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Articles: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood |
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MorteAscendo on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 04:03 AM PST
Well as some of you have read, there is a forum out talking about the drinking of blood. Well, that in general just frickin disgusted me to find out that people do that. I can tolerate some things in this world that are pretty off the wall but that is just gross. The fascination of Vampires does intrigue me to a point, but I would not go as far as to drink someone else’s blood. Is there really such a sub-culture that people go around and drink the blood of other humans?
First off as I stated in the forum, the ingestion of more then 50cc/ml of raw blood in the digestive tract will cause the stomach acids to react to the base of the blood coming in and soon cause you to feel sick and then vomit. Plus there is so much nastiness in the world of diseases, that alone is probably worse then unprotected sex.
I’ve heard about people getting implants in the teeth to look sharp and even some filing them down to get sharp. Now what is the purpose of that? I am a very open minded person, so open minded that I don’t even understand myself half the time. But through all my babbling my main question is why? Why would someone think that the consumption of blood is “cool” or “hip”? It is out right disgusting!
I do though, as stated above, that I have a slight fascination with the Vampire myths and story’s. Dolo has taught me a lot of about the “history” of Vampires and all that good stuff, but I could never find myself at the neck of some female wanting to do more then a little nibble or a kiss. Come on, I thought that some people in this world would have better things to do then try and find new ways of transmitting one’s diseases.
Now when I was talking with someone tonight at work about this he said, and I quote: “Well, isn’t that what you ‘Goth’ people do anyway, run around like Vampires and bite people?” And then he walked away giggling. (I’m pretty sure Dolo has a good idea who I’m talking about.) For starters on that I do not consider myself Goth, and I never have. I do where black and is clinically depressed…BUT!! That is beside the point. I really got pissed at that comment for one thing. Stereotyping! That shit just pisses me off like nothing else. I’ve always gotten along with Goth kids when I was in high school but never chose to go that extra step. The people that I have met on here I have come to respect because everyone is there own person here without the fear of stereotyping or discrimination. Do people do that to up themselves in life and make them feel better? Everything is a way of life and most should be respected.
Just had these things on my mind. Thanks!
- Morte Ascendo
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by IamSquid (AAA@sockmonkeys.net)
on Jul 28, 2002 - 05:58 AM
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This was probably being written just as I was giving my PSA in the "this is all so new to mee" thread. Besides the risk of infection I described in the thread, there's 2 more reasons to refrain from having someone bite yor neck: The colotid artery and the jugular vein. Breaching either of these can easily result in death before the paramedics are even dispatched.
I can understand the attraction to it. I've always kind of fantasized about having a woman bite my neck until I bleed and slurp away the blood but I've also fantasized about immasculation and I SURE AS HELL WOULD NEVER DO THAT!
I mean, erotic vampirism is far far stupider than erotic asphyxiation and I'm sure it's nowhere near as intense of a climax. DISCLAIMER: Don't try asphyxiation either.
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Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Jul 28, 2002 - 06:13 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/strangeasangels/ | I would rather be found like the victim of a primitive jack the ripper than like the guy from INXS...
Naked, boner, with a ziptie around my neck...
*cringe*
That's where the Man Show's "post mortem cleanup crew" would be more than welcom... |
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Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by IamSquid (AAA@sockmonkeys.net) on Jul 29, 2002 - 08:29 AM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | I don't know, the climax from asphyxiation is like being shot in the face with a 12 gauge! (that's a good thing) I'd rather die thinking "oh my god this is intense!" than "oh crap, I knew this was a stupid idea!" Anyway, I prefer dog choke collars.
ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: What I have just described is an EXTREMELY stupid thing to do, don't try it at home. |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Ianthe99 on Jul 29, 2002 - 12:01 PM (User info | Send a Message) | It's more fun (and a little safer) just to have someone's hand on your throat, that way.. they can just let go. Still a slightly risky activity, but lots of kinks are. Not that I know *anything* about any of it.. |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by IamSquid (AAA@sockmonkeys.net) on Jul 29, 2002 - 12:19 PM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | The advantage of the choke collar locks just by holding the end to the side and releases by simply letting go. Plus it bites into yor flesh enough so it also hurts quite a bit in addition to the all around pressure. It can also be used around the penis and tesicles...not that I know anything about it either, that would be twisted and very very dangerous.
YET ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: Seriously kids, people die doing this alot more often than yoo think, DO NOT try it at home. |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Jul 29, 2002 - 08:37 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/strangeasangels/ | I just don't get why the hell they use zipties...those things have no release clip and are VERY hard to cut or get off!
