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Re: Where is Our Social Conscience?
by Schizo on Jan 02, 2003 - 05:12 PM
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Not to call Americans saints, cuz we're not, but the reason Europe kept it to Europe back whenever was because of the difficulty of travel. Much easier to fuck with the people you can reach. Of course, that wasn't enough, so they spread out to fuck with everyone - Native Americans, Asians, Africans, etc. Hell, England fucked with everyone, they called it the British Empire!
So it's not just America, it's people in power anywhere and anytime.
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Re: Where is Our Social Conscience?
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
on Jan 02, 2003 - 05:14 PM
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Bah, the only reason they only fucked with each other is because they couldn't go anywhere else at the time. And in the more recent fuckups, a certain german countryman had his eye and his troops aimed towards EVERYBODY. And great brittan fucked with other continents, and spain too, when they sent their little boats to our grand "new world", eliminated the native population, then sent shiploads of criminals to the new "social/political landfill" , tried to make them act and behave like they were still in europe, then freaked and attacked said political landfill when they refused. Whether they keep it on their own continent or not it's still meddling, and meddling just as bad as we've ever done, and for a LOT longer. If anything, it's worse if you live by the rule of don't shit where you sleep. When you stick as many people on such a small little blue ball, add in massive telecommunications and global travel capabilities and long range everything, PLUS spike it with thousands of years of meddling, buggering, and ancient, evolved, or semievolved belief systems, old grudges and new knots in our underwear, we might as well be on the same continent. So we all need to just stop peeing in the collective sandbox and pissin each other off or bein pissy crybabies and egomaniacs.
Whether we agree with their "religious choice" is one thing, and it's not the reason we're over there...it's the big green god that our fine fine government is after, and for most (as they would like to believe) to stop genocide...because genocide and dictators get in the way of oil, which leads back to money and power, which is well...all our friggin problems in one big black sticky ball of gold! Besides, in their "holy war" they're killin people too. LOTS of people over a "belief" system.
If we stepped back and let millions of people be killed for whatever reason, religious or not, you better believe that our fair "mind our own business" citizens, as well as other neighboring countries either involved or having to be near the slaughter, would scream out "WHAT are YOU going to do about this! How cold and uncaring that you would just sit by and let this happen?!" Hell I get SUPER angry and pissed off when I hear of violence in the name of xianity in our country....sure that gay kid deserved to be drug to death, tied to a fence, and beaten...god hates fags! Or that beating to death or attacking practicing islamic arab americans because they dont' believe in god, or that rival hidu gangs bomb each other's temples in american cities. You could argue that THEY were just following a religious belief, and that we shouldn't get involved.
Hell, the KKK is a christian organization. They can still meet and blow their bullshit around with each other, burn a few crosses in the woods and wear their cute little outfits and sing their songs, but they can't hurt anyone without consequence.
I'd love nothing more than to just bring all our kids home and leave the world to itself...that means no more occupations of any country or territory, no more nastiness towards or from our troops, etc.
It also means no more help for all those countries that want us to leave them the hell alone, but who come crying to us first when someone kicks sand in their face, starves their children, murders their husband, or when they need help diggin out of a devestating earthquake, flood, or relief from a famine or draught or epidemic. They can't have their cake and throw it too. If they truly want to be left alone, then we should, in fact, leave them ALONE. They're big kids, they can deal with life themselves without interferrance, and without HELP.
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Re: Where is Our Social Conscience?
by Domkitten (domkittenish@spanking.com)
on Jan 03, 2003 - 07:27 AM
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We are not the only country to have the "biggest kid on the block" mentality. Nor are we the first country to make a globel issue of it. What is sad that this type of power hungry global war mongering is a historical fact that has been going on as long as there was a world to conquer. Let us not forget the Romans who conqured the known world at the time, or really any country guilty of that.
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