bettie_x
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posted on 1/9/2004 at 10:44 PM |
If you wanna get technical abb, we should ALL call ourselves "african" if
you believe the "out of africa" migration settling pattern of humans to the
separate continents. But, americans still can't say we're "brittish", as
we're mutts from all over the damned place. Same as almost everywhere else
now.
My "heritage" is strictly european, I have relatives in Wales, my great
grandmother was Belgian and met my GGpa in WWI. I have a family tree book
that goes quite a ways back on my mother's side, and "we" are scattered all
about europe as it were. My dad's side drops into oblivion about 100 years
ago with nothing more known. Chalk it up to my fine bred hillbilly roots.
So I COULD claim Brittish, or Belgian, but I stick with white mongrel if
anyone asks.
And there is a sort of "state" pride amongst americans, especially abroad.
It's a large friggin country, and extremely diverse depending on what
region you live in. ____________________
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Monolycus
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posted on 1/9/2004 at 11:12 PM |
I'm sick of fighting with the freakin' Canadians over what the hell an
"American" even is. I'm not calling myself a "United Statesian", so quit
pushin' me, you maple leaf wearing, beer-drinkin', hockey-watchin',
beaver-killin', bad music-makin', prigs. You come from the only nation
that never needed to assert its independence... You just waited until
everyone realised that nobody WANTED it! Good thing, too... I've seen your
army, and the only way they'd storm a beach is if somebody had opened an
all-you-can-eat buffet on it. Canada delende est!
And I'm sick of fighting with the freakin' Irish about personal identity.
Guess what, on the continent where I was reared we are largely a nation of
IMMIGRANTS, you beer-swillin', shamrock-wearing, potato-growin', Sinn
Fein-fightin', leprechaun-stompin', Lucky Charms-hoardin' lushes! Just
because we can't say that our family lived in the same peat bog since
neanderthals roamed the earth doesn't mean we can't also claim some kind of
heritage! If we want to wear green and drink like we're putting out an
intestinal fire one day a freakin' year, you can't stop us! And
furthermore... I didn't PERSONALLY break treaties with the native
Americans... THEY WERE MY ANCESTORS! And no, just because I'm not a
thorough-inbred doesn't mean I have to write them all off, either! I've
got some news for you, so slide back to whichever pub you get your mail
delivered to and read this: You didn't invent the potato, spiking your
coffee or the colour green... as a matter of fact, the only thing you can
proudly take the blame for is freakin' Riverdance!
Out.
~M. ____________________
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Abbadon
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posted on 2/9/2004 at 02:38 AM |
Bettie: I am terribly sorry to hear about your Belgian ancestory. I hope it
gets better soon. As coutries were not yet named when we migrated from
Africa I think your point is insubstanciated. The Gibraltans call thjem
selves British, and still did after it was lost till it was recaptured
again. Its just the Americans have got a little to used to their 'self
governing'.
BB. ____________________
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bettie_x
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posted on 2/9/2004 at 10:23 AM |
Yeah yeah yeah, my poor beligian ancestry. My husband laughs and calls it
bastard french. When my GGma developed alzheimers she stopped speaking
english alltogether and dropped into french for most of the rest of her
life. They do have killer waffles, tho.
I don't think that just because the land didn't have a name that WE now
know of when we migrated out of it doesn't make it insubstantial. It just
makes it a priorly no-named "homeland". That is, if you wanna stretch it
that far, but personally I could really care less. I'm an american, I was
born here, which makes me native, and I'll probably die here (unless I'm
captured and executed as an international spy). I can deal with that.
And mono, none of us living personally broke treatise with the native
americans (unless the govt is still going at it with them? I'll have to
look into that), or at least we civillians haven't. The worst I've done is
dump money into the native casinos and buy cigarettes tax free. Lock me
up!
And mono, my brother in law is with you on the canada thing. He thinks we
would be doing them a favor by invading them. ____________________
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Abbadon
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posted on 2/9/2004 at 02:40 PM |
| Mayonnaise with chips, thats just not natural! ____________________
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W0rmW00d
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posted on 2/9/2004 at 05:59 PM |
monoclycus, you say 'beer drinking' as if its a bad thing. thats not right,
not right at all.
all of the joke countries have been mentioned in a derogatory fashion now.
or at least all of the joke countries from the cultures that i have any
real knowledge of. in britain the irish take the brunt of the jokes. in
america it seems to be the canadians, lovely flannel-shirt wearing
lumberjack style people though they are. (i write this from my nuclear
bunker deep underground for fear of reprisal) and in northern europe it is
the belgians.
fancy.