Horny idiots *snicker* I can't imagine anything more embarassing than having my dead naked body found with a bag and ziptie around my neck. Okay, surrounded by farm animals with a ziptie around my neck....things COULD be worse.. |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by IamSquid (AAA@sockmonkeys.net) on Jul 29, 2002 - 10:38 PM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | that IS pretty fucked-up. I don't see the appeal of that at all. I would never use a bag (if, hypotheticly, I were ever to try it). And a ziptie? And I thought nooses and bunjee chord were dumb.
Really pressure is all that's needed. Someone explained it to mee that this creates a barrier for kundalini that is stimulated by sexual arousal so that the kundalini has to explode through. This is also a very good reason NOT to try it! |
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by MorteAscendo (corpsmanwix@aol.com)
on Jul 28, 2002 - 10:03 AM
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After i finished posting i realized that my writing is abstract as my art and apologize. I just think to fast sometimes! hee hee..
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by Ianthe99 on Jul 28, 2002 - 10:44 AM
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Yes.. people *do* drink blood, but they don't generally go around biting each other's necks to do it. It can be dangerous.. but so can sex. Just like sex, the people that enjoy erotic vampirisim need to get themselves tested regularly and be careful about who they play with. Some people take it *very* seriously, some people just like the taste of blood and the intimacy that comes along with sharing blood. It's another bodily fluid, like spit, semen, or vaginal secretions, and people swap spit and go down on each other all the time. If people are careful about it, like anything else, it's not so dangerous.
I agree, it's not right for people to think that *all* goths do that sort of thing..and you have every right to be grossed out by it.. but there are much scarier branches on the tree or perversion, I tell you that much. The way I see it, as long as the people involved are truely hurting anyone (as in permanent physical or mental damage.) and as long as those involved are all cool with it.. whatever floats your boat. SSC.. Safe, Sane, and consentual.
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Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Ianthe99 on Jul 29, 2002 - 12:05 PM (User info | Send a Message) | I don't know all of the ways. the ones I *do* know of are, making a small cut with something like a razorblade or using a syringe to pull blood.. (I've heard this is *NOT* recommended) I've known of a person that liked the blood pulled through the skin by sucking.. that's one hell of a hickey tho, and it's really hard to do. There are sites on the net that explain different things about it, methods, safety issues and such. |
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Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Psychopixi on Jul 31, 2002 - 03:44 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://psychopixi.com | One of the ways that I have heard of is using a razor blade to make a small "X" shaped cut on the elbow - the skin there is thick enough so that it is hardly felt. |
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by Psychopixi on Jul 28, 2002 - 01:20 PM
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I don't think that drinking other people's blood is disgusting, it holds no personal appeal to me, but the thought doesn't sicken me. I don't mind the taste of blood either - I'm another one of those people who'll quite happily suck the blood from a cut.
As to the saftey of drinking other people's blood I think that most people who are serious about doing it *will* take the necessary health and saftey precautions. I know they also don't take from the neck; they know that's dangerous. I figure that if they know what they're doing then it's up to them. I wouldn't say they had any bigger 'problems' that other people who are into BDSM. It's just another personal fetish.
The stereotype that goths drink blood and act like vampires has to be one of the most annoynig things ever though! I hate that people think that, but when I say 'Umm... no...' they just ignore it. *Shrugs*
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by Xaoswolf (Xaoswolf at hotmail dot com)
on Jul 28, 2002 - 03:10 PM
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If I'm going to drink someone's blood, chances are, it'll be directly from the heart of someone that I really don't like, and it will be the last theing that they ever get to see. Following which, I will promptly brush my teeth.
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by Anya on Jul 31, 2002 - 08:15 PM
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Yeah. That stuff is just sick. I mean if you really need to drink blood to live, that's different...but really wanting to do it and think it's cool, yuck. Big yucky.
I have a vampire obsession myself, but I would not go as far as trying to drink another person's blood. As for that stereotyping thing, that ticks me off as well - I can like vampires without being "Goth" or a "Satanist" or <insert stupid stereotype here>.
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Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Xaoswolf (Xaoswolf at hotmail dot com) on Aug 02, 2002 - 09:51 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://Xaoswolf.tripod.com | I'd have to agree, I like vampires myself also, though I don't think I would do the whole biting thing. To me there is nothing really romantic or erotic about it. Ever see a vampire bat, they're ugly little fuckers, and why are they ugly, well, they live on a diet of blood. Blood makes you ugly, just like beef makes you crazy and beans give you gas. Now if I could ever find a way use blood to feul my reign of terror and not become butt ugly, I might give it a try, but until then, I'll settle for beans and beef. |
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by Celria on Aug 02, 2002 - 01:42 AM
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I have a friend who drinks blood. it's scary. he bit me on the hand once and it FUCKING HURT I drink blood sometimes, but I don't actually bite people. and I never drink much of course. the reason that blood makes you sick is because it has so many nutrients that people arn't used to. the strange thing about my friend is he only tries to bite me and not other people. I don't mind the sharp teeth. I even think it's beautiful, but actually using them bothers me. I don't mind people drinking blood from cuts but people who bite others (and people who are willingly bitten) kind of weird me out.
anyway I don't think what I have written contributed to this thread much so I'll go now...
