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Author: Subject: ethics, luck, or karma, what would you do?

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  posted on 13/1/2004 at 12:15 PM
Passing through life one is set upon by questions of morality and ethics and how they would react in any given situation, and then, when given the chance. How the do, in actuallity act in these situations.

The following are two examples, the first happened to me and it was my decision and the second happened to a friend a while back and was their decision.

When you are done reading say what you would have liked to do given the situation, and what you would have actually done.

the first:
I went into a store to purchase some clothes. There was a wonderful cheap sale going on where everything that was 30 dollars is now 7 dollars or less. I purchase 4 items, while the cashier was ringing me out she was distracted by another employee. I thought nothing of it, checked out and went home. However, when I got home and reviewed the reciet and the Items, I had 4 items but there were only 3 that appeared on the reciet. Reviewing it thoughroughly I found she did not charge me for one of the items.
What would you have done?

I went back accross town and showed them the mistake and paid for the item that they forgot to charge. My reasoning was, Even if you do not notice an error at the time, if later on you find that you have walked out of a store with an un-paid for Item and not done anything about it, it is stealing.

Second example:
A friend of mine found a wallet in the bank parking lot. The contents of the wallet were a bank card, social security card, ID, and 200 dollars in cash. Now my friend was behind on bills and had rent due the next week. however even though he himself had things that needed to be paid for and it seemed as though luck had finally fallen on him. He returned the wallet to the Bank so that they could return the wallet to the person instead of keeping the money for himself...

Now, What would you have done?

(and no, this is not some "what would jesus do" BS, it is a question on the ethics of your character, how you would have reacted given the situation and would you have cared about the other person over yourself type question... I myself am agnostic and my decision was based upon how I would like to be stolen from not in how an all powerful diety would look upon my actions... )(that was merely to clarify)

 

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  posted on 13/1/2004 at 12:29 PM
As sappy as it sounds, I'd do the same thing, which is pay for the unpaid merch and return the wallet. I've got a HORRIBLE conscience (or a really good one, whichever way you want to think of it) I've actually HAD the first situation happen, and done just that, gone back and paid. Now with the returning of the wallet, you have to be careful nowadays. You'd think people would be grateful to have their personables and such just handed over without theft or damage, but at my husband's old work the custom among people was "if you find it, just anonymously drop it in the lost and found" because the few poor suckers who returned it TO the person were then accused of stealing money IN the wallet (which they didn't). It's pure and simple greedy psycho assholes trying to get even more out of their fortune of having their wallet returned. THAT is what disgusts me, is people who not only would NOT do 'the right thing' in the previous two situations, but who would also TAKE ADVANTAGE of people who do the curteous thing.

Barf.

 

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  posted on 13/1/2004 at 01:54 PM
verry true bettie. At archon I had missplaced my wallet but somebody dropped it in the lost and found and I was just so relieved to have it back without anything gone. I could definately not try and get back more than what was rightfully mine, I would just want back the important things such as my social security card and my ID.
And yes, people with ethics are little recognized and un-appreciated. Several people have said that if you went back and paid for the merchandice it would also look as though you took it out in the first place just to bring it back and look good. But that, in itself is self defeating. Why put on a facade of honesty if all they had was dishonorable intentions to begin with.

 

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  posted on 14/1/2004 at 01:49 AM
Although it would be tempting to keep the stuff, my conscience, like Bettie's, would nag me until I did something to atone for it.

Anyway, something similar to the first situation happened to me. I found a nice pair of sandals for $20, but, when I went to buy them, they only rang up as $2. I pointed that out to the cashier, and she scanned it again, and it came up, again, as $2, so she told me that she wasn't going to make me pay mroe than $2 for it.

Both my conscience and my wallet were satisfied, and I got a bitchin' pair of sandals from the deal.

 

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  posted on 14/1/2004 at 08:52 AM
It's really strange. Although in print I would be tempted to keep the stuff, it never really occurs to me when I find something valuable on the street. I was at the grocery store one day and the bag boy dropped his watch among the food. I figured it was valuable since he had taken very good care of it, so I brought it back right then (I tried not to miss his shift). LAter he told me that it was his grandfather's watch and was worth quite a bit of money. Invariably when I see someone drop money or a wallet or whater I give it to them as quickly as possible.

Because of this, however, I have been looked upon with disdain and called a thief to my face (I have no clue what sense that makes). Since I also give people who I see as my friends leave to use whatever they need of mine, I have had countless things stolen or destroyed. *sigh* I never learn

 

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  posted on 15/1/2004 at 07:34 AM
:nods: Yeah, Allot of times even when you do the honest thing, as bettie said, the good guy is often taken advantage of and made to feel cruddy that they do the right thing on occasion.

However, on a brighter note. at least we know where our Karma is heading, and the damned fuckwits who accuse you of stealing when you are returning something they so blatently missplaced or lost,, can well, just go fuck themselves. It all comes around in the end.

 

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