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Author: Subject: Share the history!

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 12:02 AM
I'm a real history buff. I'll be honest that it is a pretty new interest for me since I paid no attention during school to the topic. I'm always interested to learn history. From ancient cultures to American history. All of it is interesting.

So considering the wide range of people here on the site I thought I would start this little thread and see what comes of it.

So share something interesting you have learned about history that may not be common knowledge. Or even if it is common knowledge to some, some of us may have never come across it.

For instance.. here is mine:

Did you know the Vikings had an interesting way of testing for adultery. If a man suspected his wife of cheating on him they would braid her hair and tie her to a tree. The braids of her hair would be wrapped around to stick out along the tree on either side of her head. He would then throw an axe at her. If he missed and hit the braid then she was innocent. If he hit her and killed her then she was guilty. It was considered the will of the Gods if she died due to her deception.

 

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 01:28 AM
Well that's certainly better than the ways people used to test for witches (for example tieing women to rocks, throwing them into the lake, and if they DROWNED they were said to be innocent).

I'm personally fascinated by ancient Egypt so I'll tell yoo the story of Thutmose (Tahuti-Mes which literally means "begotten of Thoth"). Thutmose was homeless and one night he decided to sleep between the paws of The Sphinx (which was already more than a thousand years old and crumbling away). In his dream, the Sphinx told him "restore mee and yoo shall be king!" So from that moment on, Thutmose spent every moment of his waking life reapair and convincing others to repair The Sphinx. When it was done he so united the people that he won the popularity and was chosen to be the new Pharoh. This was the beginning of the Middle Kingdom period which was the frist Egyptian rennasaince.

 

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 04:13 AM
I'm sick and tired of all the Vlad Tepes/Dracula myth, so I'll tell you the guy's story from the Romanian point of view. Although he had imposed draconic laws(which actually worked, making the country an extremely safe place), he was a just, righteous leader who did wonders in defending the country from the Turks. Impaling was widely used in all Eastern Europe, and the procedure was nowhere near as horrible as presented by our Austro-Hungarian neighbours(who had a tooth against Vlad Tepes anyway). Oh, and it was his father who got called Dracula (actually, Dracul - the devil, in Romanian, to be more exact), although I don't remember exactly how he got it...

 

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 11:20 AM
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I'm personally fascinated by ancient Egypt so I'll tell yoo the story of Thutmose (Tahuti-Mes which literally means "begotten of Thoth").


That is really interesting information! Thanks for sharing.

I did some research on Egyptian names not long ago and I found it very interesting that they changed their names after major life altering events or great accomplishments. Sometimes they would change it two or three times. And if someone did something bad their name would be changed for them to something negative. That must have made it hard for historians to piece things together.

I also found it interesting that they would wear small cones of scented oil on their heads and as it melted into their hair it would perfum them.

 

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 01:50 PM
Well the name was considered one of a person's magical powers by the ancient Egyptians. If yoo read any of the magical papyrii (for example the "Book of the Dead") yoo will find that know a spirit's name was to have some kind of power over it (for example see the myth of Isis and the Sun God's true name). The Pharoh was no exception as s/he WAS a diety of the Egyptian pantheon and like the others dieties, had several names to describe different aspects of the same spirit.

It was believeed that changing a name was to change a person's power, and likewise, adding a name was adding a power. In the same way, DESTROYING a name was to destroy a power, thus when Akhenaten died the entire priesthood relentlessly erased his name everywhere they could find it. The name was also considere a part of the soul that lived on after death and if the priests had managed to completely erradicate Akhenaten's name in a sense his immortality would actually be stunted!

 

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 04:15 PM
Everybody knows that before the missionaries came to Hawaii, there were far more luau's than afterwards.

What nobody usually mentions is the morning after. If the Luau was successful, of course the young kids would wake up early and play outside with all of the visiting children. If they were still getting along in the morning, all was good. The old folks would be tired and maybe sleep a little late. That meant they stayed up late "Talking Story" and hanging out. Staying up late means a successful party. The teenagers were expected to wake up naked in the bushes - in a pile of arms, legs, breasts and cum. All of them. Same pile.

One of the very first things the missionaries did when they learned the language was guilt the Hawaiians into pretending this never ever happened.

 

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 07:22 PM
Another piece of Viking History.

If a man was stabbed in the stomach they had a way of testing to see if the stomach had been punctured. They would make a very strong smelling brooth and have him drink it. Then someone would smell his stomach and if they could smell the brooth through the wound then he was definately going to die from the wound. If they didn't then he was probably going to die from the infection anyways.

