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Drama: Persistent Stupidity |
Posted by
ickgirl on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 02:21 PM PST
Every single one of you pissy little shits who submitted a photograph claiming it was you when it wasn’t, can kiss my ass! Someone please tell me what it is that is gained by this. So you have poor self esteem, who doesn’t at one point or another? Great, I can appreciate your sad pathetic state. THEN DON’T POST A FUCKING PICTURE! How absolutely disrespectful to everyone on this site, and mostly to Devin. It’s not easy to piss off Devin the Diplomat – WHY should he bother wasting his time with this crap anymore? He shouldn’t have to be the playground teacher. You’ve gone beyond owing him an apology; you owe him the respect of getting fucking LOST! (Unless you have the immediate capability of giving him a blonde and a LOT of chocolate).
I’m not a diplomat, I will name names. sorceress_ly, egnima, and malice_Kay are our most recent offenders, but there have been others in the past. On a site with 400 members and countless visitors, did you really think SOMEONE wouldn’t recognize a photo you stole? If it’s a small world, it’s an even smaller world on the ‘net!
Do we need a test? Something to let us know you’re not a complete fucking MORON? Should we just eliminate the photo gallery altogether? Are people really that pathetic that we can’t even have a photo gallery without having to worry about identity theft and copyright infringement?
If you want to play with us grownups, then I suggest you learn some amount of class. Not everyone is conventionally physically attractive and not everyone on this site is drop-dead gorgeous to everyone who sets eyes upon them.
When it gets down to it, you’re just a brain in a bag to me. And I’m very UNimpressed by how you people have handled yourselves, and THAT my friends, is what makes someone UGLY.
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Note: Had to be done folks. And yes I'm mean, and no I will not apologize. -ickgirl |
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by sorceress_ly (angeldustan@yahoo.com)
on Feb 26, 2002 - 02:31 PM
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I enjoy your use of words... they are true and I will be the first pn to admit, I was wrong, I am sorry.... forgiveness is somthing I would like from you but I'm sure I will not get it
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by Arthegarn on Feb 26, 2002 - 03:09 PM
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Now, just a couple of things. I am always trying to be nice and understanding but:
1) Devin doesn't deserve to get pissed off. He is kind enough as to have created this wonderful site and let us all be part of it, so please don't annoy him anymore
2) Do you know what is goth as fuck? POSTING YOUR OWN PIC IS GOTH AS FUCK. I am short, with a beerbelly, almost bald and definitely not handsome and I posted my own anyway and guess what? Nobody laughed.
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by pAris on Feb 26, 2002 - 03:09 PM
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Good for you! What sucks is that it is ruined for the rest of us. I do not think you are mean - I think you are being fair and possibly not harsh enough. The only pics of other people I uploaded were 2 with friends (that were posted) and one of my grrlfiend (not posted). Maybe we should concentrate on other forms of mental stimulation and conversation anyway.
I for one liked the pic gallery cause it gave me a way to post some artwork and to see others' art and I will miss it and the dialogue which it created. If it returns, hopefully the dumb shites who cheated will learn from their mistakes, or at least reflect upon why they did what they did.
As for trying to be something you're not; well a lot of people do that every day, but you'd think that in a site devoted to being different, people would be able to be themselves for a change.
note to clueless people: don't piss of the dieties of the website you like...ever.
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Screening Idea
by Rae (darkness_embraced1@yahoo.com)
on Feb 26, 2002 - 04:13 PM
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This is sad, sad, sad. Even after a big blow up on the same subject not even a week or two ago. Some people just never learn. *sigh*
Anyways, enough of that... What is more important at that moment is coming up with some sort of screening method that will work effectively. I have a few floating in my head that may or may not work when they are thoroughly analyzed, but it's an attempt none the less.
Possible solution 1: Restrict picture uploads to only the elder members of the board that you know are legit.
Ok, maybe this sounds a bit unfair to other members, but this would not be the first board to implement such measures..or..
Possible Solution 2: Set up administrators that would specifically handle pic screenings. (I would volunteer) and have them take care of this. One way to validate someone's pic would be if they had a website set up with photos of themselves. This way, administrators could go to that website, and send a confirmation email to the email address listed on that site and not validate the pic until confirmation was received back from that website webmaster or webmistress. This won't be a complete catch all, but it would slow it down....or
Possible Solution 3: set up a P.O. Box for members to send their ORIGINAL photographs to. If they want to post thier pics bad enough, what is 34 cents? (oh, and a additional 34 cents with a self stamped addressed envelope to return the photo to)
Well, that is all I have for the moment. Maybe they are something that would work, maybe not..just putting the ideas out there.
