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Articles: screenwriting blues |
Posted by
dubclerk on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 04:02 AM PST
Hello All, I'm new to your world but I thought this would be the best place for advice on this little screenplay I'm attempting.
Basically, I'm wanting to capture some enriching Goth culture in the movie for the female lead. I haven't been to impressed with what Hollywood has done so far. So now it's my (and your) turn.
In a nutshell - Boy (slight agoraphobic) works in cemetery wants to fall in love with new girl on the scene. Her sister has just died and she wants to lead the life her sister was pursuing - enveloped in Goth culture. She's not to sure how and makes some big mistakes along the way.
I'm planning plenty of club scenes and a few graveyard romps.
My wife has been a Goth-Girl ever since high school but suggested I check out what might be recently happening in the Goth world.I need modern Goth do's and don't's but want some grounding culture history too.
Any advice will be appreciated and, who knows, maybe we can all make a movie together.
Between my wife and me we have a couple low budget films already done so this isn't just a passing fancy.
Thanks for your comments - Rick Steele - dubclerk
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Re: screenwriting blues
by callei (plyn@plynlymon.com)
on Oct 15, 2001 - 11:23 AM
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black condom jokes are new to me, tho probly old by now. I think it depends on what city your are basing it in actually. there are major regional diffferences. I saw a "pictures of goth" book that had pix all lumped together and you felt that lack of understanding when you looked thru it.
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Re: screenwriting blues by dubclerk on Oct 15, 2001 - 06:45 PM (User info | Send a Message) | callei,
I got the same feeling from other websites. Nothing with substance - just a bunch a whiners. When I stumbled onto vibechild and then saw the link for this site, I knew this was the place.
Thanks - dubclerk |
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This is the place, all right by Maranda (saboneta@aol.com) on Oct 17, 2001 - 01:00 PM (User info | Send a Message) | This is certainly the place to get some intelligent, knowledgeable feedback. I recently wrote a human interest-type article on Goth, and while I did immerse myself briefly in my local Goth scene, these people were helpful and willing to talk to me.
If I learned anything really important about Goth culture, it is that Goth is about respecting and appreciating those parts of oneself and one's world that the mainstream culture tries the hardest to deny. This was, for me, the essence of Goth. Once I understood that, I understood a lot of things.
You say your character is trying to copy her sister's lifestyle. If the sister felt ostracized and rejected because she was a Goth, and your main character decided to honor her by keeping alive the one thing the mundane world disliked the most about her, that would be very Goth. Perhaps she could start out painting her eyes black and wearing velvet and vinyl, and eventually realize that the simple decision to honor her sister's Gothic identity is the most Gothic thing of all.
Or, her sister's death could provide the catalyst for her to begin thinking about the great mysterious cycle of death and life, and develop a greater appreciation for that cycle. The adolescent romps in the graveyard could give way to a real appreciation of the dead; their lives, their stories, and their memorials, since those memorials remind us that our own time is limited.
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Re: screenwriting blues
by Devin (devin-at-vibechild-dot-com)
on Oct 15, 2001 - 01:31 PM
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I think to get a realistic "Goth Scene" in a movie, you'd have to make it all surrealistic. A bunch of punks in eyeliner's not gonna cut it - except maybe for your character's "mistake scenes". If I were looking for stylistic stuff for those kind of scenes, I'd be looking at the transformation scene from interview with the vampire, some of the imagination scenes from heavenly creatures, and maybe some of the background ambiance from natural born killers (especially for the club scenes). It seems like what you're going for is for the girl to 'not get it' so having the background all surreal and her not seeing it would be good. And then she gets it - so make the foreground all magical and the background maybe a mall or something... Maybe watch some david lynch movies for a refresher. The idea is that weird beautiful stuff is everyday life, and normal suburban life is just sick and wrong...
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Re: screenwriting blues by dubclerk on Oct 15, 2001 - 06:42 PM (User info | Send a Message) | Thanks Devin (also my oldest daughters name),
I'm a big Lynch fan and have actually been going over a few scenes in Lost Highway that might be helpful for the transitions. I like the idea of surrealism in the club scenes. I have a few ideas about the walls moving for her as ghosts are dancing around the room with the people dancing. Everything is up for consideration at this point.
Thanks again for yr comments - dubclerk |
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