feralucce
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posted on 20/5/2006 at 12:49 PM |
OK...
Adopted son... 15 years with teh family... knows he is adopoted...
Loses his virignity to his adopted sister...
Is this wrong...
For example sake, insert any relation, aunt, cousin, niece.. ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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IamSquid
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posted on 20/5/2006 at 12:59 PM |
No.
And that would be my answer even were I not a nihilist. It may however,
depending on the situation be gross as fuck but that's none of my
buissness. ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/5/2006 at 03:50 PM |
| well, actually... it IS your business, because that is what this is all
about ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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Sardonic-Pain
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posted on 20/5/2006 at 07:11 PM |
I dunno..... many factors can play a part....He is adopted so its not blood
but he has been you said...in the family for 15 years? So you mind as well
be having sex with your sister...Then it all plays into individual
morals....Whether you think its wrong or not or is it only wrong because
society says its wrong,
Royals kept it in the family, and it wasn't thought of something taboo
then,but when it comes to interbreeding well the genepool kinda goes down
the drain. I personally don't think its right or wrong, I dont have a
strong opinion about it, its not that uncommon. Specially when you have
young kids comming into age and exploring their sexuality, who better than
someone you know?
I guess what ever floats your boat and sinks your battleship.
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My Life is like a porno-Without the sex-Just the weird music
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Domkitten
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posted on 20/5/2006 at 07:26 PM |
Alright, my first reaction to this was….EW, Ew, Ew, Ew, Ew,…
And my second reaction was, well see above.
My third reaction was pretty much on par as well….
Okay, I think if he is fifteen, and has been raised in the family, then it
speaks a bit for the upbringing if his thought were his adopted sister
being free range territory for sexual experiences. Yes, yes, the bond
between brothers and sisters can be strong and even creepy (you ever watch
Angelina with her brother, weird) but I don’t think a case can be made here
for the rightness of having sex with your sibling.
There is also the question, is the adopted sister younger or older. This
could also effect or change the dynamics of the relationship. In either
case, I think this could fall well into the category of sexual manipulation
by the older party, as well, let’s face it, a fifteen year old boy will go
off if you blow on his arm, and can be easily turned to do things that he
might not agree with. The same can be said for a younger sister who has
mixed feelings and hasn’t be taught about masturbation as a way of dealing
with said feelings and understanding them.
While as far as the gene pool is concerned it is not wrong, I’d say that it
is both morally and psychologically bad head space for both partners.
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It's like kegel exercises for your throat.~Monolycus
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Psychopixi
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posted on 21/5/2006 at 03:06 AM |
I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with it, because after all
they aren't related by blood, but it is a bit weird because he's grown up
with the girl around and for all intents and purposes he is her brother.
I mean, isn't incest supposed to be wrong because of the fact that any
children resulting from that union have a greater chance of having genetic
abnormalities? Isn't that where the whole taboo came from?
What if he'd been adopted by another family, and met the girl at a party
and slept with her then? Nothing wrong with that.
Then again, what if they were related by blood and had sex anyway (using
protection, so no children) - I don't think there's anything morally wrong
with that, but it does still seem rather weird.
Aside from the points Domkitten raised about whether or not someone's being
taken advantage of, I guess the whole thing just strikes me as odd, but not
morally objectionable. I don't really know why I think it's odd though -
just that "normally" people don't have sex with their siblings. ____________________
Do not fear death so much, but rather the inadequate life.
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/5/2006 at 02:11 AM |
I'm not sure about right or wrong, since I don't tend to make those
judgements for anyone but myself. But this scenario would be dangerous on
so many levels, and not only because of possible censure or the element of
manipulation on the part of the older family member.
Just think of this. Those of you who lost your virginity at a young age -
how many of you are still on good terms with the person you lost it to?
How would you have liked to have had to spend the rest of your school years
living in the same household as this person? How would you like to have to
attend holidays, weddings, funerals, and various family reunions with this
person as long as you both shall live?
The thing about marriage is that it makes you family. If you really can't
stand the person anymore, you can divorce and no longer be family (although
with children there are complications). But in this situation, you are
family to start with, and you are going to remain family forever, no matter
what, no matter if it goes wrong or gets ugly (as things involving sex have
a tendency to, especially teenage sex, when you are not really emotionally
mature enough to handle things as well.) It could get awkward, to put it
very mildly.
So morals aside, this could end up a very tricky, messy, unpleasant
operation, where future contact with the rest of the family could be deeply
effected forever. Although, with parents who would allow such a thing to
occur right under their noses without doing something to halt it, maybe the
poor kids would have a happier adulthood keeping their distance from the
rest of the family.
