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Re: UNBOWED Is Goth as FUCK!
by Devin (devin-at-vibechild-dot-com)
on Jul 27, 2001 - 03:17 PM
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Ya know, I think I just figured out why schizo doesn't annoy the fuck outta me like most christians. She has never, to my memory, mentioned the word Jesus on any of these discussions. In all the jesus posts we had, you could substitute the name of any other diety instead of jesus and it would still sound like a jesus post but would make no sense. Try taking one of Schizo's posts, and substituting the name of another supreme being (Devin for instance). They still make sense in the context of that religion. That kicks ass in my book
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Re: UNBOWED Is Goth as FUCK!
by NightSide (nightside@vampirefreeks.com)
on Jul 29, 2001 - 03:31 PM
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Geeze why does EVERYONE miss the point. WE ARE ALL GOD ALL THAT IS IS GOD BY THE BIBLES VERY DEFINITION.... GOD IS UNIVERSIAL, GOD IS ALL ALL IS GOD. YOU ARE AS MUCH GOD AND ANYTHING ELSE IS. Does not the bible say... Omnipresent, omnipotent? If that IS what one TRULY believes or KNOWS to be true then to love yourself and your neigbor is to love GOD because it is the SAME. Not Christians that is the WRONG take maybe I should have made it a bit clearer, ORGINIZED religion read CHURCH that place that tells you FEAR waht you should LOVE in order to make you a slave not to GOD but to the CHURCH that only wahts money and power. God is not a HE or a SHE GOD is ALL the culmanation ov everything in it's functioning whole.
And again it is just my take on things. Everyone is welcome to thier own. I was reaised in Christian Foster homes, and Catholic boarding schools to answer your question about where I came by my dislike for most self proffessed christians. There are TRUE christians that do follow what they truly believe got no problems with that but myself I am Buddist and I truly think that when the crap placed in religion to scare the money out of people is removed they ALL say the same thing. All that is is part of a harmonous whole and good done for the whole is good back at you. Karma, the goledn rule what ever you call it.... The rest is just to sacre power or money sometimes both out of someone.
See in my ideal you are as much your OWN king as any for are you not TRULY part of god, and as part of the whole you are olny bowing to yourself..... All in all, I feel that if one does good, not out of FEAR of punishment but because GOOD is in thier heart then whatever god there is will not take issue with it. God SHOULD be love and peace not frear and hate.... If you have to fear GOD to be good are you TRULY a GOOD person? Not in my book.... You are just bribing the athorities to not punish you. Not REALLY good at heart.... I don't have anything aginst those that truly beileve and live a truly good life, just the so called christians that are only good one day a week....
As for easily broken..... Well near 50 years ain't broke me yet.... There is a BIG difference between bending and bowing..... That is the kewl thing there IS room in this world for us ALL. Free to believe what fits us. Ever read or heard about the God/Brain theroy? It is an interesting one....
I will NEVER tell anyone that they do not have a right to believe as they choose I could be far wrong and you right on but I think either way the key is to lead a good life for the right reasons, then you won't fail reguardless of how you see the universe.
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Re: UNBOWED Is Goth as FUCK!
by NightSide (nightside@vampirefreeks.com)
on Jul 29, 2001 - 03:38 PM
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On the weekness thing..... One thought, you have only a GOD to seek help from. I on the other hand have the universe. I have found my self in need many times but I have always helped ANY I could that were in need that I have been able to help and when I have ever needed help it has been there. I prefer active Karma to begging a big buddy upstairs for help. I have found that if I help others when they are in need and I can help that the aid I need when I need is it there for me. Karma. Likewise if you screw others you get that back too.....
But again it is just a different way of looking at the same thing, I use the word UNIVERSE meaning the culmnation of all you use the word GOD but it is pretty much the same if one truly believes in the core of christianity, the golden rule.... So you and I may not be so far apart as you might think....
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