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by Shade (Shade@Gothcult.com)
on Aug 04, 2002 - 10:04 AM
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This has been bothering me all week Morte...
<quote>+++MorteAscendo spoke thusly++++++
"Well as some of you have read, there is a forum out talking about the drinking of blood. Well, that in general just frickin disgusted me to find out that people do that. I can tolerate some things in this world that are pretty off the wall but that is just gross. "
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"Everything is a way of life and most should be respected. "
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Way to be open minded Morte, just because it's outside the realm of your knowledge and it doesn't turn you on does not mean it's a bad thing...
-Just my nit picking of the week.
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Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by MorteAscendo (corpsmanwix@aol.com) on Aug 05, 2002 - 02:51 PM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | I understand Shade, as i said i do except somethings, but blood to me is something that i would give away for the sake of being stupid. I give blood at drives that helps people. These people are sharing disease and whatnot. I think that i am open-minded about alot of things but we all have vices and things that just makes the hair on our nape just stand up.
But i do understand where your comming from Shade dont get me wrong. |
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Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Ianthe99 on Aug 05, 2002 - 06:31 PM (User info | Send a Message) | They're not sharing disease any more than people having sex. Do you think sex is disgusting too? |
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exquisite corpse... by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Aug 06, 2002 - 06:39 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/strangeasangels/ | only if you swallow. Ahem.
Anyway, sex isn't very safe either, but that's why you have CONDOMS. They decrease the risk, but not altogether. Unsafe and even random casual sex with whoever you find at the bar/club/library/vet's office, TO ME pertaining to MY life and my comfort level, is GRODY, and not very smart OR safe, condom or not.
To some, that's normal and makes them happy. It's whatever floats your boat.
Tho sex and blood drinking share the same level of risk factors (if not more, in blood's case), there is SOME level of defense during sex. You have to take the person's word for it with drinking blood...would you take someone's word for it on the issue of sex? "I'm sterile" "I'm clean" "that's just a birthmark".
Nope, you strap on a raincoat and hope for the best.
Not only can blood make you very very sick, but it puts you at DIRECT risk for many serious serious and often DEADLY infectious BLOOD borne diseases.
I'm not saying everyone that drinks blood just nips and sucks at random, but it IS quite more dangerous than sex as there is NOT ALWAYS blood or skin abrasions involved. Whereas with blood drinking, you can't be asking more for something nasty...direct contact...INGESTION of a possibly infectious substance. How many people that drink blood have ever done injectibles? Would you EVER consider sharing a syringe? Probably not...that's DANGEROUS.
Granted that everyone in the matter are willing participants then do whatever you want to yourselves, it's your right, it's your body, it's your life. I"m not going to tell you what to do anymore than anyone else has a right to tell ME what to do with my body. But you HAVE to be educated and accept the risks with NO complaints. If you come down with a disease it's your own fault, as much as someone who comes down with a disease after shooting up or having unsafe sex.
People that I"ve heard that drink blood say that it's romantic and exciting...they also say that about unprotected sex. I find hospitals, debilitating diseases, and being DEAD VERY unromantic.
Do what you want. Just don't complain when it backfires...that's all I ask. |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by MorteAscendo (corpsmanwix@aol.com) on Aug 06, 2002 - 08:37 AM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | My thoughts dont always come out clear when i write, but!! im not saything that i think sex is disgusting, i'm just apauled by drinking other peoples blood, but sex can be alot safer then drinkingblood. thats all...sheesh...now you make me sound like a crotchedy old maid or something...lol... |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Aug 06, 2002 - 01:41 PM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/strangeasangels/ | Oh that wasn't at you, but just replying to the prior post about it's no more dangerous than casual sex.
You have a right to be disgusted...until you become a bully or an asshole which you haven't.
I find a LOT of habits or compulsions or indulgences of others disgusting...you could say the same about smokers, but as far as people doing what they want in their free time, hey, that one bit isn't the whole person so I'll get over it.