 

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  posted on 21/5/2004 at 07:25 PM
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The teenagers were expected to wake up naked in the bushes - in a pile of arms, legs, breasts and cum. All of them. Same pile.


Ahhh.. the good old days.

 

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  posted on 22/5/2004 at 05:33 AM
if you have seen the movie troy u will know what this is on about, its juts a bit of back ground on the whole war got started.

its all aphrodite's fault

when the Trojan prince paris was asked to judge which of three olympian goddesses was the most beautiful, he chose aphrodite over Hera and Athena. the latter two had hoped to bribe him with power and victory in battle, but aphrodite offered the love of the most beautiful woman in the world.

this was helen of Sparta, who became infamous as helen of troy when paris subsequently eloped with her. in the ensuing trojan war, hera and athena were implacable enemies of troy while aphrodite was loyal to paris and the trojans.

some more information, but this account is diffrent from the movie...

aphrodite saves paris when he is about to be killed in single combat by menelaus. the goddess wraps him in a mist and spirits him away, setting him down in his own bedroom in troy. she then appears to helen in the guise of an elderly handmaiden and tells her that paris is waiting for her.

so yea, juts a bit of background for you...... some ppl say greek myths are not proper history, just stories, but if that true, then when is the fun?




 

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  posted on 22/5/2004 at 09:35 PM
Here's some brief history about where I live. The word "Kentucky" means "Bloody Ground." All of the native american tribes from this area referred to it as kentuck(y) because it was all sacred hunting a burial ground. The whole place was pretty much crawling with death.
A few hundred years after bloody massacres when settlers decided to push native americans off their land in kentucky, the civil war happened. This whole area was battle fields and and killing ground. West Point is home to Fort Duffield, and a little town next to that is Muldraugh, where there was the Mauldraugh Hill Massacre. About 50 men were killed there. After Muldraugh, you have Fort Knox, where it's not uncommon for soliders to randomly go insane and kill themselves, or their families, or themselves and their families. This has happened 3 times that I know of in the 16 years I've lived on/near the fort. A couple years before I was born a soldier lost it and went on a killing spree. It was all covered up, but my dad was stationed there at the time and knew about it.
After Fort Knox, there is Radcliff and Elizabeth town. Not much went on in this area, though there is an old building in E-town with a civil war cannon ball sticking out of the side of it and in Radcliff, there is a housing area built over actual native american burial mounds. Weird stuff goes on in that neighborhood, a few of the houses have actually been exocised because of things that have gone on. A couple miles outside of E-town is Rineyville and a few other farming communities. Most of the fields are old civil war battlegrounds. Some people think they're haunted. People who live out there say you can hear the sounds of fighting and shooting guns at night. (but this isn't about ghost stories, so we won't get into it).
Oh, at Fort Campbell (another civil war fort) Kentucky had it's own little version of "the texas chainsaw massacre." Some guy went after some other guy and his family after a drug deal went bad. The guys dad was hacked up pretty bad, but somehow he survived. the wanna-be leatherface was found and arrested, as far as I know.
But, anyways. The whole point is, Kentucky started out as a placed labeled for it's blood and death and it's always had a great deal of blood and death (though many MANY other places have their similar stories) it's just interesting for me because i live in one of the specific places where stuff went on.
I also intent to find out why a large section of kentucky is referred to as Transylvania. It might just be a name, or there might be some interesting history behind that. When I get the chance I'll share that too.

 

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  posted on 23/5/2004 at 07:39 AM
I am full blooded Romani, gypsy... and my people are... well not welcome most places. In america it is not nearly as obvious as it is in europe. As a matter of fact, when my friends and I were speaking to someone from bulgaria, I mentioned this halfway through the conversation... she literally ignored me from then on... it was fascinating.

While we are not welcome... no one dares to turn us out. There was a town in germany that my kumpania (similar to a clan) was banned from... turned out because the mayor's daughter thought that the barro's (barro is our leader... loosely translates to the big man if a woman is hte eldest then she is the barrino)son was too pretty for just looking. Anyway, the kumpania was run out of the small town.

The next evening, one of our people snuck back and poisoned the well with a powerful sleep agent...(many in nature all over europe, ask stille). Then they waited for another day. In the night, they came, and removed every man woman and child from thier home, and placed them by the well... then methodically disassembled the homes of this small town and scattered it to the four winds, taking a majority of it all with them.

Revenge was harsh... and just...

 

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