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Author: Subject: What has happened to the world?

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  posted on 25/5/2005 at 10:20 AM
Has it always been like this and I just didn't notice, or is it, as I suspect, only within the last ten years that everything that made society worthwhile has collapsed?
The rise of the political gossip magazine in the place of the newspaper appears to have ruined all political debate. It has reduced democracy to a three issue argument. Every election there are three things picked over and bickered about rather than a real statement of intent being given by all political parties in an attempt to win an election for ones principles. Instead it has turned into another pageant where we look and think 'hmm, that one is flashy' then get a little talent contest of 'we can run the health service'
'well we can crack down on crime'
then the bitching comes with 'no you can't'
'no you cant'
then we are given a little spiel about the hopes and aspirations of the party leader, which all sound suspiciously like platitudes.
This comes over the backdrop of 'ooooh, Mr Blair and Mr. Bush are wearing new ties to their meetings, this shows that they want to impress.' In other words politics has become a way of trivialising life in favour of a show.

The free press has died. Every newspaper is part of a larger conglomerate with its own political agenda and spin that works towards the aims of its owner rather than the people whom the press is supposed to serve. I am sure that I remember the honest reporting of the Times being worth reading, rather than a Gossip Rag about David Beckham, and although the Torygraph has always been rabidly right wing it used to make right wing points like 'hang the poor' instead of sleaze-slinging 'Blair's No. 1 man had an affair' Newspapers have become bitches.

For this I blame the television. Almost all of the creativity has been drained from programming. We are treated to season 25 of sex in the city instead of season 1 of something fresh, interesting and entertaining. Because, as with the newspapers, nobody is prepared to take a risk on something that may not be lapped up by an eager herd. Why do we need to see how breast implants are done more than once a week? There was a day, within my memory, when you would only ever see one thing on cosmetic surgery within a year, and that would be a one off documentary, not a 12 part series of freakshows. And then there is Big Brother and Jerry Springer....

They exist because we have become a world obsessed with inconsequential and pointless celebrity. Because we are forced to see so much of each of them the celebrities with a reason, such as sports stars, film stars and musicians, quickly bore us. We now demand that WE TOO can be in a fashion magazine. Whether the public love or hate this years Celebrity creating sideshow, like Pop Idle [mis-spelling intended], they will still be in the public eye. Much like an over-protesting athiest creates his own God to protest against. Merely by saying 'Oh, John from Love Island pisses me off, the way he is in the paper all the time' ligitimises his celebrity by acknowledging it. It is a trap.

A trap much like the death of true protest. Because nike, 'gothic clothing' companies and the like can commercialise a rebellion within weeks a counter-culture becomes filled instantly with the 'me too'-ers who have no concept of why they wear a red bracelet, but have been told that that is what to wear. A movement can gain no momentum becuase the inertia of all of the dead weight holds it back and makes a mockery of the original protest, rebellion or whatever. It is the true genius of commercialism that any anti-comercialism can be immediately absorbed and intergrated into a commercial.
'I don't buy it because I am told to, I buy it because its the best' Says the man drinking Pepsi.

As I say, It may have always been like this, but I am certain that I have seen an acceleration of all of the above effects within the space of time that...........the proliferation of the internet has taken place. Yes, thats right folks. I am honestly saying that the internet has played a contributing role in this. Because it is now so very easy to track, ask for, or buy peoples habits, tastes and beleifs over the internet market research has become so effective that it has now actually outgrown itself and creates tastes instead of measuring and recording them. Creativity has been stagnated because it is no longer necessary for success, and is far more difficult to find. Market research will find, I beleive, more and more that what people want is 'another one just like the first one but a little smaller, a little faster and with a brighter screen.' Similarly the political stagnation of our respective countries (I refer here to America as most here are US, and Britain, because it is my country) owes an awful lot to the computerisation of the polling processes. It is now so easy to find accurate data on each and every person's political bent that politics are being tailored to win power by promising what the opposition want to bring them around to your side, which is why you would no longer be able to tell the difference between Republican and Democrat, Conservative or Labour, if it wasn't for th personalities involved and....what colour ribbon they wear.
All is not lost just yet. The internet holds some great white hopes but they are not the point of this diatribe.
Is it just me? or does all of this ring true for others also?