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My thoughts...
by VampCourt (Morbidchic@hotmail.com)
on Feb 26, 2002 - 04:39 PM
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I think we need to eliminate the fakers... yes, and i also think that it should be done as devin has suggested only because this is his website after all..
You know, its funny.. how people just post thier pictures.. thier *fake* pictures for exceptance.. are we that bad? that we make people scared to post thier own image?
I dunno.. I never posted my pictures for acceptance.. or for attention.. I posted them for fun.. take em or leave em.. Im a wierd gal.. Its just something fun to do.. I think that these people should relize that its just a website.. a link.. for people to contact and observe other individuals.. not judge them by thier buety.. (which i might add seems to happen alot here.. and that sucks..)
Ickgirl is correct tho', Just post yourself.. and if you cant do it.. then just plain dont.. but dont go and steal peoples images.. thats awful.. thats rape.. thats violation.. would you like someone running around with your face? saying thier you? how would that feel? pretty damn fucking shitty i would tend to think.
I have learned to love myself for who i am. Im no supermodel.. nore would i ever want to be.. i work with what i got and I like what i got.. stop worrying about what others think about how you look and think about you.. coz really thats what it comes down to...
..... a makeover for your selfesteem...
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by Ianthe99 on Feb 26, 2002 - 05:03 PM
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Hmm.. how to screen. Perhaps you need to send more than one pic.. like, one you want posted and one you don't. They have to be completely different tho.. like maybe the one you don't want posted is just a plain old candid shot or something. I don't know. Personally, I don't see how any of the identified fakecakes could stand to stick around. I'd be way to embarrassed by my immaturity and would hide under a rock.
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by Rogue (judenouveau@yahoo.com)
on Feb 26, 2002 - 05:37 PM
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Time to be devil's advocate here, so everybody get out your flame sticks. Has anybody considered relaxing about the whole thing? Of course i agree that one should post one's own pictures unless said picture is understood to be an avatar and not merely pilfered copyrighted material that someone else has worked to create. However, i feel that it is wrong for the non-offenders to swarm like hyenas once an offender has been spotted. Aside from the inconvenience and mild insult of the whole thing, no harm is done and it is really of little to no concern to anyone but Devin. Of course i also agree that our belevolent but severe Deity does not need this degree of anger in his otherwise serene existence, but my suggestion is that he not let this kind of thing get to him or outweigh the positive returns from this site...notably the real pictures of Callei, Tinkerbell, and a few others (you know who you are). Personally, i have better things to do with my time than worry about such things, so if anyone would like to view my image they can just look up "Antonio Banderas" on Google and look all they want.
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Identity theft
by gothvail (vail@gothicamateur.com)
on Feb 26, 2002 - 06:34 PM
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Identity theft is illegal. Now, I know picture stealing is not identity theft, it's just stupidity. It's not illegal, but it won't earn you any friends. You WILL get called on it eventually, either by the person in "your" picture or by someone else. And then you will look stupid. What could possible be so wrong with you that you can't post your own face? I'm not going to be crying for your poor self-esteem, believe me!
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by Shade on Feb 26, 2002 - 07:29 PM
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I have a thought, it would be cheaper than using the us postal nervous and easier than maintaining a personal web gallery. Ickgirl mentioned Rae sending her expired ID in to prove she was who she looked like, what about that? we could send in a scanned copy of our ID with any personal photo's. I'd do it, or at least I will once I get around to plugging the web cam in and getting a picture I like :P
I know some might say we don't all have scanners, and you'd be right, we do, on the other hand have Kinko's (13 cents-ish per scanif you want colour) or the foreign equivelent. if you're worried about Devin or Ick or Callei (or one of the other two or three editors-in-staff/pantheon members) knowing about your personal information...get over it. They're not fucking psycho's they just have strange senses of humour.
