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Posted by
callei on Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 02:00 PM PST
I was thinking about the idea of sin, not SIN in the biblical, torah-ical, or koranical sense, but sin in the faux pas sense. Ya know telling someone that yes those pants do make them look fat, smoking within 50 feet of a door (california's smoking law) or getting drunk in front of your in-laws. I have never been that good at avoiding social sins. I LIKE to commit them. they FUN. But there are a few im not sure about.
Is is a social sin to have sex before dinner on a fisrt date?
Is it a sin to refuse to go to dinner with them after the sex because you are sleepy?
Is it a social sin to laugh at your lover the fist time you see them without make up?
Is it a sin to hit on the waitperson/server/hostperson while on a date with someone? What if the wait/host person or server is a different sex than your date?
Is it a sin to show off your porn collection?
Is it wrong to hit on a cop? How about while they are arresting your date?
Is it wrong to have an IQ test for your date and based on thier score refuse to date them? How about telling them thier score?
These are important questions i think. I know that goths dont follow social rules in general, but good manners are a part of the scene, and some of these are certainly not good manners in the normal scheme of things.
Is it wrong to buy the DJ a cup of coffee with the hopes that s/he wakes up and plays something good?
Is it wrong, when someone asks you to dance to say sure but i wont sleep with you, im just here to dance?
Is it a sin to laugh at the pretend Bisexuals on the dance floor? You know the ones i mean, thay are dancing together but when they hug only thier shoulders touch and they only kiss closed mouth.
Is it wrong to go try to pick one of them up? how about both of them?
Is it wrong when at a club and getting ready to go home to look over the walls of the locked stalls to see if your carpool members are the ones having sex in the stalls?
Is it wrong to give the people having sex in the stalls pointers?
Is it wrong to charge for condoms when the bathroom vending machine runs out? Even if they are nice ones?
Is it wrong to read erotica at a cafe? Even if you are a female? How about at a Denny's or Lyons? And laugh at the funny parts?
There are so many ways to mess up and enrage society, both the general populous and the goth social group, and i want to make sure that I know the best ways to commit these gaffes. I spend hours last night thinking of ways that i have sinned against the social norms and how much fun i had doing it.
I know its OK to tell your own lover that thier pants make them look like an over boiled sausage but is it still OK to tell your lover's lover the same thing?
Is it wrong to borrow your lovers' lover's clothes?
Is it wrong to talk about how that new lover is with you lover in front of other people, say at dinner or somthing? Even if you are paying for the meal?
Is it wrong to tell teens about real sex? Not that strange fairly tale about "sometimes two adults want to hug in a special way" nonsence, but things like you get real sweaty and its OK to pause and get a sip of water or gaterade? Is it ok to tell them that lots of people pretend to like sex in all its various farms, but in reality are scared to go beyond missonary position and want the lights out?
Is it wrong to laugh about this?
Is it wrong to think about these sorts of things while doing data entry for 8 hours? Even if my hubby sits next to me and we share and MP3 player? Even if there are next to no cute people (other than ourselves) in the building? What about if we laugh about it later when we get home?
This moment of weird quasi-sex brought to you by data entry and my hubby wearing leather pants.
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Re: Sin
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
on Oct 18, 2001 - 02:10 PM
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is it a sin (any of it)? nope.
is some of it dangerous? yes.
I say if you are up to it, go for it. I know I get a kick out of watching people brazen enough to do those things...I mean HELL, if your stupid carpool dates are making nookie in the bathroom when it's time to go home, that's just rude! I'd say "bitch, get on the knob and make it fast, it's 2am, he/she's driving me home, and I gotta get this makeup off my face or someone's gonna die."
I'd say some of these would be "innapropriate" in front of family members or your great grandma or something, but hey, people should know you when they come to your apartment and should know what to expect. My fiance is more modest than me , and hides the porn before someone comes over, shuts the bedroom door, etc.
I remember one funny thing...his sister and her boyfriend were over, and they were just about to leave when she saw something stuck to the heel of her shoe. We had sex on the couch the night before and a condom wrapper had hidden it's self under the futon....and ended up on her shoe :)
we all laughed soooooo hard.
it's nice to know that some people have a good sense of humor....now if it had been my MOTHER, now that would have been totally different....that would have been a nightmare.
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A few thoughts
by Maranda (saboneta@aol.com)
on Oct 19, 2001 - 06:11 AM
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Some thoughts...
First, I like your unstated definition of "sin". The word actually comes from Roman archery. A sin was an arrow that completely missed the target. More of a "miss" than a "crime". Your social sins fit that bill.
So, is it wrong to:
Show your date your porn collection? Not if you think he/she will appreciate it. Good way to find out if you share the same preferences.
Hit on a cop while he/she is making an arrest? The cop could think you're offering sexual favors as a bribe to forget the arrest. More "crime" than "sin".
Giving people pointers while they're in the throes? That could give someone a real complex. Best not to.
Likewise, comparing your lovers' performance and attributes might ensure that you have one less lover to compare.
Borrowing your lover's lover's clothes? Only if you do so without asking permission.
Telling teens that sexual insecurities are common and that life isn't always one big orgy? Essential. Otherwise, they could think something's wrong with them because their sexuality doesn't resemble what the media forces on them. Likewise for water, gatorade, condoms, anything else they ask about. Like they don't already know what sex is...
Hitting on someone else while you're on a date...usually bad. Definitely a "social sin". Go back and get their number later if you're that interested.
An IQ test? If someone of my preferred gender struck me as stupid, I wouldn't be interested in the first place. (We all have our shallow moments, I guess. Some drool over looks. I drool over brains.)
And laughing about any of these questions is never wrong. People should laugh more often.
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