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| Theories: Something More |
Posted by
Alugarde on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:57 PM PST
I'd like to answer a question, a question that Squid asked me in my last submission. At the time I couldn't give an answer. I'd like to try now. Again.
But (taking from Squid's comments now) what about the cells themselves? The molecular composition of your cells can change any moment in any number of ways. And if cells keep changing, at what point do you stop being you? Can your cells change to such an extent that you are (in essence) someone completely different? Or is there something more?
The obvious answer to me, of course, is that this something more is your soul. But that alone would be too simple an answer. Here's mine.
It is a common concept that energy that permeates all reality. What if an amount of this energy is used to create your surroundings, the reality of a certain place, time, dimension, concept, and so on, but an incredibly larger amount is spent on the creation of your soul?
That would mean that you are more real than reality. In other words, you can influence reality, or rather, your beliefs can. Once again, this is another common concept in some cultures.
So why aren't people walking down the street hurling fireballs at people they don't like? Messiness and legal problems aside, there are different levels of belief. For example saying you believe something but not really meaning it or saying you believe something and wanting to mean it.
You can say you believe something and make yourself think you believe it. And then there is simply believing it.
When society tells you what to think at every turn, you start to just accept things. True belief is a hard thing to come by these days.
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Re: Something More
by IamSquid (AAA@sockmonkeys.net)
on Sep 20, 2002 - 11:50 AM
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WOW!
I forgot all about that. I think that may have even been the 1st comment I posted on Shmeng.
I enjoy yor answer, because it goes beyond physical exsistance. By definition consciousness must constantly be changing. And yet we still identify those former moments of thought as "I"
Such is the beauty of exsistance. We live in hyperspace where the 3 spaces have to play with time. And so all of reality is dancing to the infinite beat of the universe.
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Re: Something More
by Ironboots on Sep 20, 2002 - 01:58 PM
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So are you saying that if we believe in something, that it can be possible?
And by belief, I mean the utmost, no-shadow-of-a-doubt kind. The kind that says "well, of course there are fairies..." because you do not comprehend how there could not be.
That would explain a lot about our world...
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Get Real
by Monolycus on Sep 21, 2002 - 08:08 PM
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Alugarde, there is a great deal to be said for your theory, but one has to play the academic game of defining one's terms before it can be meaningful for very many people. One of the big problems I see arising is your casual use of the word "reality". There are many realities, and they are not interchangeable. For example:
There is an objective reality. This is the "reality" that exists whether anyone is around to hear the tree fall in the forest or not. We have no idea what is or is not going on in this reality because it comes to us through the filters of our senses and is interpreted by our highly individual brains with all of its preconceptions and limitations. Generally, when we talk about things like "eternity" and other phenomena that HAVE to exist but we can not wrap our brains around, we are discussing this reality. This is the most important reality of them all, and the one that we will never "know" anything about.
Secondly, there is what is called a consensus reality. This is the reality that we tend to think of ourselves as living in, and other people needing to get back to when they are getting too far "out there". It is also variable depending upon the culture that is contemplating it. For example, when everyone believes or behaves as if the earth is flat and the center of the Universe, then, for all intents and purposes, the earth is flat and the center of the Universe. The consensus reality is what we use to deal with each other, and it may be thought of as an organism composed of all of our itsy bitsy thoughts (or memes). It can be changed by the introduction of memetic "viruses" (propaganda) or irrefutable facts... but at the end of the day, it is what we must all more or less agree upon in order that we may interact.
Finally, the most easily changed reality is the subjective reality. This is the one we all actually experience and "know"... and each one of us has our own. This reality is very, very subject to our beliefs about it... for example, the placebo effect (healing ourselves because we believe something has happened to mitigate healing when, in fact, nothing has) occurs on this level of reality. It is as "real" as reality can be, and it is highly malleable (since it is almost entirely composed of what we think we know in the first place). The main problem with changing your subjective reality (and the subjective realities of other people) is that people do not, for the most part, know themselves well enough to do it. The ego and the superego reside in the unconsciousness of our subjective realities and often step in to block the changes we would like to make.
Hope this has helped. I am, I was, I will be
a figment,
~Monolycus.
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Re: Something More
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
on Sep 22, 2002 - 11:49 PM
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I"m just content being plain old molecules and radical free agents and electricity, tho a rather miserable concotion of the three than usually.
I construct my own reality by not interacting through the world. If I could work at home, have my groceries delivered, and have someone walk my dog I'd be happy. Happier, albeit, with a surveilance cam and speakerphone, but a girl's gotta start somewhere.
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Re: Something More
by ThatOneWastedChick on Sep 25, 2002 - 02:19 PM
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Yes, it would indeed explain a lot. But, it would also mean I truly believe in almost nothing. But then... I dunno... Nonetheless it's a great article.
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