 

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  posted on 26/5/2005 at 12:22 PM
Iíll readily admit to the fact that I am not a political person, and for no good reason. I believe I poses the intelligence and ability to understand as to process the information; Iím conscious enough of my beliefs to recognize when an issue is in line with them or not, and for what reason. When it comes down to it Iím a student of history, and I donít see how much has changed. Ok our ethos has evolved, we donít keep slaves anymore, and we donít believe itís ok to march to war for the SOLE reason of gain, so we dress it up with a call to freedom and the spread of democracy. Our toys have gotten cooler; we have cruise missiles instead of trebuchets. Rather then being entertained by a man locked in the stocks or convicted criminals fighting in the coliseum, now we watch what would normally be decent human beings (ok, maybe thatís a bit of a stretch) turn into snide, catty, cutthroat, attention whores an Elima-Date, or (Do I really need to put demeaning adjectives here?) Real TV. We flaunt our superiority, comfortable in our self-righteousness, in our progress, but the mob addressed today by George W. Bush is the same mob to which Julius Caesar catered. The stage has been redressed, the budget upped, the actors are bigger, but the characters, the story, hasnít changed.
 

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  posted on 26/5/2005 at 03:14 PM
Hey... I'm moving to Finland... hoping to go unnoticed for a bit longer than the rest of the world. Though Russia could pose another problem if another world war broke out...

 

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  posted on 26/5/2005 at 06:00 PM
I think it's painfully unfortunate to see the world in the condition it is today. What ever happened to the under dog? Major monopolies have taken over. The only place you can find good old fashioned home grown hang picked anything is in your backyard or local farmers market. What happened to the local soap box stand for the man with an opinion. He has been replaced by a news team reporting about what box office hit made more than the other and what is fashionable to wear for the summer.

What has become of ous. We have all been striped of our privileges. Land of the free? Hardly. Land of the fucked. To be rash about it.

 

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  posted on 27/5/2005 at 05:39 PM
We havenít been striped of anything. Letís be honest, Wal-Mart didnít put mom and pop out of business, we did, when we decided weíd rather pay $ 0.50 less for a box of rubbers then we would from a local pharmacy. Iím as guilty as anybody on this. I love the look, the feel, and the smell of an old family owned bookstore, but when itís time to pull the wallet out, I know Barnes & Noble is more likely to have what I want and cheaper. We hate what big business does to us, but we love what it does for us. Any smokers, drinkers, drug users, sex addicts, masochists, or fried food fanatics out there able to empathise with that?
The soapbox hasnít disappeared either, itís been replaced. Now we have sites like this. The truth is if you post an article here youíre likely to reach more people then standing on a street corner in 1920. Even back then no one paid attention to the guy on the soapbox, they were to distracted by the guy bandstand.

 

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  posted on 27/5/2005 at 09:58 PM
every generation says the same thing... i said it 10 years ago

 

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  posted on 28/5/2005 at 10:51 AM
But it hasn't been replaced. on sights like this it's likely to reach people of similar opinion or people who are to stubborn to accept it.

 

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  posted on 28/5/2005 at 01:08 PM
I'm reminded of this short story I read years ago. Can't remember too many details, but the basic idea was that there was this hard-core, everything sucks, death metal band with a fairly decent following. It goes into their lives together, and the groups slow realization that they are actually happy, and that things aren't as bad as their music says it is. In the final scene, in front of this huge, pissy, angsty crowd, they suddenly start playing "you are my sunshine," or something along those lines. Funny story, by any measure.

 

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  posted on 29/5/2005 at 12:00 AM
Wormwood this would have made a fine front page article, I wish you'd have submitted it there. It's fine here, but with frontpage so limited lately it would have been a welcome sight.

I do agree and see what you're saying, especially being an american and living in one of the most materialistic, panic stricken, paranoid, consumeristic, disposable everything, get rich quick, who's screwing who and is it on tv and can I get the whole season on DVD nation on EARTH. The sensationalism of "real tv" is a another facet of mass control of the population, second only to Fear. They (ie: the govt, the news companies, the drug manufacturers with their ads of 'is this you?') scare the major population shitless with terror alerts because it's a holiday weekend and terrorists hate holidays, with tales of brown men on airplanes looking at people funny, with the dangers of escalators, dolls that malfunction and eat fingers (this actually happened with cabbage patch HOW can we trust plastic toys ever again?! This coming from the generation that invented Lawn Darts), one wonder drug turning deadly after another, and when they've got us hyped up beyond control they deftly distract us with the Paris Hilton sex tape, a new episode of The Surreal Life, a full magazine devoted to whether or not the president inhaled in the '60's, how to get a bikini body in 6 days. Who the hell has the TIME to think for themselves, the TIME to protest, the TIME to care about the state of the world and what the high ups are doing when HOLY CHRIST Paris Hilton cut her hair and Christina Ricci has a new boyfriend and Brittany Spears is getting FAT!! Who needs subliminal control, all we have to do is turn on the television! Hell, *I* could be on "who wants to be a millionaire"! I'll have to watch for further instructions....

