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Author: Subject: Cities that Suck

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  posted on 30/4/2004 at 01:09 PM
Okay so I as many of yoo may know, I am damned once again to Sodom and Gomorrah (Minneapolis/St.Paul). And I hate it here. For one thing it's too goddamn cold. To give yoo some idea of just how cold it is, I've been to friggin NORWAY in the winter and it's colder in the Twin Cities than it is in Oslo!

It is also a horrible place to live if yoo don't own a huge gas-guzzling SUV (oi). The people here are very much confined to little boxes of midwestern fundamentalism. And there is little to speak of worthwhile going on in any kind of entertainment sense from a strictly rivethead perspective.

However, the trouble is, I can think of a ZILLION cities I hate more than this one (I don't give a shit what yoo say, they're one city). For starters, I hate LA. Now here's a city where there is actually always something going on no matter what yor into and somehow they manage to screw it up. The first major problem is that it's so big and traffic is so shitty that it takes hours to get anywhere from anywhere else. The largest problem is that it seems to mee that the population of LA might very well be more superficial than any other city I've ever been too. It doesn't help that yoo can see the filth yor breathing either.



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  posted on 30/4/2004 at 02:35 PM
Porterville. I spent a week there once. Dolo and I ended up driving to Bakersfield to have fun. What does that tell you? It's ungodly hot and dry, so much so that I lost count of the nosebleeds I had. And the people are ugly. Really.


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  posted on 30/4/2004 at 07:56 PM

I think that's all I need to say


So Sayeth Me


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  posted on 30/4/2004 at 08:52 PM
As soon as I get the chance, I'm leaving LA. Screw the polluted water and air, the damned people and traffic. Oh, the TRAFFIC. Let's drive down the 405 freeway on a friday afternoon...fun fun. Notice the scores of cars that slow down to look at some poor bastard in a car accident. Bastards. Then there's the heat. It's too damn hot all year round. What the hell? 100 degrees? 102 degrees? How about some rain for a change?! Plant life is dying! And boy oh boy, isn't it fun to live in a city (Whittier) that lays on a fault line. Disrupts my sleep all the fucking time. Ack.




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  posted on 30/4/2004 at 10:07 PM
I almost lived in St. Cloud, MN...very similar to the twin cities of frozen hell you speak of Squid. It was June and night was as cold as winter in other parts of the country. I went so far as to apply for jobs, and get hired, but decided to head out of there after all before I actually took the job and stayed there. I viewed it as a long vacation, and a good decision to not live there.


"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before." ~Mae West



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  posted on 30/4/2004 at 11:51 PM
Sometimes I agree with Devin about Seattle sucking but honestly most times I don't. The dating scene here sucks. The poly scene here sucks and the bondage scene here is ok if your into just getting wacked on a lot (which I am so it is ok but I know others don't like it).

But to me, Seattle is a pot of gold. Devin has never been forced to live years 1 1/2 hours of a drive from Oklahoma City in a small town that you miss if you blink. It was made up of a water tower, a hotel, a truck stop and a gas station. The school was K through 12 and the graduating class was 10 people at most. I went to the gas station one day wearing all black and was asked if I was going to a custom party. And I wasn't even dressed freaky!! Their idea of being modern was converting a small church after building a larger one into a tanning parler that nobody really went to. It is fucking OKLAHOMA. It is 104 and humid out! Why the fuck would you want to go to a tanning bed??

I helped my mother raise money by planting a HUGE garden on a piece of her 40 acres and selling tomatoes on the side of the road.

No clubs, no photography, no people. IT SUCKED.

Even if you went to OKC the only gothic club was at a rave club on thursday nights located in the gay district. A great night out was poetry night at a coffee house followed by dancing at the all age club on goth night. The only thing worth it all was going to the gay bars and watching men in their titie whities wiggle their asses on tiny stages by the bar and enjoying the fantastic drag show on weekends at the rave club which is the most amazing drag show with the best turn out I have EVER seen in any other city or state.

So yeah. Seattle has it's suck moments but it sure the hell beats where I came from!


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  posted on 1/5/2004 at 01:30 AM
Next on my list: Phoenix.