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Monolycus
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posted on 2/9/2004 at 10:57 PM |
W0rmW00d: "monoclycus, you say 'beer drinking' as if its a bad thing."
Yeah, well that was a space filler. I'm a beer-swilling swine myself.
"all of the joke countries have been mentioned in a derogatory fashion
now."
Not even close. In Korea, the bashing is directed towards, and
reciprocated by, the Japanese (You think Americans are racist...?
Amateurs, the lot!). Now you would think that a common enemy would give a
people a lot of fodder for tasteless jokes, and that was where the
Japanophobia originally stemmed from, but if this is the case, why don't
South Koreans make fun of North Koreans? The answer, dear friend, is that
they don't think things through that far. As far as they are concerned
there was no Korean War, you can't find the DMZ on any map, and South
Koreans speak of landmarks in the north as if you could drive on over any
time you wanted to (but nobody wants to).
France has taken the gold again in the category of classic fallback joke
countries of the world (which is odd... everyone I have met from France has
had their heads really together), I could write a page and a half of
bashing the Czechs and the Serbs, and I don't even come close to believing
that there is such a place as "Norway" (It was invented by a Swedish
cartographer to boost tourism. Drop the "r" in "Norway" and you'll see
what I mean). The only reason that I don't trash Lichtenstein while I am
at it is that the population (both of them) isn't large enough to take a
satisfactory degree of offense.
"in britain the irish take the brunt of the jokes."
That's because the rest of the world hasn't met enough of them to jump on
the bandwagon.
"in america it seems to be the canadians"
As well it should be. Or hasn't Celine Dion made it past your borders
yet...?
"in northern europe it is the belgians."
There I can't help so much. Apart from having eaten a bad waffle as a
youth, I have never had any reason to take offense with the Belgians.
They're quiet, well-groomed and make good pets... waitaminnit. Is this the
same Belgium that caved in like a deflated Twinkie when Rumsfeld said he
wouldn't recognise their world court...? Are these the same spineless
bastards that were so attached to their US kickbacks that they "elected"
not to hold the present US presidential administration accountable for
their actions...? Are these the same morally bankrupt US lapdogs we are
discussing...? Nah, I've got nothing against them.
~M.
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bettie_x
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posted on 2/9/2004 at 11:07 PM |
Wormy I'd love to hear belgian stereotypes, I swear I've never heard them
before and I'm always up for new ones (other than what mono had to offer !
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And is there such a thing as a bad waffle? Oh wait, yes, I made a batch of
them last year. My ancestry has betrayed me. I renounce it.
As for canadians, our "neighbor to the north", we tease them because
well....they're canadians. Come on. Lets not forget Stryper and Averil
Lavigne, and the fact that the french speaking part of canada has been
wanting to seccede from the rest of canada for decades but just really
hasn't got around to it yet. To them we're gun crazy psychotic chemically
imbalanced basketcases, to us they're...well, canadians. Nuff said. ____________________
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bettie_x
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posted on 2/9/2004 at 11:08 PM |
| OH and abby, my gramma at mayo with APPLES. THAT is unnatural. ____________________
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Abbadon
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posted on 3/9/2004 at 04:00 AM |
Hey Mono, I don't think the people you met were French, they were probably
lying to you!
On a completely unrelated topic: I was just watching the news and some
pro-Bush politician came on saying that Cary was going to let the UN decide
when the Americans could use force if he was elected. This was met with
boos from the audience. God forbid the Americans should abide by the same
rules that keeps the rest of the world in relative peace. Is it me or...
What the fuck? We cover their back and give them all the benefits of any
other UN country and they go and shit on us.
BB. ____________________
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callei
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posted on 3/9/2004 at 06:13 AM |
Bettie: The Gov't is still breaking agreements/treaties/the law with
"Native Americans". And yeah, Im not just talking about the ones that have
been here for more than 500 years.
I think a lot of "Americans" dont notice thier state identity thing til
they travel out of the US. And frankly, when they travel in groups, they/we
are worse that Japanese tourists with Nikon sponsorship.
Abby: American is a big place. Parts of it have been trying to NOT be part
of it for years. Parts of it have the rights to leave the Union any time
they want. Parts of it look down on other parts of it. Parts of it speak
French or Spanish as thier native languages. In some places, we have had
Japanese or Chinese settlements that are older than the state is.