As for the acceleration of things, in one perhaps it is, on the other maybe it's not, it's jsut that things have always been this "bad" but the advent of super technological information gathering and spreading (such as the internet) and the "global community", it's just that there is more out there being reported, shown, blown out of porportion. Another tactic is to overwhelm, to shock and awe, give so much horrifying information that it overloads the listener/viewer/reader and desensitieses them much like boiling a frog, and a general malaise sets in. There's so many problems, so much woe, so much war, it's too much for me, it's too much for us, I don't care. I've felt that way before. Anyone who grabs a soapbox anymore is labeled a nut, a fanatic, a conspiracy theorist, and isolated by the public or voluntarily drugged for their anger and dissapointment.

I don't have answers for you, I wish I did, I think it's just time that the "higher ups" get taken down a peg or two, along with the journalists, not on a personal level, but as in "this is your job. Present the truth, or hit the yellow pages". No more "scandal", no more Fearmongering, no more bullshit. It'll never happen, you know, not without system collapse. And for the record, I LIKED Howard Dean's spunky little "We're behind but we'll take EM! YYYEEEAAAAHHHAAA!! " as he was facing defeat. It's nice to see a little un coreographed passion and spunk in a fucking politician once in a goddamned while. Even creepy Al Gore laying a big wet one on his wife made me smile. I would like to see life and people without telelprompters, stage managers, and scripts, because nothing feels REAL anymore. I don't think that's asking much.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2005 at 03:58 PM
Couldn't be bothered to read past the first 3 lines.

Looks good though (looks long).

8 for effort.

Your medal is in the post.

Solidarity brother!

 

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  posted on 5/6/2005 at 04:01 PM
feral: If you're interested in asserting your superiority in a childish way: I have some ear-wax which you are almost certainly funnier than, and which you may have commented on the decay of society before.

 

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  posted on 6/6/2005 at 09:47 AM
Well don't I feel special, you made it three lines in. I'm going to print that and put it in my special memories box.

 

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  posted on 21/6/2005 at 03:31 PM
the condition of the world is all relative through whatever faction is viewing it. if you are say, republican: (been listening to too much rush and Imus) you are sick of hearing about how good the prisoners at guantanamo (not sure of spelling) are being treated and if you are Democrat, you are crying out about how poorly they are being treated.
.. the condition of the world, as with everything, is relative.
(this is not including the non-partisan, moderate, etc. etc. only an example)
... or you could always toss it off to the world is going to end in 7 years at the end of the mayan calender. but that would be if you were appocolyptic.


[Edited on 6/21/2005 by BlueLinn]

 

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  posted on 22/6/2005 at 01:00 AM
I'm a bit bored with the mayan calendar bit, personally. Anyone ever thought that maybe they figured that A) it'd be pointless to go any further as they would most surely be DEAD by THEN or B) they'd get a hillarious kick out of everyone flipping out that they didn't put it any further. Think of it as a primitive Y2K syndrome.

 

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  posted on 22/6/2005 at 03:03 PM
probably A:.... and they were bored.....

 

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  posted on 24/6/2005 at 12:56 AM
see what we need in order to bring about unity of the global community is a global disaster that wipes out all electric funds and debts and most of the population so we can all just forget about the bullshit and focus on surviving. I'm thinking Art Bell's "the coming global superstorm" type disaster. Yes, I'm in the 100% fatality zone (up north) but eh, survival of the fittest and all. I'll take one for the team, as long as my cats and rats and dog are on a train to texas.

 

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  posted on 24/6/2005 at 07:32 PM
bettie, all I have to say about that is .... zombies.... lots and lots of zombies....

 

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  posted on 24/6/2005 at 10:58 PM
Speaking of zombies... Bruce Campbell is going to be at my local Books & Co. signing his new book this weekend, should I tell him about the campaign to get a hollywood boulevard star, or has that been dropped?

 

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  posted on 24/6/2005 at 11:00 PM
Oh yeah.... Tinkerbell will be there too... the actress who was the model for Disney's Peter Pan Tinkerbell.

 

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  posted on 24/6/2005 at 11:39 PM
oh lordy that totally slipped my mind! Tell him and see what he thinks, and his wish is our command. And tell him I named my little orphan kitten bruce, an that I have a trapdoor in my house like the one in evil dead, and that I watch every sam raimi movie hoping to see a cameo and that The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. was the best tv show EVER. And that he's my favorite. YES!

 

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