I really truly love the desert but, goddamn, Pheonix is one major shithole. First let mee get out of the way, I like it that every street either runs north and south or east and west (unlike many cities that look like someone scribbled over the map in part or in full) but for fuck's sake how difficult is it really to fill-in that space with something besides ghetto?

Every guy I met there who wasn't a drag-queen (as we did go to a gay club one night, and it looked very much as though this was the only place in town a guy could be in drag without getting shot) was a gun-crazed alcoholic!



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  posted on 1/5/2004 at 04:20 AM
*lurker speaks again on what ahould be a safe topic* Albany, OH. Not a city, mind you, but one of those tiny tiny places you see on the highway with one street, a crappy pizza place, 2 liquor stores, a hardware store, a dairy queen and a gas station. Little midwestern tiwn you PROMISE yourself you'll never live in...*winces* yeah, well, i live there. No culture, small minds, and 2 streets of nice little houses home to nice little families and further out tons of farms *shudders* Not a city, but the lack of one, with nowhere to go, nothing to do, and you wouldnt want to even if there was anything. thank god for athens 12 miles down the highway ^.^


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  posted on 1/5/2004 at 05:57 AM
Jesi: I would have to say Los Angeles, myself. I'll give props to Hollywood, but going through LA is so tedious. You have traffic up the ass, crime is high in certain neighborhoods, and it always gives you the vibes when you are there. If people demand me to take them to LA, they can forget it. If they're lucky, I'll print them directions from yahoo.com or something.

Another icky city would have to be Fajardo, Puerto Rico. The inhabitants obviously have little to no care about how they take care of their stuff. I understand using up resources, but not littering everywhere *ugh*. Even I don't litter. I would say the same for San Juan if it didn't have such a nice mall.



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  posted on 1/5/2004 at 09:28 AM
Rayce: here in the great city of Winston-Salem i don't think we even have a goth scene...i mean i occassionally see the Hippy-goths and/or Mall rat goths at Hot Topic but that's about it.

reading about all your cities kind of makes Winston not sound so bad....it's boring (the only thing to do, all the time, is get high) but we get good weather...and when it snows, no matter how much or how little it snows school will be out. It's never been really freezing down here and in the summer it's hot, but not nearly as hot as LA. but, like i said it's boring there's nothing to do at all and nothing ever happens here.

this is what happens on a good friday night: "dude lets go hang out at a Wal-mart parking lot" or you can subtitute Wal-mart for Taco Bell


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  posted on 1/5/2004 at 11:20 AM
Rayce: You are making me realize that my town doesn't suck as much as it does (though I still fucking hate it to all hell). We are bigger than we were when I was younger, but the minds are pretty much still the same. We have the little punk and mall goth kids at school, but they all suck. Drive five minutes here and you'll find a church. I live out of the city limits even, I live in the county. I live on a dirt road that everyone hates with a passion across from a pasture of skinny cows. There are rumors of lesbians at my school, but I've only met one. There are a few bi girls, but they're all closeted or not interested. I am finding difficulty in explaining how horrible this town is because it is one of those "You have to see it to understand" how horrible it is, kind of towns. Like Seattle, I didn't know how yick it really was until I went there. Criminy, big city, small minds. Yucky shmenged all over feeling once you set foot out in it.


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  posted on 2/5/2004 at 04:17 AM
Oh yeah, I hate Dublin. I HATE Dublin. For everyone planning on visiting Ireland, I strongly reccomend spending as little time in Dublin as possible (the rest of the country is beautiful). My first complaint is the fact that everyone burns bricks of peat in their fireplaces (nowhere in the city is there decent heat or insulation) making the ENTIRE CITY smell like that rotten bog filth!

I am generally quite intolerant when it comes to drunks in my presence and everywhere yoo go in Dublin people are staggering! Why is alcoholism so widespread there? Well there's really nothing else to do there. It's hang out at church or the pub (given the choice, even I would chose the pub).

Oh yes, and lets not forget the fact that among every single pub in the city, there are a grand total of TEN Irish songs that get played. Some poeple like Irish music. I am not one of those people. But if I did I can only assume inebriation is the only way I'd be immune to the monotony of the same ten fucking songs EVERYWHERE!