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/5/2006 at 11:52 PM |
| No, when I say it's none of my buissness I mean whether or not that's gross
is up to them. If they're having sex then its probably unlikely that they
think so unless it's a drunken mistake or something. ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/5/2006 at 12:03 AM |
Not really my call, but this is the way i see it, it may grate against a
social norm here, but any sexual encounter cast in any given light can
grind up against SOME social norm. I think that it's not wrong, but
definately unwise, as a relationship like that could lead to some very
severe problems down the way. Or mebbe not...something to be said about the
family that plays together stays together.
inherently wrong? Absolutely not. Inherently dangerous? Oh hell yes.
But thats sex for ya. ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic  Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/5/2006 at 04:31 AM |
| I was dating a guy once whose mother had a bunch of kids and father had a
bunch of kids and they hooked up and had him. I thought it was kinda odd
when he told me we were going to visit his brother and sister... who just
happened to be married to each other and had kids of their own. When he
explained it, that the sister was from his mom and his brother was from his
dad... I guess that was enough explanation for me. The two knew they could
get along... they'd been living together as brother and sister for years.
As far as I know, their marriage was a happy one. Funny thing, though...
the whole family was from Kentucky. So much for avoiding stereotypes. ____________________
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/5/2006 at 11:21 AM |
Three of the many things I remember being told by my parents in my
youth:
(1) My father had proposed to my mother when he was 20 and she was 19.
After proposing to my mother, he asked his 14 year old fiance, who was back
in Kentucky, to please return the engagement ring he had previously given
her.
(2) When I was a small girl, my brother married a woman with a small boy.
After they got married, my brother adopted his wife's son. My mother felt
compelled to tell me that when I got older I could marry my nephew, as he
was not blood related to me. For whatever reason, she continued to say this
to me throughout the years until I was a teenager. When I was a teenager, I
found out that my sister's daughter had made out with brother's adopted
son, but they had stopped short of sexual intercourse.
(3) My father, who was born and raised in Kentucky, used to say, "A
Kentucky virgin is any girl who is 11 or older that can outrun her
brothers." My father's sister, who lived into her seventies, never had any
children. I tended to assume that she had been a very good runner. ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/5/2006 at 03:35 PM |
| I read a magazine article about two teenagers who had been in a
relationship for a long time and really loved each other. I don't remember
exactly, but it was something like his dad and her mom ended up getting
married. The teens didn't end their relationship though because they were
together before the parents ever hooked up, and they loved each other.
Unfortunately this caused a lot of problems for them, and they ended up
having to switch schools. ____________________
"People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
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Domkitten
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posted on 24/5/2006 at 01:53 AM |
See there is a difference between being brought into a family or a mixed
family by marriage, knowing that you are not related and growing up
together. Although the thought of greg and marsha getting it on sickens
me...I would still think that if you had two sibilings that were in a
blended family raised together from a young age they would not be
preinclined to date each other...generally one is not attracted to
sibilings...however, some interesting research on adoption has shown that
children who were adopted at a young age who find their birth family later
in life often feel a strong and overwhelming love that is both sexual and
famial all at the same time. It is not uncommon for these reunited
sibilings, sons, and daughters to engage in some sexual contact afterwards.
If you are interested you can read all about it here....
My purpose for that rather meaningless seguey is to say that there is not
neccesarily any sound scientific reason to assume that we are not or should
not be attracted to sibilings or marry in the family, so to speak. The
taboo comes from the prevailing societal norm that says you don't marry
brothers or fuck your younger sister. The prevailing societal norm with
with I was deeply ingrained, potential from my own southern upbrining
caused my initial, and consitent, reaction to the intial quesion.
I am still of the opinion that there is the potential for sexual
manipulation on either side...and while not inherently wrong, i still think
it is not right.
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It's like kegel exercises for your throat.~Monolycus
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Meranda_Jade
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posted on 24/5/2006 at 02:20 PM |
DK, I can so understand that. I grew up estranged from my biological father
and had a half brother who I knew about, but had never met. When we did
meet, we hit it off so well... and he was beautiful. He wasn't in town
long and we spent the day together, talking, watching movies and wrestling.
(We had to, its what siblings do. And it was fun.) When I left that night,
I was thinking to myself how I had a perfect brother... and what a shame it
was that he was my brother. That was the only day I ever saw him alive. He
died of a seizure a few years later. I'm not saying that I would have
eventually engaged in incest with my brother... that's just plain wrong...
but I did feel an unsisterly attraction for him for just a few moments
there.
[Edited on 5/24/2006 by Meranda_Jade] ____________________
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crash
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posted on 30/5/2006 at 10:43 PM |
Well, to beat a dead horse with the same sort of response, I don't think
it's wrong. If they are aware they aren't blood related then what's
stopping them? A piece of paper saying their parents are legally involved?
I should say that doesn't mean much at all in the end.
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