My stepmom (Irish born and bred and just "off the boat" for about a year
now) was amazed by the concepts of China town and Little Korea as I grew up
knowing them. And dont get me started (please!) on the ratio of native
Eglish speakers to native non-English speakers. Like Wales teachs classes
in two languages, so does America. Only here, those two languages change by
school, Spanish, German, Korean, Japanese, Chinese (at least three dialects
are alive, well, and posted on street signs), a few pigins, and about 100
"native" languages. Dont forget, we have at least 8 seperate conquered
nations inside our borders.
We have movements every now and then to have an Official Language. Spanish
almost won in California. English was thrid on the the list.
Mono: wouldnt it be neat to meet that couple from Litchenstein and see what
kind of racial/national jokes THEY know?
This will make some of you laugh, but when i travel out of America, I
perfer to be thought of as French (and yes my French is that good, but my
German is heavily accented with French too and this isnt good) because then
people offer me drinks and ask my opinion about food. They dont start
screaming at me about the evil things that America has done or beat me up
and rob me. I would rather be thought of as a fool than as evil incarnate. ____________________
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feralucce
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posted on 3/9/2004 at 07:15 AM |
| what is interesting... when I am abroad... my accent does not make them
automatically assume american... and some have pegged me as accadian...LOL ____________________
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bettie_x
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posted on 3/9/2004 at 10:18 AM |
| C: thanks for the info, I figured that the govt was still at it with them,
but i didn't know. I personally am waiting for the day that the
Muckelshoots save enough money from the massive casinos to buy back auburn.
Even if the tribesman I talked to was pulling my leg, I think it'd be a
fantastic idea. ____________________
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W0rmW00d
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posted on 4/9/2004 at 08:03 AM |
the belgian stereotype is a pasty man with a big moustache. think asterix,
or some of the tintin characters. cross this with german. they eat chips
with mayo and copious mussels. and wild boar sausages, and mustard mash.
and are boring. really really boring.
for belgian jokes substitute any of your blonde or canadian jokes e.g. how
do you sink a belgian submarine? knock on the door. and how do you drown a
belgian? put a scratch and sniff counter in a swimming pool. etc, im sure
you know more. in fact as good clean harmless racism, why dont we all take
our favourite jokes and substitute a belgian for the butt of the joke. in
this way we can enjoy hours of pointless tedium. if you are interested in
other methods of pointless tedium, please read my other posts, or i can
write an article by request. im an expert at it. if you need proof reread
ths post. right to the end. and follow all instructions given on it. ____________________
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feralucce
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posted on 4/9/2004 at 01:56 PM |
| Callei: I have noticed one thing... those places that HAVE THE RIGHT to not
belong... when they try to excercise it...the US government has forbidden
discussion... the southern part of LA tried about 20 years ago... and it
was SQUASHED... HARD... ____________________
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bettie_x
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posted on 4/9/2004 at 09:23 PM |
woody: eh, booooring. Being blonde I already know them already.
And as for the sausages/mussels bit, that's disgusting *barf*
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bettie_x
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posted on 4/9/2004 at 09:29 PM |
| Oh, and abbadon, don't think you were the only one who felt like flipping
their lid when that bullshit about not letting the UN decide when we use
force and the booing came out. HELOOOOO dipshits, isn't that what the UN
is FOR?! ____________________
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Abbadon
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posted on 5/9/2004 at 03:48 AM |
Why do Beligans have holes cut in the bottom of their cars?
So they can say sorry to the people they run over.
Why do Beglains have round gardens?
So their dogs can't pee in the corner.
How do you drown 20 Belgians?
Ask them to pish start a submarine.
How many Beglians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
101: one to hold the bulb and 100 to turn the house round and round.
Did you hear about the Beglian who got a pair of water skis for his
birthday?
He spent the rest of his life looking for a down hill lake.
Did you hear about the Beglian who broke his ankle falling into the
sink?
He was trying to tap dance.
Did you hear about the Beglian who died falling off the roof of a pub?
Someone told him the drinks were on the house.
How you get 1000 Pikachus on a bus?
Pokemon.
Alright then, that last one didn't mention the word Belgians, but I've been
researching Pikachu's geneology and apparently his great grandmother on his
fathers side was from Brussels.
BB.
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W0rmW00d
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posted on 18/9/2004 at 05:41 PM |
I knew that pokemon had to be from one of them backward nations, like
belgium, or worse still (whisper it) england. i mean, just look at the way
they communicate, no real coherent language and they can just about say
their names. english education may be the best in the world, but the
english educated must be some of the worst.
up yours uk independance party, england sucks rancid dogs' just like
everyone else.
ummm. i forgot which parts of that was satirical. ____________________
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