Oh, and I completely forgot what I hate more than anything else there: Everything is grey. GREY! The whole city is grey along with anything within city limits! Something about the fog/smog combination makes it so that even day-glow hunter orange looks like a murky ash sort of hue.

[Edited on 5/2/2004 by IamSquid]



i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to />
die so i could watch, and then me die.



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  posted on 2/5/2004 at 07:32 AM
how about Holister, earth quake capital of the world (or maybe just the americas, i cant remember). it has a movie theatre that has one screen. and seats about 70 people. no really. and it has a highschool, the one highschool for the whole county. it is surrounded by garlic farms (mmmm toxic waste). there are some 10 buildings that count as "downtown" and even truckers dont stop there.
The best thing about it is that it is close to tres pennos (i think i spelled the right, three pine trees?) national forrest. not that you can get there from holister, but you can see it from holister, at least when the manure isnt causing smog.


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  posted on 2/5/2004 at 09:58 AM
I don't know what it is about the Missippi river but every city along it is a complete shithole.

I know this will be an unpopular opinion here but I'm sorry, I'm not a big fan of New Orleans. I don't believe I have ever been to a filthier city in my life. The streets look as though someone just painted yellow stipes over the garbage. And it stinks! No, I mean it, it smells really really bad!

Mark Twain described it as "decadent." I strongly disagree with his choice of this wrd as it's far too poetic for the "Big Easy" (for which it's probably dubbed because of all the morbidly-obese whores that roam the streets). Ur is decadent. Delphi is decadent. Abydos is decadent. New Orleans is rotten!

I must admit I am slightly biased. Being a sober vegetarian in a city where every activity involves liquor and even the "beans and rice" has bacon in it (I'm not kidding, the only resteraunt I could eat at was a Chinese place) does leave little fo mee to enjoy but come the fuck on here, people, diversify at least enough for the designated drivers.

And my god, why is everyone there so fat? And what's up with all the white people throwing the N word in every other sentance? I've met frendlier people in Paris!

Of course it's not entirely the fault of the NewOrelans populace. At least 70% of the filth is from visiting frat boys or washed downstream from Sodom and Gomorrah or Memphis or St.Louis.

Did I say St.Louis? How could I foget St.Louis, Misery. I have a personal problem with this place as I lived there for ten years. An old co-worker summed the whole city up with this one statement: "I have never seen so many mullets in one urban area in my life." The whole place is stuck in the 80s. I'm not talking about the cool, Synthpop, 80s. I'm talking about the shitty Reagan-era 80s where the guys all seem to resemble Don Johnson in a stained wifebeater and the women all have the big teased-out hair. It's like every hillbilly in the Ozarks pushed their trailers together until it was a major metropolitan area.

And that's a friggen Garden of Eden compared to EAST St.Louis!

[Edited on 5/2/2004 by IamSquid]



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die so i could watch, and then me die.



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  posted on 2/5/2004 at 12:45 PM
Oakland, CA

I went to visit the rathole last summer...well, actually I went to visit Berkeley. How I ended up in Oakland is beyond me.

So I was on a bus going somewhere. I look out of the left window to find empty, dirty streets. I thought they were completely abandoned until I saw a pair of elderly women trying to get to their homes before nightfall, which was soon. Heh..poor women. Looked like they were trying to run.

Street after street it was the same shit. More filthy streets. Trash doubled as tumbleweeds. Streetlights were out. Hardly any light anywhere. The window was half way down and I could taste the nastiness of the air. A different nasty than LA air, but still the same shit. I swore I had seen some of those streets in a movie before. Then I was able to see clusters of people hanging out on street corners, eyeing people that walked by. Reminded me of Compton somehow ( another shitty city). Rival gangs patrolling the streets, ready to rumble to with any bastard that didn't strike their fancy. Fuck, I wouldnt wanna be roaming Oakland at night. During the day it was the same thing anyway, only I could see the dirty air I was breathing in a little bit better.

Others who have visited Oakland said it wasn't that bad. HA! They don't know...

Oh..and the cops there are ASSHOLES.

[Edited on 2/5/2004 by Jesi]




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