I think you might have come off a little rude, but sheesh....take a look at some of MY Older posts *snicker* I'M not one to call the kettle black :) |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Ianthe99 on Aug 06, 2002 - 02:01 PM (User info | Send a Message) | I didn't actually mean that I thought that you thought sex was disgusting Morte, I was just making a comparison. You're right Bettie..drinking blood is a bee-line into the system. My only point is that there are safer ways to do it.That drinking blood carries just a little more risk than unprotected sex. And everyone is perfectly within their rights to think it's kinda gross. I mean, hell, I'm sure there are people that think golden showers are fine and dandy.. but not this gal. Eww. To each their own. |
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Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by MorteAscendo (corpsmanwix@aol.com) on Aug 06, 2002 - 02:35 PM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | Well, i just get over protective when it seems that people are getting in me face (metaphoricly speaking). When i wrote this i had just read that forum, and i was just apauled cause i never heard of such a thing, so i posted my thoughts. Tis all. But hey, whats life with out butting heads sometimes. i hold no grudges....*winks*
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Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Ianthe99 on Aug 06, 2002 - 07:16 PM (User info | Send a Message) | Yeah.. and I just get a little defensive when I *think* someone is being closed minded. No grudges here either. *Hugs* |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Ianthe99 on Aug 06, 2002 - 08:05 PM (User info | Send a Message) | *Grin* Yeah.. I never meant anything that I said in a belligerant (sp) way anyhow. |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by MorteAscendo (corpsmanwix@aol.com) on Aug 08, 2002 - 03:18 AM (User info | Send a Message) http:// | felt like a cold dagger in my heart....lol....jk....one be depressed family!! lol...at least the Munsters where happy...hee hee |
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Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
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When it comes down to it, blood drinking/fetishising is around...whether it's two consenting adults that find it arousing, or a bunch of doped up teenage vampire idiot wannabe dropouts, people will have their opinions and comfort levels. SOme want to stop it (for whatever reasons: health, religion, social/emotional/moral concern etc), some want to DO it, and some are content to just say "leave me out...you kids have fun"
It's a personal issue, a practice that I PERSONALLY find icky and unnecessarily dangerous, but I'm not about to butt into others behind the doors practices (unless of course it's with unwilling/underage participants).
But the next filthy little mallrat that bares his plastic fangs at me and asks me if I'm into Rocky or "bloodletting" is going to be EATING those same said fangs and a few other teeth and body fluids.
Lumping them in with all "goths" is ridiculous.
It's like saying we're all satanists.
Or xian.
Or into death.
Or into murder.
Or into drugs.
You get it.
I don't find it fascinating or sexy, but on that same line very few also find my interests fascinating or sexy...and I don't expect them to.
When you hang your laundry and business out for others to see, some are going to take a whack.
If it's personal, what's wrong with keeping it personal? Everything, if it's to get attention, which is what a LOT of these "vampire" kids are out to get....not to lump all you little "rice-ers" together, mind you. But you know who I'm talking about....
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Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by Ianthe99 on Aug 12, 2002 - 09:33 PM (User info | Send a Message) | Well said Bettie! A lot of times if someone is flashing an extreme fetish all over the place, it's for shock value. Not *always* mind you, but often. I would think it's much more common for someone who is actually into an alternative practice, such as bloodletting, to be more reserved about it. Knowing that "normal people" are likely to point and say "FREAK!!" in unfriendly terms. Then again, some people just don't really care. Hopefully, the kids (and /or adults) that do those things for shock value will grow out of it. |
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Re: Re: Re: Stereotyping and Drinkers of Blood by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Aug 15, 2002 - 12:03 AM (User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/strangeasangels/ | yeah, grow out of it before they have aids or hepatitis or something just as awful.
Most people DO keep their sex/personal lives personal. They don't NEED to prove themselves to someone. It's just a part of their private lives, nothing special really to anyone but them and their significant others.
I just can't stand little mall brats in "bondage" gear and fucking vampire teeth. "I'm into BONDAGE"
Yeah, uh huh, you're a 15 year old virgin who lives in your mom's basement and thinks "bondage" is when you pilfer a couple of wine coolers from the fridge, sneak downstairs with your "girlfriend" and give each other hickeys while the other is wearing plastic handcuffs they got at spencers.
Most if introduced to true black and blue S&M would piss themselves and run home crying to mommy and a scalding hot bath.
Then run to church.
I can respect people who live their lives as they choose, but I don't respect people who flaunt their lives like I give a shit, or FAKE it. I can't STAND fakers, almost as bad as I can't stand little kids who swear they are a "vampire".
Maybe I"m just getting old *sigh*
There are worse things in life.
Like mallrats.
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