Other than that I like the Gallery Devin, I really enjoy Feralucce's Tarot cards, I enjoy getting to put a face to the voice. anyway, that's my two cents...and apparently anyone who wants to know what I look like check out the new Lestat in Queen of the damned. I haven't seen it myself, and I've heard it's sooo bad I'm sure I'll bother until it's out on tape, but I've been getting some wierd mesages from my friends.
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by Anonymous-Coward on Feb 26, 2002 - 09:57 PM
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If anything I'm more than willing to subject myself to being on the 'flame' staff. I know what its like to have your identity stolen. I still deal with it today with lame ass jerks thinking they know me inside and out as someone who was pretending to be who I am.
I'm not ashamed of what I look like. I'm not ashamed of posting my real pics here and I'll admit that I'm not exactly a supermodel but I'm proud of what I am and how I look simply because its ME. If I'm needed or wanted I'll be around. And I doubt that appologies and people saying "Well I know I was wrong" is going to help.
For Sorceress_ly, egnima, and anyone else who did it. I won't say shame on you because that's just like giving a theif a slap on the wrist. If I have the support of the RESPECTABLE people here I have only one thing to say. Pack up your shit and GO. This is just one mistake that NEVER should have been made.
You should have known you'd be caught and you also should have known that what you did is not only illegal but a federal offense. There are LAWS against identity theft and if they choose to do so the people you stole the pictures from CAN press charges against you for Online Fraud.
Again I have to stress I'm just one of the backyard girls that watches and waits for people to mess up and tell them they messed up but really. You being here is doing more damage than good. And I'm ashamed that you ever thought that it took a pretty face to 'get in good' here. I'm far from being beautiful but I like my look and no one, I repeat, no one can get me to change. You were born to be as you are, not anything different unless you alter your look. But that's just vanity and fool pride. I beg forgiveness of Devin and anyone else if I'm stepping out of line but I must digress that under the circumstances. This has gone too far.
Seraphim Silence
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by pAris on Feb 27, 2002 - 07:36 AM
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Okay. Enough of this; it's really up to the deities to decide (deicide?) what to do. I like the suggestion of proof. I think offering potential posters a choice of sending a copy of their photo ID (sent snail mail - it's too easy to photoshop the age or have a fake made) or perhaps additional pics of them in other poses/outfits/unflattering angles would do it. Or if the pics sent in were not that flattering to begin with (a la my recent ones).... But anyway, this whole mess sucks. It could have gotten Devin et al in trouble, it promotes the whole "look how purty I am" crap, and identity/image theft on any level sucks (trust me - I've been a victim of it on a video that I did not want shared, but that's another shmeng).
So for now, our words must carry our images/selves. Quite gothic, huh? S'matter of fact, I think writing is Goth as Fuck.
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by Sardonic-Pain (Lilgothicchicka@yahoo.com)
on Feb 28, 2002 - 06:39 AM
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Well.....I am new member ....And i rather enjoyed the picture gallery...I think its a shame that a few people are stupid enough to do that....Who cares if you don't look all that great and I am sorry if you are worried that much about your looks to steal someone elses photo. I know I am not the sweetest face to look at and I know I am kinda short kinda plump ect.....I posted my own damn picture one here.....I mean lets act our ages...Hell I am younger than a lot of people here and I act older than some of you guys.....Your outward appearace has nothing to do with what you are capable of doing
I mean haven't you seen those really ugly porn stars! THey get paid lots of money and they just don't sit around and be pretty. IGNORANCE PISSES ME OFF!!!!
Hell for posting someone elses person not only have you done a mistjustice to whom ever the person really was in the picture but to everyone who had a picture on this site.
I swear god must love stupid people cause he mad SO MANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Screening Problem solved...easily.
by Dolorosa on Mar 01, 2002 - 09:36 AM
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Just have your next picture sent in, have both you and something, anything with your call sign on it. Like, well...we all know Bettie, but she could have a Betty Page poster in the back...Me, when I finally decide to show my goofy ass face around here, I'll write Dolo on my forehead or something. It doesn't have to be too obvious, but once it's seen, it's known. Sure you can fake it, but if people have the time and resources to really work at being someone else, well fuck...We do it in the military, and so far it's worked. No Arabs with "Miller, John T." name tags have popped up yet.
Workable?
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Re: Persistent Stupidity
by Abbadon on Jun 10, 2003 - 12:20 PM
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The hipocracy inherent in these words astounds me. I posted a picture of my good self and it was never put up.
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