heh heh.. I've found suitable toys.. Now I just need to find the hubby some.. and everything will be peachy.


  • *laugh* by MorteAscendo on Nov 26, 2002 - 05:04 PM
Be seeing you.
by Dolorosa (SixOfSwords@IU.zzn.com)
on Nov 26, 2002 - 06:27 PM
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Agh! Who are THEY!?


Multiple Kats?
by KatB on Nov 27, 2002 - 07:00 AM
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Since Kat_vamp hasn't been active in more than 6 months, I'm _really_ x'ing my fingers for a little mix-up with the Kats here :-)

If so, I'm dying to make a comment!!!

*Holding my breath*


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Psychopixi on Nov 27, 2002 - 09:15 AM
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Like Shade, I found this quite interesting, though it would be nice to know who posted it. *Grinz hopefully* It's great to read, and quite interesting to see your analysis of everyone (whether it's correct or not is another matter) but c'mon, sign up!!!

I'm actually quite surprised I got mentioned, am I really that perky?


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Closetgothbabe on Nov 27, 2002 - 04:54 PM
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Well I can say this much for him/her they got everyones attention. Now you can tell us who you are and I promise we will be nice....*giggles*


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by WorthlessLiar on Nov 27, 2002 - 09:04 PM
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I would have to say that the only real fatal flaws entail suicidal tendencies.


hm...
by AloneSoul (AloneSoul@hurting.com)
on Nov 29, 2002 - 12:25 AM
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Well, I’ll just keep this short and simple.

1) Are you willing to see your own flaws? I am. I’m arrogant, stubborn as hell and sometimes drunk off my own bi-polar depression (to name a few) but I always remember this. “I’ll make weapons out of my imperfections.” (Tool) Can you say the same?

2) Zodiac busts? This is where you find the flaws of others? Give me a break.

3) All these “flawed” people you have so bravely pointed out Bettie_x, Alugarde, Cashmere, Closetgothbabe, Callei, Comedian, Rae, Poison, Sindel, Rogue, Meranda_Jade, Litho, Ickgirl, Dolorosa, Morte_ascendo, Vampcourt, Devin, Shade, Mara, Necromancer, Arthegarn, Schizo, Sticcipus, MistressRavenDarque04, Ianthe99, Feralucce, Monolycus, Gothvail, Kat_vamp, IamSquid, ThatOneWastedChick, BlueLinn, Psychopixi, Kira, Mutant_Duckie and Biko; I call them all my friends and WOULD NOT have them any other way than the way they are.


  • Re: hm... by bettie_x on Nov 29, 2002 - 09:43 PM
  • Re: hm... by MorteAscendo on Nov 29, 2002 - 11:29 PM
  • Re: hm... by AloneSoul on Dec 01, 2002 - 01:06 PM
Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by DarkMistress (shad0wdweller@yahoo.com)
on Nov 30, 2002 - 11:29 AM
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Flaws are another reason to love you all. If you were perfect then you'd be hated.


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com)
on Nov 30, 2002 - 10:13 PM
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Sticcipus – sex isn’t everything kiddo.
Ooooo, I like my flaw, it is sexy. Ok lets dissect- My name Sticupus!! (you fuckers) Now lets say it slowly, STICK U PUSS. Ahhhh that's what it is! Duhhhh (it originally started as a combination of the terms Succubus and Incubus, and Sticupus stuck; besides it sounds dirty when you say it ;D)
Of course sex isn't everything, that is why I am a existentialist into Art, Art history, Quantum physics, and Issac Asimov. I try to grasp existence and myself at the same time. SO WHAT?!
And for your information I am a virgin flower, I'm 18, full of hormones, and pretty; So who cares if I am a little preoccupied with sex? I think that's a byproduct of my existence right now, not a flaw.(Though I love it, if that is a flaw)..
Also, I blame my libido on my very much above average sized cock anyway- I mean if you have to have one to know....
Oh and good job isolating yourself, now we all hate you: you creepy fuck. STOP STOCKING US!


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by Arthegarn on Dec 08, 2002 - 11:36 AM
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Mmmmm... I thought that Quixotic vein in me is what made me "larger than life"... Doing things as they are supposed to be instead as how they are, you know... My tragic fatal flaw would be that when one charges against windmills, one gets hurt no matter how much faith you have in that they are giants because they shoud be giants and are supposed to be giants...

Actually RG is quite a good alter ego... Spending the whole night in a willing and able girl's flat having a fascinating conversation about Unamuno while sacrifying my urges in favor of correction. It really has happened to me. Several times... Now, THAT is tragic


Squid's Tragic Fatal Flaws
by IamSquid (undisclosedgettheaddressfrommeepersonally)
on Dec 10, 2002 - 06:11 AM
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Oh come on, is that really the best yoo could do? I have many personality flaws but the ones that appear online are pretty obvious, I'm suprised yoo didn't bother to mention even one of them.

I am:
egotistical
narcisistic
pretentious
elitist
pompous
a drama-queen
starving for attention
and piss-poor at spelling

Yoo didn't even get the last on the list which is probably the most obvious of any tragic fatal flaw on Shmeng. I would say that alone is sufficent evidence that yoo are projecting rather than doing yor homework and thus discredits everything else yoo've said in this article.


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by feralucce on Jul 11, 2003 - 10:01 PM
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No offense... I act like me... I am a pisces with scorio ascendent, moon, and mars... SO... on behalf of everyone... Lick my left nut... and devins, bettie's calleis, and everyone else's...

At least I ahve the courage to post my bullshit with a name...

Feral


Re: Tragic fatal flaws
by feralucce (Iwouldliketokillyou@gofuckyourself.com)
on Feb 03, 2004 - 06:22 PM
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Also... I think you missed something about me... it has nothing about pretending one sign or another... I am what happens when I pisces is disolussioned... you forgot angry, bitter, loud and opinionated...


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